Mike80 said:

Whatever my schtick is, at least I don't whine like a 6 year old who just had his puppy kicked by the big bad college basketball coach

So I have that going for me....

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buckeyemania11 said:

Your schtick isn't so fresh either buddy

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Mike80 said:

At least you realized it

But in all seriousness, this schtick of yours is beyond old bro.

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DZ83CK said:

Yeah, the bench this year did not really come out to be what the team needed. Chatman proved capable at times, although he did not play well in the postseason. Of course Noel missed almost the entire B1G season and by the time he came back he was basically out of the gameplan - even so, his statistical production prior to his injury was unreliable against high major competition. Other than that, they did not get much out of the bench. Njegovan and Cupps had some flashes where they helped, but their statistical production was almost non-existent. They badly need to upgrade bench production.

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buckeyemania11 said:

Oh yes all mighty all knowing one.

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DZ83CK said:

Yeah, the bench this year did not really come out to be what the team needed. Chatman proved capable at times, although he did not play well in the postseason. Of course Noel missed almost the entire B1G season and by the time he came back he was basically out of the gameplan - even so, his statistical production prior to his injury was unreliable against high major competition. Other than that, they did not get much out of the bench. Njegovan and Cupps had some flashes where they helped, but their statistical production was almost non-existent. They badly need to upgrade bench production.

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Mike80 said:

I could go back through the hundreds of whiny-ass posts but I don't have the time and it's certainly not worth any effort whatsoever.

Just understand constant negativity only serves you. It literally will change nothing about the program, or the players, or the coaches. So, since I like balance in all things, expect to be countered when appropriate.

This is one of those times.

There's ample evidence that this program made strides this year but here you are being miserable.

There's also ample evidence (provided by DZ in a different thread) illustrating that Diebler was actually one of the better coaches making adjustments, especially out of timeouts.

What you don't seem to want to understand, and what a problem a lot of this fanbase has (so congrats, I guess), is that SOMETIMES, you can do your best job coaching, have the best game plan ever, and have it all go to shit because your best shooter goes 1-7 in a half or because, ZOMG, the other team MIGHT just play better that day.

Another issue people seem to have with Ohio State basketball is a recency bias. Maybe you're one of them as well. I've already proven Matta was the ultimate unicorn in Ohio State history, yet he still got run out of town.

Anyway, you're just GUESSING about the gameplan. You have no idea. You weren't in the meetings, you weren't at the practices, you didn't study game film. You're not there and won't be unless you email Bjork to tell him what a genius you are. As it is, I sorta doubt you have any real basketball chops as a coach, which obviously ISN'T a requirement, but you carry on like you do. Alongside that, you certainly don't know shit about roster management in this stupid world of NIL and free transfers.

So expect to be countered when appropriate. Because balancing out the negative stupidity is necessary apparently. Much like with the rampant dumbassery that occurs during football season.

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buckeyemania11 said:

2024*

I don't recall ever calling for day to be fired I'm 2025. You're just making stuff up now

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Mike80 said:

What 2025 Michigan Debacle?

And I'll remain consistent in countering the incessant whining. Easily done.

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DZ83CK said:

Yeah, the losses in the portal last season obviously have to impact your grade of the team. The fact is they didn't land top targets like Williams, Swain or Davis Jr. Basically, it seemed like any transfer that other high majors really wanted didn't come to OSU. With the understanding that they obviously swung and missed really hard in the portal last season, it's not a surprise that this team was not able to be a contender. I'm with you about the portal this year, it's wait and see - hopefully they get a good one, but we can't get our hopes too high. We might be looking at a starting lineup of Mobley-Thompson-Royal-Bynum-Ojianwuna.

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buckeyemania11 said:

I'm not the only one who wanted day fired after the 2025 Michigan debacle......obviously he redeemed himself by going on the win the national title though. Notice I didn't scream about firing Day after they lose to Miami though. Since he showed he's capable of winning it all.

Neither of us are changing either mind about Diebler obviously. I'll remain consistent that he is basically a lame duck who shoulda never gotten the job in the first place until he really proves it otherwise. He did what he had to this year and at least got to the tournament I'll give him that but he's got a way to go to shed that lame duck lable.

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Mike80 said:

why would I email him for a lifetime contract? No coach deserves that, not even Ryan Day - who I think you wanted to fire as late as Jaunary 2025

Anyway - you just want to bitch and moan. That's all you do here- and that's your right. But expect to get countered when it's just bitching and moaning for the sake of bitching and moaning - especially when you don't know the context or you think you can do and say things that just aren't realistic in this day and age

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buckeyemania11 said:

Nah you email him get your boy that lifetime contact.

Also you'd fit in well at 11W lol the top thread over there right now is a post about how we should be taking a proud moral victory from this TCU loss

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Mike80 said:

Good for you! Email Bjork. Maybe he'll give you a shot.

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buckeyemania11 said:

I saw a team who looked like they'd never seen a trap before. Considering TCU has done this all season it's reasonable to think that proper preparation was lacking. You are on the opposite end of the extreme spectrum you say Im on your views are extreme too but you give extreme benefit of the doubt to the coaching and they can never be at fault.

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Mike80 said:

how can we admit something when we don't know the details? For all you know, maybe whatever the plan was wasn't executed by the players.

You're so gung-ho to blame the coaching you admittedly hate that you've forgotten that ultimately the game comes down to the Jimmys and Joes executing what is put into place.

but you can't possibly admit that - or even fathom the possibility.

And to "minimum stride forward". That's fucking hilarious, especially considering what you and others were saying in early February.

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CMic said:

Well, I don’t know if we left money on the table or not. But I do know we weren’t able to entice a top forward to OSU last year, which limits my expectations for getting a top PG this year.

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CMic said:

Well, I don’t know if we left money on the table or not. But I do know we weren’t able to entice a top forward to OSU last year, which limits my expectations for getting a top PG this year.

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buckeyemania11 said:

They weren't getting very far in the tournament this year but were they not comically unprepared in the 1st half for what TCU has done defensively all season? Can you at least admit that is on the coaching?

They made a bare minimum stride forward. If it's the same or worse at the end of next season are you gonna admit that it's not looking good or will you remain a sunshine pumper?

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buckeyemania11 said:

I still think the NIL thing is without some context. That's money spent not funds available. We were reportedly in on guys like Swain Peterson and Williams until the end. Who knows how much money ended up going unspent because we got burnt waiting on those guys and had to settle for scraps by the time they decided for elsewhere. I'm not saying we have a scUM money at all but I don't think the situation is as awful as some want to think.

This is why we need to be better at highlighting the best more realistic options Instead of hoping and waiting on those high high level types.

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