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NCAA - slowly ruining football (rules changes - merged)

Jaxbuck
Zurp said:
1. I thought there was a rule about pants length. I mean, they made Zeke cover up his 8-pack.
2. When did that penalty happen? I don't remember it.
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2016 or 2018 It just came out of nowhere after a big play for us and Urban was going nuts-t.v. didn't ever figure it out but you could see the ref telling Urban what he called.
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LB Payton Pierce (All B1G, National Champion)

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Sonny Styles doesn’t hold back on who he thinks is going to be a star for Ohio State’s defense​

The NFL Scouting Combine is taking place this week and the players mentioned are all in Indianapolis. Styles stood at the podium on Wednesday morning and he was asked who he believes is the next star defender in Columbus.

“I feel like Payton Pierce is gonna be the next guy up for us at linebacker,” Styles stated. “He’s a dawg, man. He’s physical, he’s smart, he plays fast, he plays hard. He’s got great instincts, he understands the defense, he communicates well.”

He’s just a baller. I think he’s gonna have a big year for us next year. He’s ready to take that next step and be that guy that we can rely on.”

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B1G (Official Thread)

pnuts34
BuckeyeNation27 said:
Jeez....you wanna throw in a billion dollars and unlimited super models to bang as other reasons to not do it?

I mean.....you're the one who said McCarthy doesn't belong on this list, and then you ranked him higher than they did.
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Because my Buckeye bias didn't want him on the list tbh :lol:
But taking that away, he deserved to be on the list, but towards the bottom. And 9 is the lowest ranked NC winning QB, he just made sense to me, over the bottom 3.
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B1G (Official Thread)

pnuts34
Zurp said:
Agree to disagree. I think that a quarterback is more than a passer - his job is to move the ball down the field to score points.
Here's some rough numbers on points per game by quarterback. (I found points per game per season, and I'm going by that quarterback is always the quarterback. I know there's flaws in this system, but I'm at work so this is what I did.)
Bellisari 99-01 - 26.79 ppg
Krenzel 02-03 - 27.03 ppg
2004 - Smith & Zwick - 24.17 ppg
Smith 05-06 - 32.38 ppg
Boeckman 07 - 31.38 ppg
Pryor - 08-10 - 31.79 ppg (Yes, I know that the beginning of 2008 was Boeckman's. If you want to take that out of Pryor's numbers, his average becomes 33.88ppg)
2011 - Miller & I can't even remember his name - 24.46
Miller - 12-13 - 41.33
Barrett - 14-17 - 40.25
Haskins - 18 - 42.36
Fields - 19-20 - 43.93
Stroud - 21-22 - 44.96
McCord - 23 - 30.54
Howard - 24 - 35.69
Sayin - 25 - 33.43

So, Pryor is pretty low on the list, unless you compare his numbers to just Tressell's teams. You can see a huge jump in numbers from Tressell to Meyer, so let's not compare Pryor to those quarterbacks. Ohio State averaged 29.58 ppg from 2001 to 2010. He's right there below Smith, who we all agree belongs on the list. And 2010 was 38.77 ppg, whereas 2006 was 34.62ppg.

(Note that I took the number of points scored each year and divided by number of games. Then, to do that over multiple seasons, I just averaged the two averages, which works if the number of games for each year is the same. But it isn't. If anyone wants to look at this deeper, check out this website. https://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/OhioState.htm)
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Love the breakdown. And I agree, QBs are more than just passing, BUT they are primary passers. And thats why my comment before was about TP's passing yards, but also, his overall TDs. His stats personally aren't that spectacular. And though in 2010 the ppg was 38.7, 2.3pass tds/gm as well as 2.1 rush tds/gm. So the offense was very balanced. While in 2006, less points were scored per game, there were more passing tds/gm to rushing(2.4 vs 1.9). And TP only scored 4 rushing TDs that year, so his legs weren't as dangerous scoring(though he was still second in rushing). From his actual games played, TP's stats don't jump off the screen. But again, that last year he probably would've solidified his greatness
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B1G (Official Thread)

BuckeyeNation27
pnuts34 said:
Stats are stats when compiling lists. If you want to throw in personal caveats based on rivals, and what is deemed as cheating or not. Than Tom Brady should never be on anyone's lists of top NFL QBs...
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Jeez....you wanna throw in a billion dollars and unlimited super models to bang as other reasons to not do it?
pnuts34 said:
It makes me want to throw up in my mouth to defend a scUM QB, but I was trying to take my Buckeye bias out when compiling the list. And Krenzel and Boeckman were 2 of the worst OSU QBs stat wise, and the only 2 I wouldn't consider on this list, or even any list stat wise.
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I mean.....you're the one who said McCarthy doesn't belong on this list, and then you ranked him higher than they did.
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NCAA - slowly ruining football (rules changes - merged)

Zurp
Jaxbuck said:
You'll just get two idiot officials looking at the same pair of pants and calling it completely different.

Or better yet, one will wait until mid 4th quarter of the biggest game of a teams season and then decide to call something they haven't called all year.

Before you dismiss it-we saw them call a penalty on OSU in The Game for a player not having his mouthpiece in. It was tucked in his face mask like they all do, every play, all year.
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1. I thought there was a rule about pants length. I mean, they made Zeke cover up his 8-pack.
2. When did that penalty happen? I don't remember it.
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B1G (Official Thread)

Zurp
pnuts34 said:
I couldn't bring myself to putting Pryor on the list because without his last year, his numbers are quite pedestrian. He's not even top 50 in career passing yards in the conference, and he'd be the lowest on this list for TDs scored. Now if TP had his senior year, I'd predict he'd be in the top 2. But he didn't, so I can only go by what he did.
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Agree to disagree. I think that a quarterback is more than a passer - his job is to move the ball down the field to score points.
Here's some rough numbers on points per game by quarterback. (I found points per game per season, and I'm going by that quarterback is always the quarterback. I know there's flaws in this system, but I'm at work so this is what I did.)
Bellisari 99-01 - 26.79 ppg
Krenzel 02-03 - 27.03 ppg
2004 - Smith & Zwick - 24.17 ppg
Smith 05-06 - 32.38 ppg
Boeckman 07 - 31.38 ppg
Pryor - 08-10 - 31.79 ppg (Yes, I know that the beginning of 2008 was Boeckman's. If you want to take that out of Pryor's numbers, his average becomes 33.88ppg)
2011 - Miller & I can't even remember his name - 24.46
Miller - 12-13 - 41.33
Barrett - 14-17 - 40.25
Haskins - 18 - 42.36
Fields - 19-20 - 43.93
Stroud - 21-22 - 44.96
McCord - 23 - 30.54
Howard - 24 - 35.69
Sayin - 25 - 33.43

So, Pryor is pretty low on the list, unless you compare his numbers to just Tressell's teams. You can see a huge jump in numbers from Tressell to Meyer, so let's not compare Pryor to those quarterbacks. Ohio State averaged 29.58 ppg from 2001 to 2010. He's right there below Smith, who we all agree belongs on the list. And 2010 was 38.77 ppg, whereas 2006 was 34.62ppg.

(Note that I took the number of points scored each year and divided by number of games. Then, to do that over multiple seasons, I just averaged the two averages, which works if the number of games for each year is the same. But it isn't. If anyone wants to look at this deeper, check out this website. https://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/OhioState.htm)
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B1G (Official Thread)

pnuts34
Onebuckfan said:
What about Beckman plated in a NC game lol
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I'm going by their stats. Come on now, I didn't think I needed to go into that much detail when it seemed obvious that an NC wasn't the only reason for McCarthy. Boeckman also didn't win an NC, and his career stats were again pedestrian like Krenzel
BuckeyeNation27 said:
Krenzel didn't have the defense given to him before each play.

I also doubt he ever played a game where he was only allowed to throw 3 times........let alone that game being a top 2 most important game of the season.
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Stats are stats when compiling lists. If you want to throw in personal caveats based on rivals, and what is deemed as cheating or not. Than Tom Brady should never be on anyone's lists of top NFL QBs...
It makes me want to throw up in my mouth to defend a scUM QB, but I was trying to take my Buckeye bias out when compiling the list. And Krenzel and Boeckman were 2 of the worst OSU QBs stat wise, and the only 2 I wouldn't consider on this list, or even any list stat wise.
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B1G (Official Thread)

BuckeyeNation27
pnuts34 said:
I understand the sarcasm. But you don't want to compare the 2, Krenzels stats are laughable. McCarthy doesn't allow Krenzel anywhere near the chat. And his numbers weren't even that good
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Krenzel didn't have the defense given to him before each play.

I also doubt he ever played a game where he was only allowed to throw 3 times........let alone that game being a top 2 most important game of the season.
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B1G (Official Thread)

pnuts34 said:
I couldn't bring myself to putting Pryor on the list because without his last year, his numbers are quite pedestrian. He's not even top 50 in career passing yards in the conference, and he'd be the lowest on this list for TDs scored. Now if TP had his senior year, I'd predict he'd be in the top 2. But he didn't, so I can only go by what he did.
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What about Beckman plated in a NC game lol
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B1G (Official Thread)

pnuts34
Zurp said:
Agreed.



What???

My thoughts on a list like this.
1. It's just clickbait during offseason.
2. CJ Stroud should be #1, in my IMO, and Fields #2. #3 isn't close. If you want to switch my #1 and #2, that's fine.
3. I am shocked that someone is giving some respect to Barrett. As a passer, I'd say he was a C+ to B- passer. But as a quarterback in college, he was an A+. He knew how to make that read on the hand-off. He made that first guy miss. He had speed. Most non-Buckeye fans don't give him the credit he deserves.
4. I couldn't tell you anything about Curtis Rourke. The name is only vaguely familiar.
5. Brad Banks? The name is slightly more familiar to me, but I don't know what year(s) he played.
6. Denard Robinson did well in 2011, from what I remember. But I would have thought that his 2009 and 2010 seasons would cancel that out. You can't just look at the best couple of plays a player had and judge his entire career on it.
7. I agree that Haskins should be on the list. Maybe put him there at #3. Hell, if you want to put him at #1 or #2, I won't complain. If you want to say Mendoza is better, I'll roll my eyes and silently disagree. There's certainly no one else I'd rather see on the list.
8. If you want to put McCarthy in there, I'll just disagree. I mean, according to the NCAA, he didn't do anything worth punishing. So... I guess he didn't do anything wrong.
9. I can't take a list seriously that doesn't have Haskins or Pryor. I already talked about Haskins, but put Haskins on the 2011 team and I'm convinced they lose 0 games before the post-season. Let's look at the losses in 2011: Miami (FL) - they lost 20-6. Tell me Pryor doesn't score 2 touchdowns. Michigan State - they lost 10-7. Pryor scores many times in that game. Cheaters - they lost 40-34. I gotta believe that Pryor can hold the ball longer, reducing the cheaters' chances to score, and Ohio State wins that. Nebraska - Pryor absolutely can hold onto a 21-pt lead. Penn State only won by 6. Or 7? Either way, close enough that Pryor wins it. Purdue? That doesn't even go to overtime.
10. Yeah - I'm putting at least 7 Buckeye quarterbacks on a list of Top 12 Big Ten quarterbacks of the millennium. And I'm not opposed to putting Will Howard on there, either.
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I couldn't bring myself to putting Pryor on the list because without his last year, his numbers are quite pedestrian. He's not even top 50 in career passing yards in the conference, and he'd be the lowest on this list for TDs scored. Now if TP had his senior year, I'd predict he'd be in the top 2. But he didn't, so I can only go by what he did.
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