Jaxbuck said:

At this point in the season the stats portion of the "true" lines they make are remarkably accurate. It's the market/game/injury/weather type of layers that are the difference makers.

I don't agree with anyone who fears OSU is flat for this one. I think Knowles took care of all that back in January. The key positions are QB and coaching, not sure if they are actually worse or better at HC but I'd wager the new QB is a step back, even if it's juts game experience.

That's why they cal it gambling but I wouldn't feel good about getting anything less than 21 if I was backing PSU.

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I don't think OSU will be flat at all, but I wouldn't touch this game, assuming a 10-point or more spread, because I have absolutely no idea what PSU is going to come out looking like. I could see an OSU slaughter (more likely) or something like 23-13 depending on that.

Jaxbuck said:

At this point in the season the stats portion of the "true" lines they make are remarkably accurate. It's the market/game/injury/weather/cheating type of layers that are the difference makers.

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Just sayin': Currently on 27/7 Ohio State has the #3 2026 recruiting class.


Rivals has the 2026 Ohio State class at #5:

This kid may become a decent QB

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MGMT said:

in retrospect paying him a high dollar amount was a mistake; that’s obvious. From a systematic standpoint I don’t have concerns with the organizational approach. For every Ethan there’s Klare, Atkinson and Malone.

If we want to mistakenly assess this through an NFL lens, look at the hit-to-miss ratio. It just seems really obvious that we hit on transfers a lot more than we miss. Never missing is impossible.

I dunno

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Yea, if OSU continues to rely on the portal this is gonna be part of the reality, like someone mentioned, I still think the approach is correct, just keep the ratios solid.

Still disappointed with Ethan's situation, but not all of these guys are gonna turn out like Fields, Downs, Bowen, etc.

scarletngray said:

Simply. The. Best.Vest.

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Ohio State basketball verbal Marcus Johnson finishing travel strong, mulling transfer​

As a junior, Johnson averaged 29.7 points and 5.7 rebounds per game with 4.7 assists and 2.2 steals. Garfield Heights (24-3) broke through to the Division III state semifinals.

Johnson has carried over his hot play with the Indy Heat team on the Nike EYBL 17-U circuit. Through four weekends (15 games), Johnson is averaging 19.0 points, 5.2 rebounds, 3.0 assists and 1.6 steals. He is hitting 33 percent of his three-point shots (24 of 72).

This past week in four games, Johnson averaged 17.8 points, 5.5 rebounds, 4.3 assists and 1.5 steals. He was 32 percent on three-point tries (6 of 19).

Johnson did not play with Garfield Heights at the Midwest Live team recruiting event in late June, giving rise to speculation he could transfer to a national prep school for his senior year. He has not announced such a move yet, however.
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Just sayin': Apparently he turned down over $100K in NIL money to stay at Garfield Heights.

Marcus Johnson, reigning Ohio Mr. Basketball, passes on prep school to stay at Garfield Heights for senior year​

• Aug. 18, 2025

Transferring to a prep school could allow Johnson to earn money through NIL, which is not permitted for student-athletes who compete at member schools within the Ohio High School Athletic Association. Ohio’s high schools voted down a proposal for it in 2022. At least 40 states allow some form of NIL, including Pennsylvania.

As that weighed on Johnson, he said he reached a conclusion this weekend after dinner with his parents, Sonny and Sianez Johnson.

“This is a big thing,” said Sonny Johnson, who also is his coach at Garfield Heights. “He’s turned down marketing opportunities and, with NIL, he’s turned down over $100,000.”

The possibility of going to a prep school or even enrolling early at Ohio State had been considered by the Johnson family since this spring. Sonny Johnson said they counseled Ohio State basketball coach Jake Diebler, whom Sonny said recommended Marcus remain at his high school for one more year.

Diebler and his brother, Jon, played for their father, Keith Diebler at Upper Sandusky and won a Division II state championship in 2005.

A state title has eluded the Johnsons, who made back-to-back regional finals during Marcus’ freshman and sophomore seasons. They got even closer last March. Marcus Johnson averaged 29.7 points per game, leading the Bulldogs to a 24-3 record, which concluded with a 49-48 loss to Louisville in the state semifinals. He scored a game-high 25 points against the Leopards before a hard fall knocked him out with 5:31 left in the fourth quarter.

Johnson said he wants another shot at reaching Dayton, both with his team for the state finals and to potentially repeat as Mr. Basketball.

“I want it more than ever,” he said. “We’re going to get it next year.”

Luke Kennard is the last player to win back-to-back Mr. Basketball awards in 2014 and ’15. Jared Sullinger of Columbus Northland, (2009 and ’10), O.J. Mayo at North College Hill (2005 and ’06) and LeBron James at St. Vincent-St. Mary (2001, ’02 and ’03) are the company Johnson will try to join. He also is on pace to be a four-time All-Ohioan.

Such feats would only be pipedreams had Johnson opted for a prep school.

in retrospect paying him a high dollar amount was a mistake; that’s obvious. From a systematic standpoint I don’t have concerns with the organizational approach. For every Ethan there’s Klare, Atkinson and Malone.

If we want to mistakenly assess this through an NFL lens, look at the hit-to-miss ratio. It just seems really obvious that we hit on transfers a lot more than we miss. Never missing is impossible.

I dunno

If you want to talk "athletic" linebackers then we should be looking at 1998 with Andy Katzenmoyer and Na'il Diggs up there with anyone.

Best duo at what LB's were asked to do at the time: Spiels and Pepper Johnson (not the best athletes, best players)

BuckeyeNation27 said:

Nice. But also, I'm taking the pedo enablers and the points with that spread.

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At this point in the season the stats portion of the "true" lines they make are remarkably accurate. It's the market/game/injury/weather type of layers that are the difference makers.

I don't agree with anyone who fears OSU is flat for this one. I think Knowles took care of all that back in January. The key positions are QB and coaching, not sure if they are actually worse or better at HC but I'd wager the new QB is a step back, even if it's juts game experience.

That's why they cal it gambling but I wouldn't feel good about getting anything less than 21 if I was backing PSU.

OregonBuckeye said:

I'd give the edge to Reese and Styles, but Hawk and Carpenter were elite athletes too.

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Re: the best actual group of Ohio State linebackers that I remember were A. J. Hawk, Bobby Carpenter, and Anthony Schlegel.

Just sayin': Even several years after playing, Anthony Schlegel still showed that "unique athletic ability" to tackle a fan in the open field.....

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Jaxbuck said:

I am with @gmen6981 here, I think you see a stale line that can't really be bet.

I am looking on draft kings who is the most aggressive of the bigger sites for early lines and you can't bet that game right now.

The power rankings numbers I am familiar with spit this out at something like OSU a true 17-18 point favorite with home field at -2.5 included.

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Nice. But also, I'm taking the pedo enablers and the points with that spread.

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Re: Anthony Thompson is officially the first true five-star commit for Ohio State basketball since D’Angelo Russell in 2014.

Just sayin': I wouldn't count 5 star transfers Aaron Bradshaw (Kentucky - Ohio State - Oregon) and Sean Stewart (Duke - Ohio State - Memphis) either......

I thought it would be easy to root against the Dodgers here but it really isn't.

Two teams from the same class of luxury tax payers. I don't really care who wins it. Not sure how much I'll watch.

billmac91 said:

This is a ridiculous take.

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He played 1 snap on Saturday. He's barely played more than Ian Moore this year.

BuckeyeNation27 said:

Why is this line so small?

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I am with @gmen6981 here, I think you see a stale line that can't really be bet.

I am looking on draft kings who is the most aggressive of the bigger sites for early lines and you can't bet that game right now.

The power rankings numbers I am familiar with spit this out at something like OSU a true 17-18 point favorite with home field at -2.5 included.