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2025-2026 Ohio State Men's Basketball

DZ83CK
buckeyemania11 said:
I think the Diebler hire was a bad small time program level move, but I would never actively root against Ohio State and i'd tend to agree that it's pointless to fire him after this year. He's not getting fired after this year anyways, there's no way the AD pulls the plug. Next year though I think he needs to show clear improvement and COMFORTABLY make the tournament (none of this hoping to stumble in as one of the last few teams crap)

He has a top-level HS recruit incoming but he needs to hit at a better rate in the portal this year to accomplish this. Obviously, we probably aren't getting elite portal level guys, but they need to make much better evaluations when deciding on the guys that they are realistically able to get.

I also agree that Diebler himself is not the "big" problem, but personally I just see a guy who's to this point in over his head as the head coach at a bigger level program. That could change but I don't think you wait and hang on for like 5 years if the change doesn't start in year 3. Of course, there is no assurance they will upgrade but if it's obviously not there you have to pull the plug and give someone else a shot at some point.
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I agree that recruiting NEEDS to improve, but the question is, does Diebler understand exactly where he & Holtmann went wrong? I'm not sure he does, but with more NIL resources in the future we'll at least be able to see if it's more of a lack of funding or lack of understanding issue.

Right now KenPom has OSU as the 26th-best offense in the country, which is good enough to be a tournament team. The problem is the defense is 76th-best, which is borderline NIT-level. Last year, offense #30, defense #50 - same problems. '24 offense was #39, defense #63. Now, you can still make the tournament with a bad defense and elite offense - between 2021 & 2022, OSU had two offenses in the top-13 of the country, and two defenses #82 or below & made it both years, and even though they did have EJ Liddell at least providing some backbone to the defense they didn't make the Sweet 16 in either season.

Obviously the recruiting philosophy has to change somewhat, we can't just keep doing the same things and falling into the same mistakes every year. My hope as I've said before is that more NIL resources will be available in the future to enable more higher level athletes to come into the program, but they will need to recognize that where they have gone wrong is defense, defense, defense and tweak their recruiting philosophy a bit to bring in the right guys. Maybe even having a couple starters who are plus defenders would do the trick - in 2020, they had Kaleb Wesson anchor the post and
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2025-2026 Ohio State Men's Basketball

buckeyemania11
DZ83CK said:
The Fan giving the hot takes this morning, T-Bone claiming it would be better for OSU to NOT make the NCAA tournament and get rid of Diebler. What a trash take. First of all, you don't want to punish players who've given a lot to the program like Bruce Thornton who have their last chance at making the tournament this season. Second of all, Jake Diebler is not the main problem with the program, and getting rid of him won't solve the larger underlying issues with the hoops program at all. Thirdly, why root against the team that you're a fan of? Where's the fun in that?

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The larger problem is the Administration not supporting the program adequately with NIL and forcing whomever coaches the team to be at a disadvantage in comparison to the upper echelon teams in the B1G year in and year out. You also have a program with a basketball facility and experience that fans don't really care to be a part of unless it's a big game, and that's true regardless of the coach. We should not root against Jake Diebler at all because there's no guarantee at all that OSU will upgrade, and he's a good man who deserves more chances to build the roster to compete with the upper echelon teams in the B1G on a more level playing field, instead of one where the odds are stacked against him as it's been the past couple of years.

Coach Diebler does need to make an adjustment in recruiting to target guys who are going to be better at addressing the defensive shortcomings in the program - most importantly defensive rebounding, but also getting guys who can do a little bit more in terms of defending without fouling, getting more steals and blocked shots which will help as well and it all adds up. If we could just up the ante some with NIL & be a little more defense-oriented in recruiting, then I think things will fall in line.
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I think the Diebler hire was a bad small time program level move, but I would never actively root against Ohio State and i'd tend to agree that it's pointless to fire him after this year. He's not getting fired after this year anyways, there's no way the AD pulls the plug. Next year though I think he needs to show clear improvement and COMFORTABLY make the tournament (none of this hoping to stumble in as one of the last few teams crap)

He has a top-level HS recruit incoming but he needs to hit at a better rate in the portal this year to accomplish this. Obviously, we probably aren't getting elite portal level guys, but they need to make much better evaluations when deciding on the guys that they are realistically able to get.

I also agree that Diebler himself is not the "big" problem, but personally I just see a guy who's to this point in over his head as the head coach at a bigger level program. That could change but I don't think you wait and hang on for like 5 years if the change doesn't start in year 3. Of course, there is no assurance they will upgrade but if it's obviously not there you have to pull the plug and give someone else a shot at some point.
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2025-2026 Ohio State Men's Basketball

Mike80
DZ83CK said:
The Fan giving the hot takes this morning, T-Bone claiming it would be better for OSU to NOT make the NCAA tournament and get rid of Diebler. What a trash take. First of all, you don't want to punish players who've given a lot to the program like Bruce Thornton who have their last chance at making the tournament this season. Second of all, Jake Diebler is not the main problem with the program, and getting rid of him won't solve the larger underlying issues with the hoops program at all. Thirdly, why root against the team that you're a fan of? Where's the fun in that?

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The larger problem is the Administration not supporting the program adequately with NIL and forcing whomever coaches the team to be at a disadvantage in comparison to the upper echelon teams in the B1G year in and year out. You also have a program with a basketball facility and experience that fans don't really care to be a part of unless it's a big game, and that's true regardless of the coach. We should not root against Jake Diebler at all because there's no guarantee at all that OSU will upgrade, and he's a good man who deserves more chances to build the roster to compete with the upper echelon teams in the B1G on a more level playing field, instead of one where the odds are stacked against him as it's been the past couple of years.

Coach Diebler does need to make an adjustment in recruiting to target guys who are going to be better at addressing the defensive shortcomings in the program - most importantly defensive rebounding, but also getting guys who can do a little bit more in terms of defending without fouling, getting more steals and blocked shots which will help as well and it all adds up. If we could just up the ante some with NIL & be a little more defense-oriented in recruiting, then I think things will fall in line.
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T-bone makes that show unlistenable. I never listen to it anymore. Unfortunately I do like listening to Tyvis but T-bones just too much with his whiny little fat man takes.
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OSU vs. USC, 6:30 PM EST 2/11 BTN

DZ83CK
Some interesting notes from Adam Jardy's pregame piece, OSU is 7-0 after a loss, and (after the opening 6-game win streak) 2-8 after a win. Just can't get win streaks going. Also, OSU is only 16th in the Big Ten in defensive rebound percentage.
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NFL Discussion (Official Thread)

Zem
NJ-Buckeye said:
California’s “jock taxes” force pro athletes who don’t live in the state to fork over percentages of their yearly income based on the number of days they work in California.

Sam Darnold received $178k for winning the Super Bowl.
He owes California $249k for just the Super Bowl (they factor is his per game salary based on his annual contract)

He also owes a whole bunch more because he played 49ers and Rams in CA as well
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Which was $5.3M this year. And he got $32M for signing with the Seahawks. I simply can't muster any tears for him for some reason.

The check for winning the game helped him pay the tax. I don't see what the problem is.
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OSU vs. USC, 6:30 PM EST 2/11 BTN

DZ83CK
ByData Skrive
Feb 10, 2026, 04:49 am
USC Trojans (18-6, 7-6 Big Ten) at Ohio State Buckeyes (15-8, 7-6 Big Ten)
Columbus, Ohio; Wednesday, 6:30 p.m. EST
BOTTOM LINE: USC faces Ohio State after Alijah Arenas scored 24 points in USC's 77-75 victory over the Penn State Nittany Lions.
The Buckeyes are 10-3 on their home court. Ohio State has a 2/3 record in one-possession games.
The Trojans are 7-6 in conference play. USC is sixth in the Big Ten scoring 81.3 points per game and is shooting 47.2%.
Ohio State averages 81.3 points, 6.0 more per game than the 75.3 USC gives up. USC has shot at a 47.2% rate from the field this season, 4.0 percentage points greater than the 43.2% shooting opponents of Ohio State have averaged.
The Buckeyes and Trojans meet Wednesday for the first time in Big Ten play this season.
TOP PERFORMERS: Devin Royal is averaging 13.8 points and 5.6 rebounds for the Buckeyes. John Mobley Jr. is averaging 3.4 made 3-pointers over the last 10 games.
Chad Baker-Mazara is averaging 18.3 points for the Trojans. Ezra Ausar is averaging 14.3 points over the last 10 games.
LAST 10 GAMES: Buckeyes: 5-5, averaging 75.4 points, 28.6 rebounds, 12.2 assists, 4.6 steals and 2.6 blocks per game while shooting 46.1% from the field. Their opponents have averaged 75.1 points per game.
Trojans: 6-4, averaging 72.2 points, 33.3 rebounds, 14.2 assists, 5.8 steals and 4.9 blocks per game while shooting 45.3% from the field. Their opponents have averaged 73.2 points.
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The Associated Press created this story using technology provided by Data Skrive and data from Sportradar.
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2025-2026 Ohio State Men's Basketball

DZ83CK
Now that clip didn't directly reflect T-Bone's disdain for the Diebler hire, but he is firmly anti-Diebler. I also think his implication that missing the NCAA tournament this season would be a motivating factor for bringing some kind of fundamental shift in priorities at OSU which would benefit men's hoops is delusional. If the OSU administration changed literally nothing to help the hoops program after missing the NCAA tourney for the third straight season a year ago, what makes you think one more year of that is going to bring about some sort of epiphany amongst the University leadership and light a fire under their butts? Foolish.
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