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2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments - NCAA: no wins taken away, no postseason ban

Just sayin': I've heard of vacated wins a forfeits; however, "no contest" is a new one. ANyone ever heard of a NCAA ruling of "no contest" before? Needless to say, scUm forfeiting the games would be the best; but, "no contest" would be better than just cacating scUM's wins, etc.
I've never heard of "no contest" in this sense.
I agree with your hierarchy, but they won't be forfeits. I don't have any insider information, but I feel very confident in my statement that they won't be forfeits.
I also feel confident that a ruling of "no contest" will not be made for any game.
All of the cheaters' wins from 2021 to 2023 will be vacated, only.
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People to Punch, Pet Peeves, and General Vexations (mega-merge)

I've never heard of MIPS. Also, when people talk about computers my brain tends to curl up in the corner and cry.

My brother and I were just talking about these three words/phrases:
1. "A whole nother". This doesn't bother me much, and I catch myself saying it.
2. "Very unique". This one drives me nuts, but I say it around my brother because he goes even more crazy. "Unique" means that it's the only one. There aren't varying degrees of uniqueness. Something is either unique or it isn't.
3. "I could care less". This one bothers me because it confuses me. I have to take a moment to figure out what the other guy is talking about. Is he saying he cares at least a little, and could care less? Or is he a doof and he really COULDN'T care less, because he already cares zero?
4. "Ask" as a noun. "The ask is to put this customer at the top of the list." "Ask" is a verb. Get it straight.
5. "I ain't gonna lie." Oh? If you hadn't said that, should I guess that you might lie to me? But now that you said that, I need to believe you? Maybe you're lying about whether you're going to lie. Along the same thread, the same is when people say, "Truthfully," or "To tell you the truth."
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2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments - NCAA: no wins taken away, no postseason ban

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stlbuckeye15: 5 hours ago
They cheated. They got caught. They lied.
They're going to be punished.
May their armpits be infested with the fleas of 1,000 camels.
:lol:

premierdrum: 2 hours ago
The initial framework offered last July included vacation of all or most of the 21-23 records (there was some discussion of full season vacation vs. vacation only of teams who were targeted by the scheme).
As time progressed and UM resisted, there were indications that enforcement began to discuss "no contest" rulings (which erases both the win and loss from both teams involved). Up until things went quiet in the runup to the COI hearing, I never heard anything from any credible source about forfeits.
With all that said, nobody is able to definitively say what will be decided by the COI: Not anybody here, not Boob Salsa and his "UM contacts," not anyone on Twitter. This case is now in the hands of folks who represent member institutions, including some whose schools were impacted by the scheme. My expectations are unchanged.

Just sayin': I've heard of vacated wins a forfeits; however, "no contest" is a new one. Anyone ever heard of a NCAA ruling of "no contest" before? Needless to say, scUm forfeiting the games would be the best; but, "no contest" would be better than just cacating scUM's wins, etc.
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2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments - NCAA: no wins taken away, no postseason ban

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Premierdrum 2 HOURS AGO
I don't expect any NCAA action on the Corum / LLC matter for several reasons, and ultimately I don't think it would matter.
Anything unveiled by those currently working that angle would likely be for public awareness, shame, and trolling purposes.
+ 18 HS

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BeaverOhioBuckeye 1 HOUR AGO
Ive said this once before and ill repeat myself. The person I talk to is on the same page as PD on pretty much everything he has stated on here. But he swears that the BC LLC will be looked into. It is an NCAA rule that players cant be in business with coaches. This broken rule alone is enough to wipe everything off the table Win and Title Wise with the NCAA. Not saying PD is wrong but the person I talk to swears this wont go unpunished. Take it for what its worth
The NCAA clearly has a hard-on for tCun, and rightfully so. If there's something there in the Corum stuff, I cannot see them saying "pass."
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Olympics: Flag Football

NFL approves players in '28 Games, but hurdles remain

IF AND WHEN NFL players are permitted to represent Team USA in flag football during the 2028 Los Angeles Olympics, Minnesota Vikings running back Aaron Jones would like to convey a simple message:

Sign me up.

"Flag football players may be upset at me for this, but yes, I would absolutely love it," Jones said. "Every other sport gets an opportunity to win a gold medal, and if you're not serving your country in the military, I feel like that's the other highest honor that you can represent your country in."

Jones and many of the key stakeholders needed to make this a reality have already made their positions clear on the idea of NFL players participating in the Olympic debut of flag football.

"Man, that notion of being able to represent your country, whether you're going to represent Team USA, Asia, Mexico -- whatever -- that's the ultimate dream," NFL executive vice president of football operations Troy Vincent said.

Among players, Jones is joined by many -- including Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes and Miami Dolphins receiver Tyreek Hill -- who have expressed interest.

"It's a perfect opportunity to get everybody playing one sport, representing America as a whole, and hopefully get a gold medal," New England Patriots receiver Stefon Diggs told ESPN.

The prospect even has support among owners.

"That's exciting and positive for the NFL," Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said. "I can see that and identify with that real quick... I'm a fan of what the Olympics can do for interest in your sport."

With so much common ground, it might seem as if NFL players suiting up in the Los Angeles Games would be a slam dunk. In reality, it will require the parties to navigate many thorny issues.

NFL owners convened in Minnesota on Tuesday and approved a resolution released last Thursday that aims to make this a reality. The resolution needed to be approved by at least 24 of the 32 team owners, but it was approved unanimously.

After the voting result was announced, Minnesota Vikings All Pro receiver Justin Jefferson praised the opportunity for which he was strongly advocating. But Jefferson didn't commit to trying out for the 2028 Games.
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Jake Diebler (Head Coach)

Gotta say, like Bjork's attitude of wanting men's and women's BB up there along with the football folk. No longer letting them 'just mail in their games' while the football team gets all the print space in the Dispatch. Seem to recollect that was Gene Smith's attitude when he strode the halls as AD. Always seem to go back to the Director's Cup, for all around excellence in a university's sports programs. Of course, if you want to play in the big boy's sandbox, you've be able to marshal the resources necessary to compete. We'll never see it, certainly, but the administration has to make a concerted effort (and put ones money where ones mouth is) to do this. This is the opinion of this writer only, and not to be confused with common knowledge....
It can be done, and I dare to say fairly easily given tOSU's resources. Today, it's easier than ever to field a good to great basketball team in short order. But you need a good coach and an open check book. I don't know if Diebler is that coach, it's too soon to tell. We brought in some decent guys in the portal this spring, but once again, I don't think we even pursued the "big fish." That tells me his words of wanting winning basketball programs ring pretty hollow. Round up those boosters. Hell, LeBron claims to be one of the biggest tOSU fans out there, buzz his tower about being a benefactor to the basketball program. The guy has more money than some small countries. I'm not asking for Duke results where you're in the discussion every year, but give us something to cheer about more often than not. That's doable. The last 9-10 years have been filled with disappointment and mediocrity. Four tournament appearances in ten years, never advancing past the second round is ridiculous.

This isn't the mid-late 2000s anymore and young Thad Matta isn't walking through that door with his magnificent recruiting. From ~2005-2013 it seemed like we were consistently chasing, and occasionally landing, the top recruits in the country. Now you have to do it in the portal. Until I hear about us going after, and occasionally landing, the big names, I just expect that the administration is content with just trying to get to the tournament. And that's unfortunate. The basketball program has always had lukewarm support. If they're winning, the fan engagement is there. If they aren't, apathy sets in pretty quickly. We've been in the apathy stage for a few years now.
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Cleveland Guardians (2025 Season Thread)

I think the Guardindians peaked against the Yankees in the playoffs…they aren’t going to spend to make it further than that, so I get the sense this team is a pullback. If it’s not…they did a really shitty job of roster refocusing afterwards.

Yea they are looking like they are starting to fade fast right now. Lost 5 in a row and 3-7 in the last 10.

The bullpen who carried the team pretty much last year was historic, it was unrealistic to expect that again and yea....it's not holding up, they've hit a nice downturn and the starting pitching and offense are not capable enough to pick up the slack.

2024 bullpen ERA 2.57 (by far #1 in the MLB, 2nd was 3.11)

Current 2025 bullpen ERA 4.06

WHIP has increased from 1.05 to 1.40
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2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments - NCAA: no wins taken away, no postseason ban

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Premierdrum 2 HOURS AGO
I don't expect any NCAA action on the Corum / LLC matter for several reasons, and ultimately I don't think it would matter.
Anything unveiled by those currently working that angle would likely be for public awareness, shame, and trolling purposes.
+ 18 HS

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BeaverOhioBuckeye 1 HOUR AGO
Ive said this once before and ill repeat myself. The person I talk to is on the same page as PD on pretty much everything he has stated on here. But he swears that the BC LLC will be looked into. It is an NCAA rule that players cant be in business with coaches. This broken rule alone is enough to wipe everything off the table Win and Title Wise with the NCAA. Not saying PD is wrong but the person I talk to swears this wont go unpunished. Take it for what its worth
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NFL Discussion (Official Thread)

Tush push ban vote tabled by NFL owners for more discussion

NFL owners plan to continue discussions about the Philadelphia Eagles' short-yardage tush push play after tabling a proposal Tuesday to ban it, league officials said.

The Green Bay Packers authored the proposal, which earned the support of 16 NFL teams, two sources told ESPN's Kalyn Kahler. NFL bylaws require a minimum of 24 votes to approve a change. The topic is likely to be revisited when owners gather for their spring meeting May 20-21 in Eagan, Minnesota.
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Proposal to ban tush push in NFL fails by two votes, sources say

Even the most powerful figures in the NFL were unable to stop the tush push.

A proposed ban of the tush push play that the Philadelphia Eagles have popularized did not receive enough votes at the spring meeting Wednesday in Eagan, Minnesota.

Before the vote, retired Philadelphia Eagles center Jason Kelce and team owner Jeffrey Lurie spoke to the owners to lobby for the merits of keeping the play.

Sources told ESPN's Adam Schefter that the final vote was 22-10 on the proposal, which was submitted by the Green Bay Packers. The proposal needed 24 votes to pass.

The 10 teams to vote against the proposal, sources told Schefter, were: The Eagles, Baltimore Ravens, Cleveland Browns, Detroit Lions, Jacksonville Jaguars, Miami Dolphins, New England Patriots, New Orleans Saints, New York Jets and Tennessee Titans.

Interestingly, the Indianapolis Colts (Shane Steichen) and Arizona Cardinals (Jonathan Gannon), who are both coached by former Eagles coordinators, both voted in favor of the ban. Steichen had previously expressed his support for the tush push play last month at the annual league meeting.

The Eagles celebrated the result, writing "Push On" overlayed on an image of their team lined up for the tush push against the Packers in a post to X on Wednesday. The Eagles and Packers will face each other in a "Monday Night Football" game in Week 10 this season.

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OL Donovan Jackson (All B1G, 1st Team All-American, 1st Team Academic All-American, National Champion, Minnesota Vikings)


FILM STUDY. It’s no secret the Minnesota Vikings love Donovan Jackson.
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In a recent video for the Minnesota Vikings YouTube channel, O’Connell broke down some of Jackson’s tape from his final season at Ohio State. (What I shared below is a video from the Vikings’ X account and a link to their YouTube video, as the NFL blocks video embeds on our website.) I found O’Connell’s insight fascinating, as it reveals what made Jackson a desirable option for Minnesota when it came time to make the No. 24 overall pick in the NFL draft.

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HC Ryan Day (National Champion)

Skull Session: Ryan Day Thought Ohio State’s Title Would “Feel Different,” Larry Fitzgerald is “Always Available” to Marvin Harrison Jr. and Kevin O’Connell Breaks Down Donovan Jackson’s College Tape

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“I THOUGHT IT WOULD FEEL DIFFERENT.” In an interview with NBC Sports’ Nicole Auerbach last week, Ryan Day made a comment about winning a national championship that interested me.

“When you wake up the next morning after winning a national championship, do you feel different?” Auerbach asked.

“No. No. I thought it would feel different. It didn’t,” Day answered. “It felt great, but it didn’t take long to be like, ‘What’s the next thing? Where are we going next? A lot of work to do.’ And there’s no time for resting, you know, we got to keep building this thing, keep growing. It certainly did feel great, but not much has changed. We’ve got another season ahead of us. We’ve got a great group of guys that we’re building and they’re a little bit young and we got to replace a bunch of players.

“But that’s it. The goal isn’t to win championships; that’s not the goal. The goal is to make an impact on young people’s lives. At Ohio State, if you don’t win championships, you’re not gonna be the coach for very long, that’s just how it goes. So winning and winning championships just allows us an opportunity to continue to make an impact on these people’s lives, and that’s what this job is all about.”
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Just sayin': Yeah, making an impact on young people's live is great; however, my goal is for the Buckeyes to win champions and to beat scUM......:nod:
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CB Jermaine Mathews, Jr. (National Champion)

Jermaine Mathews Jr. Working to Make "BIA" Moniker Ring True Again for Ohio State's Cornerbacks in 2025

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All that feels different about being a starter for Jermaine Mathews Jr. is the depth-chart designation.

The junior made big contributions in big spots as both a freshman and a sophomore, even if he was backing up Ohio State’s starting outside cornerback tandem of the past two years, Denzel Burke and Davison Igbinosun.

“It just means I'm going to be out there a little bit more,” Mathews said in April. “It really doesn't change too much. Just make the plays when they come to me and just try to get better.”

Ohio State’s cornerback room lived up to its “Best in America” moniker in 2023 and 2024, helping the Buckeyes' pass defense finish as a top-three passing defense both years. Burke and nickel Jordan Hancock depart as starting corners from both those teams, but Mathews' goal is to step from supporting actor to main cast at cornerback and work with Igbinosun to ensure the label rings true again in 2025.

“I think we're the most talented cornerback room in the country,” Mathews said. “I thought we were last year as well. So I think nothing changed. We're BIA for a reason. So I think whoever's in the room, we’ve just got to keep up that standard.”
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Ohio State Track and Cross Country (2020, 2021 B1G Women's outdoor Track Champs)

Buckeye Men Win 4x400m Relay Title on Final Day of Big Ten Championships​

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The Ohio State track and field program concluded three days of competition at the 2025 Big Ten Outdoor Championships in Eugene, Ore. on Sunday. The Buckeyes won the men's 4x400m relay championship, had 14 personal record breaks and six top five finishes.

The men's 4x400m relay team consisting of Noah Carmichael, Mason Louis, Braxton Brann and Edidiong Udo became champions with a season-best time of 3:04.08. The group earned their spot on the All-Big Ten First Team and Udo was named to the All-Big Ten Freshmen Team.

DJ Fillmore earned his place on the All-Big Ten Second Team after finishing as the runner-up in the men's long jump. He recorded a new PR distance of 7.68m/25'2.50".

Leah Bertrand, Bobbi Olive, Fatuma Conde and Janela Spencer ran a season best 43.84 seconds in the women's 4x100m relay, placing third. Udo, competing in the men's 400m finals, also placed third with a time of 45.78 seconds.

Bertrand came in fourth in the women's 100m finals with her second-best time of the season (11.20 seconds). The Buckeye men's 4x100m relay team of Brann, Denzell Feagin, Nick Biega and Fillmore recorded a fifth-place time of 39.64 seconds, rounding out the Buckeyes' top five finishes.

Olivia Powell hit a new PR of 13.48 seconds, finishing eighth in the 100m hurdles prelims – the first of the Buckeyes' 14 PR's broken this weekend. Sophie Bidwell had a personal record of 48.76m/160' in the women's discus throw. Carina Napoleon recorded PR's in both the women's 800m (2:07.61) and the women's 1500m (4:21.26, 13th in the prelims). Zamesha Myle placed 13th in the women's long jump with a new PR of 5.83m/19'1.5". Katie Castelli set a personal record (10:15.78) in the women's 3000m steeplechase, placing 10th. In the women's hammer throw, Morgan Hallett set a new personal record of 52.06m/170'9". Nazzio John, Marcus Brown and Brann all competed in the men's 200m prelims, each hitting a new PR. John placed 10th (20.84), Brown, 11th (20.86) and Brann rounded out the group with the 16th best time (20.99). Lacey Stringer set a PR in the women's shot put after placing sixth with a distance of 17.31m/56'9.5". In the men's 5000m, Kevin Agnew led the Buckeyes with a new personal record of 14:20.01. Teodora Iovi set a new PR (16:37.62) in the women's 5000m.
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Up next, the Buckeyes turn their focus to NCAA postseason action as the team will head to Jacksonville, Fla., for the NCAA East First Round beginning Wednesday, May 28, with national championship bids on the line.
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Ohio State Men's Golf (Official Thread)

Buckeyes Cap Season by Winning National Golf Invitational​

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Ohio State men’s golf was looking to end the season on a high note, and it certainly did, winning the National Golf Invitational over the weekend at the Ak-Chin Southern Dunes Golf Club in Maricopa, Ariz.

The Buckeyes went into the final round with a one-shot lead over Utah State and carded an 8-under 280 on Sunday to beat the Aggies by seven shots.

Sunday’s round was true team golf as big swings happened early. Utah State started hot and took an early lead. But then the Buckeyes flipped the lead at the end of the opening nine by playing holes seven and eight at 6-under par. They then held the lead the rest of the way.

Head coach Jay Moseley wanted his young team to finish the year strong and build momentum for next season. Sunday’s win was the Buckeyes’ third victory in the final four tournaments of the season. That’s in addition to a fifth-place finish at the 18-team Big Ten Championship.

Joe Wilson IV, who missed all of last season recovering from surgery, finished his year with the best tournament of his career. He posted three under-par rounds for the first time in his career, carding rounds of 70-67-71 to finish tied for third at 8-under par. He closed in style with a birdie on the 18th hole.

Freshman Timotej Formanek also finished his first season in the states with his best collegiate tournament. He too posted all three rounds under par at 70-69-70 to finished sixth at 7-under par. He made a pair of eagles over the three rounds.

Freshman Vaughn Harber birdied four of his final six holes to post a team-best 69 on Sunday. That capped a 5-under par event and gave him a seventh-place finish. Harber tied for the most birdies over the three rounds with 18.

Tyler Sabo posted rounds of 68-72-75 (-1) to notch his second under-par tournament of the season. Fellow sophomore Jack Vojtko finished with his best round of the weekend, carding a 2-under 70 on Sunday.

The Buckeyes led the field in both par-4 and par-5 scoring and made a combined 71 birdies over the three rounds. Ak-Chin Southern Dunes Golf Club will host an NCAA Regional next spring.

National Golf Invitational
1 TEAM 278-280-280 -26
3 Joe Wilson IV 70-67-71 -8
6 Timotej Formanek 70-69-70 -7
7 Vaughn Harber 70-72-69 -5
12 Tyler Sabo 68-72-75 -1
21 Jack Vojtko 74-73-70 +1
Just sayin': The 5 golfers listed above include 2 Freshmen, 2 Sophomores, and 1 Junior.
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