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Should semipro/college players be paid, or allowed to sell their stuff? (NIL and Revenue Sharing)

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This is not meant to be political. But how is limiting what one can earn not considered a form of socialism? If an adult is seen to be worth $5m/yr yet he's 19yo, how is it any different than a 50yo man who can be worth $5m/yr? Ive seen men in their 40s and 50s make mistakes with money just as I've seen men in their 20s make mistakes with money. And why is it anyone's business if they mess up the money that someone deemed worthy to pay them?

It sounds like a bunch of bitter middle aged and older men, who are envious that athletes at such young ages are able to earn as much if not more than their professional counterparts. Many are also envious that they couldn't earn similar amounts when they attended college
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C Christoph Tilly (Official Thread)

If that means we have Tilly at the 3 when Devin sits, I'd love it. That would be a large lineup but we need a couple guys to start being tough on the court. Maybe even a couple red assess.
Again with the roster as-is, I see Royal taking over the 3. Noel the main guy at the 4, but probably others Royal, Bynum and Tilly there depending on matchups and foul trouble. Ojianwuna and Tilly should basically be a platoon at the 5, with Bynum 3rd string & Ivan as emergency backup. Bynum probably would see most of his minutes at the 4. Tilly shouldn't be playing the 3 at all. I do think at the very least we will have a physically stronger frontcourt, although I must admit my expectations aren't for Tilly to be standing out in that area.
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Earle Bruce (OSU HOF, CFB HOF, R.I.P.)

For all his faults I always feel like Earle was my coach. Just the age I was during his tenure I guess.

Cooper was something that was done to me.

Tress,Urban and Day are just coaches of my favorite team. Love them when they win but the only guy I like even at 9-3 was Earle.

A far worse coach than Cooper ever was. Cooper was hurt by the fact that he had to bring back the program from the utter disaster that Bruce left it in. Bruce should have been fired far sooner than he was.
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2025 College Football Playoffs Discussion (12 Team Format)

the best part of this article is being reminded of how big of a dumbass regarding sports E Gordon Gee was. He and Shitta Oh-no from scUM are basically the same person, on different sides.

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2025 Heisman Trophy Discussion

Preseason odds have 2 Buckeyes among the top ten guys.

6-1 Arch Manning, Texas
9-1 Garrett Nussmeier, LSU
9-1 Cade Klubnik, Clemson
9-1 Jeremiah Smith, tOSU
14-1 Drew Allar, Penn St
15-1 Julian Sayin, tOSU
18-1 LaNorris Sellers, S. Carolina
18-1 DJ Lagway, Florida
20-1 John Mateer, Oklahoma (xfer from Wazzu)
20-1 Dante Moore, Oregon

Re: September Heisman: Can Denard Robinson Become A Legitimate Heisman Trophy Contender?​

If you stroll through our comment threads that have anything to do with Michigan football, you'll inevitably find some LOLZ discussion of Denard Robinson and his two September Heisman Trophies.

Just sayin': Yeah, but what are the odds that Bryce Underwood will be the Heisman favorite in September?

:lol:
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The Ohio State Baseball (Official Thread)

Holy crap! Sounds like tOSU has become Colorado (in football). Certainly do not/cannot believe that tOSU has recruited a bunch of slugs to play baseball. Not our style - in any sport. Guess it's the scarlet colored glasses talking....Does anyone have a link to a story of what's going on with this program? Thanks in advance...
We had been on a bit of a recruiting tear. Losing Graveline is brutal
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LB Chris Spielman (2x All-American, 4x Pro Bowl, 3x All-Pro, CFB HOF)

Was at the Spielman Center today with my 25 yr old daughter. Right off the bat, will say, despite the primary care doc's original concerns, they are now 99% sure NOT-cancer. Biopsy to confirm is already scheduled.

It was an anxiety-making day, especially for my daughter, but I just wanted to say what a great place the Center is and how much I appreciate Chris's part in making it happen. It was comfortable and quiet and everyone was very helpful and friendly and knowledgeable. Lots of Buckeye touches - not overdone, but you know you're at OSU.

They put her at ease, which was a small but important miracle. What a wonderful place to have in Central Ohio.

Game Thread Texas at tOSU, Sat. Aug. 30th, 12pm ET, FOX

Ryan Day admits what the challenge is that Ohio State is facing with the Texas Longhorns right around the corner

We are now less than six weeks away from the Ohio State Buckeyes opening their season by hosting Arch Manning and the Texas Longhorns.

The Buckeyes are coming off a National Championship win over Notre Dame—a magical run that also included a victory over Texas.

This year’s team, however, will look quite a bit different. Ohio State is replacing a significant amount of talent that departed for the NFL—14 players were drafted, and the Buckeyes have upwards of 16 starters to replace.

Head coach Ryan Day recently opened up about one of the challenges facing the program

A program like Ohio State reloads year after year thanks to elite recruiting and savvy use of the transfer portal. Player development is at an all-time high, and the program is in great shape. Still, Day acknowledged that replacing leadership has been a challenge.

“It’s been going good. The guys have been working really hard this summer,” Day said via The Bobby Carpenter Show. “And I think that the biggest challenge has been the leadership—figuring out who the guys are that are going to step up. When you look at last year’s team, there are guys returning like Caleb Downs and Sonny Styles—guys who have been in some leadership roles in the past—but a lot of players now have to step into more prominent roles in that area.”

I feel like it’s been a good couple of months leading up to it. As you know, when (strength coach Mickey Marotti) gets to work with these guys, that’s really when the team bonds and forges together. So we know that August is going to be a huge month—and it’s right around the corner.”

Fortunately for Ohio State, they return star wide receiver Jeremiah Smith for his second season and standout safety Caleb Downs for his third. Arguably two of the best players in college football, their presence will certainly help ease the transition.

Other key returners like Sonny Styles, Carnell Tate, Davison Igbinosun, Caden Curry, and Kenyatta Jackson have been in the program long enough to emerge as team leaders as well.
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2026 tOSU Recruiting Discussion

"Betting on himself" is the right way to put it – it's a definite risk with an unknown reward.

Instead, he should be "investing in himself." Here's what I mean....

There are two types of prospects who should always take the largest "bag":

(1) The kids who are going to be NFL stars regardless of where they go to school. For example, Jeremiah Smith and Caleb Downs. That's less than one percent of prospects; and

(2) The kids who have no reasonable chance to have a significant NFL career. That's at least 95% of prospects.

It's the kids in the middle 4-5% who really need to think about investing for the future rather than taking the biggest bag now.

If Ohio State offers a prospect $500k less than another school, that prospect needs to consider if "investing" that $500k in an Ohio State football "education" will make him a more marketable commodity in the NFL – in other words, will "earn" him more down the road than the $500k that he is leaving on the table now. Certainly, Ohio State has used that sales pitch on WR recruits who believe that learning to play the position from Brian Hartline will "pay dividends" at the next level. (Most everyone who goes to college uses a similar calculus – pay for an education to get a better job upon graduation.)

Part of the problem is that many kids in the 4-5% middle category think that they're in the top 0.1%. It will be interesting to see how often NIL money will enhance careers ... and how often it will ruin careers.
I agree but disagree also with your points.
You’re making it seem that these financial decisions are based solely on football. A kid getting an extra $500k is LIFE changing money! If You make the NFL or not, that can erase a lot of family debt and set up a kids life extremely well if he invests it intelligently. And contrary to what many believe, a good number of kids are getting sound financial advice. Getting the biggest bag now is still a very smart decision for a lot of kids, especially if you’re a 3star and may never see the field at a place like OSU. And I’m sure many of these kids don’t come from the best environments either, so it’s easy for us grown ups on a message board to tell them to just give up on half a million dollars to maybe Play at OSU.

And kids go to college and also have jobs which these athletes can’t have. So yes, they go in hopes of getting better jobs at graduation, but being able to work also helps. Also having much more free time to work more hours also helps. And I don’t know of any parent that would tell their child to not take a higher pay check from a company compared to another company. Weatherspoon is going to UNC, not Lackawanna Community college, he can still make the NFL. So can Noah Rogers who transferred from OSU to NC State
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tOSU Recruiting Discussion

I think what gets lost in recruiting now, is being able to manage your current roster. Fans get too excited over the shiney new toys of the 4 or 5star HS kid. But forget all about the talent on their roster(who most were also former 4 and 5star HSers). No matter how many misses and flips OSU has lost in '26, and will lose going forward. The fact that they were able to not lose a single possible starter to the Portal this pass cycle is HUGE! And that's on top of gaining multiple transfers at positions of need. I'd much rather have OSU not have to overspend for an 18 or 17yo fresh out of HS, then keep Igbinosun, Reese, Matthews or Inniss on the roster. That's good for Texas for paying 7 figures for Tyler Atkinson, but I'm much happier that OSU held on to Reese and Styles. If OSU can limit this attrition going forward, on top of signing top 5-10 classes, then they're going to be a constant tough out. Schools like Miami, Texas, Oregon, etc will have to constantly outbid on top of recruiting their own roster.
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