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2025 Heisman Trophy Discussion

I bet Allar rolls into Columbus on Nov.1 with some pretty decent stats. Then he'll come crashing down and we can end any Heisman talk ....

Just because he has a stretch of 150yd 1td 2 int games doesn’t mean you discount a monster 300 yd, 6 td game against Villanova.
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2026 tOSU Recruiting Discussion

One also would wonder (yeah, guess maybe only me?) which school might include graduate admission (medical, legal, business, ?) as an incentive? A well-paying job for mom and/or dad certainly, especially to the tweener in playing ability might move the needle one way or another. For a player truly looking to the future, this grad school incentive would be special.
That offer is really nothing. The girls basketball team has those type of deals. Grad school admission is basically like saying they’re letting the players have free Gatorade. That moves no needles.
What moves needles, private transportation to and from games for family(home and/or away, depending on how good the kid is), housing for family(I mean providing homes for a recruits family), cars for the recruit and family, things like that. Offering free grad school is a big deal for Elon, William & Mary, Liberty, Texas St schools of that size
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2026 MD DE Zion Elee (Maryland Verbal)

In the immortal words of Yogi, 'it ain't over, until it's over'. Again, the question is how much money does it take to overtake the hometown/state advantage? Wonder if tOSU will take a run at this guy, as LJsr might be getting a bit desperate. Also wonder how much pressure Day puts on him to 'keep up' with his other recruiters? Can visualize this year as being the turning point, what with an entire new DL, which will see how well LJsr does with these players. But have learned (?) not to underestimate LJsr, who appears to be the energizer bunny of coaches.
OSU couldn’t land this kid unless they emptied the entire rest of their NIL war chest for the year. Kids like won’t end up at a school like OSU, because they are looking to get the biggest deal possible, and a school the size of Maryland is not only his hometown school, but has the money from their collective to offer Elee 7 figures along with a ton of incentives that OSU just wouldnt(and frankly doesn’t have to). What Maryland can offer Elee, is like what Ojo is being offered at Tech, and that’s the type of deals that a mid tier school can throw at 1 exact recruit. And on top of that, Elee now wants to play both sides of the ball, in no way would OSU allow that insanity. They just told the reigning Mr. Football in OH who’s a QB for ‘26 to keep rocks because he wanted to play baseball along with football.
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tOSU Recruiting Discussion

Believe back in the day of 85 scholarship limit, was a much bigger issue than today, when shall we say, total # is liquid? Heard that coaches do sit down and pour over the positions, and position coaches talk about who's coming up, who's riding even, and who's not holding up their position, and might be when 'the talk' occurs, re playing time (now include NIL $). Have also read that position coaches start with the current players, and project them as to where their ceiling (?) may be, before the current/future recruiting season starts (that point in time is very blurred these days).
I think it’s imperative for any successful program to evaluate their current roster against any incoming class. And if your program is solely reliant on the HS class every year, then your program won’t be that good and the ceiling Is just making a CFP(I.e. Miami, aTm, Texas Tech. USC). Money will constantly have to go to teenagers looking for the biggest payday in many scenarios, but development is not very good putting a cap on the team because players aren’t playing to their full potential or their HS ranking was their ceiling, but yet they were paid so much from their NIL deals, that also leads to many of them possibly not getting better.
The teams who will see the most success,will be ones who can combines have a roster of talented veterans mixed in with top HS recruits. Not all of the HS recruits will be have massive NIL deals, and some will have to compromise, in hopes they earn more as they progress at those schools(I.e. OSU, Texas, UGA, Clemson, ND).
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2025 Countdown Thread

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2x All Big Ten
Pro Football Hall of Fame

Paul Warfield


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All Big Ten
All American
National Champion

John Brockington


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Bobby Carpenter
Always appreciate this every year. So cheers! :beer:

Probably goes without saying but also thanks for not using the pic of Bob on crutches UM game when he was emotional. Pisses me off every time espin does that. :oh:
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Jay Cutler (official thread)

Put me down for everyone in America having a 007 license to kill for snakes and over populated deer. Don't give a fuck if you eat them or not.

Like most guys from small rural areas in Ohio, I grew up amongst many a hunter. Doesn't bother me one way or the other.

After my time in the military I took on the personal stance that I wasn't killing anything that wasn't trying to kill me unless I need the food-I have opposable thumbs, they don't. I think that is for a reason.

I'd like to tell you all I will kill any snake I see on sight but that's a lie. I evacuate the area like a bitch.

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