1926Buckeyes said:

The sooner they move on, the better, but they never will. His success is all they can point to that seperates them from Iowa or a dozen other decent programs. And the more they point to him as the pinnacle of football, the longer it’ll take to develop their own identity.

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I think this is spot on.
"They never will." Football, as a whole, will need to dissolve before they ever move on from him. And even then, it'll take a long time for them to move on.
"His success" - that's just it - they think it was HIS success. They think that he took a bunch of college kids and turned them into football players, after they success in school, of course. He didn't recruit football players. He turned them into football players. He did it. He did it all.
He's absolutely the pinnacle of football to them.

1926Buckeyes said:

Franklin wasn’t a great coach but he was as or more consistent than JoePa was in his final 2 decades. And that’s all you really need to know about the quality of JoePa and their program.

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Interesting claim. I figured I'd check on that:

In his last 20 years, Penn State was 172-75 under Paterno. That's 0.696.
In his 11 years, Penn State was 101-42 under Franklin. That's 0.706.
Since much of the seasons were only 11 games in Paterno's time, and Franklin's team got to 16 games last year, I think we need to only refer to win percentage, not the number of wins.
Paterno's teams finished with below 0.500 percentage 20% of the time. (4/20)
Paterno's teams finished with below 0.600 percentage 30% of the time. (6/20)
Paterno's teams finished between 0.600 and 0.800 35% of the time. (7/20)
Paterno's teams finished with above 0.800 percentage 35% of the time. (7/20)
Paterno's teams finished with above 0.900 percentage 10% of the time. (2/20)

Franklin's teams finished with below 0.500 percentage 9% of the time. (1/11)
Franklin's teams finished with below 0.600 percentage 36% of the time. (4/11)
Franklin's teams finished between 0.600 and 0.800 27% of the time. (3/11)
Franklin's teams finished with above 0.800 percentage 36% of the time. (4/11)
Franklin's teams finished with above 0.900 percentage 0% of the time. (0/11)

So, I would say you're right: their overall win percentages were close. The breakdown by season is pretty damn close, though. But Paterno had more terrible seasons, and more gooder seasons. Franklin was a little more steady.

He is accurate. Murray and Nix complain they have trouble seeing over the OL. They are just inaccurate.

The Raiders are not getting a lot of bang for their buck from their $6 million a year offensive coordinator

exhawg said:

I was surprised when I found out he was only 6'1 halfway through the season. I could tell he wasn't 6'4+, but he plays taller than 6'1 IMO.

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It’s a bit more negligible when he has excellent field vision. Look at how many 6’5 guys don’t see open dudes. Doesn’t mean shit if you can’t see them

See:

A shit ton of tall
QBs that have sucked ass

Literally no one surrendered so much as an inch on that play. Their LT couldn’t even move Reese on the outside.

Nowhere to go

Jaxbuck said:

They just had their Frank Solich moment.

Ask Nebraska how that goes.

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Pretty well from where I'm sitting!

Oh wait you mean for Nebraska fans...

Jaxbuck said:

They just had their Frank Solich moment.

Ask Nebraska how that goes.

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My thoughts exactly. And I’m good with that.

pnuts34 said:

Ive been saying that since Franklin was fired. Firing him mid season is going to an incredible amount of damage to the program, with recruits, current players, incoming coaches, AD and program as a whole. I tried telling this to a co worker who’s a Ped St fan. He said that they had to do something to make another step. I made the point that what if they were already at their ceiling. His counterpoint was JoePa, and then mine was that if you’re using an NC from 40yrs ago as your level of success, than your program is not an NC relevant program. They’re a 9-10win program which is where Franklin had them. Firing him just made the next HC’s job almost impossible because his seat is hot if he doesn’t win the B1G in year 2 and an NC by year 3. And if the coach has less than 9 wins(which I think he will since so much talent will be leaving and recruiting is a massive burden there) than you’re going to have some embarrassed and pissed off big money donors who will have caused this entire mess

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I think if PSU was on an island and 2010 transfer rules were in effect, you’d be spot on. At this rate, half of major college football will have a new coach and PSU‘s new head man can just import his old team and hit the ground running. I mean, that’s exactly what Cignetti did at IU, and that’s with JMU imports.