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2025 tOSU Offense Discussion

Jesus Christ,


Thanks for positing this was great.

Their DL is holistically better than ours I think. I love our crew but they absolutely don’t generate pressure like that. They held their own against UT and IU, but that front is on another planet.

I really hope Day is working with Sayin on a lot of intermediate stuff because that ball needs to get the fuck out of there. That’s one of the best overall units in the country regardless of position and can take over games.

Hopefully Jackson can get some tough yards.
They also gave up 365 pass yards to SMU and almost 200 yards rushing to Va Tech. Not to mention a number of other high 200s pass yards allowed.

If all we are going to do is watch highlights then yep they’re scary as hell. But this is a defense that has its warts vs both the run and pass.

That said, this will be the best DL we face all year and that includes if we win it all. But this isn’t a defense that is some kind of 2000 Miami defense either. We can score 30+ on these guys if we stay aggressive and don’t turn it over
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2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, Arrogant Twatwaffles, Emasculated Cucks, Feckless Marmots, Dirty Cheaters "Mid"chigan

It really doesn't come down to religion. It comes down to where you been and what relationships you have. Of course bags can help, but in the end a coach needs a solid base to grow from, and throwing money at elite recruits and portal transfers can fill a void, but they can't build that base. Whittingham's coaching career is centered in Utah and Idaho. From there, he may have grabbed some recruits from the western states, and leaned on the mormonism. That is his base.

What happens when he rolls into a high school in Columbus, someplace in GA, FL or VA and has no relationship there to roll from? It is that much harder. And even if you get a recruit, they may not be totally bought in, because they were literally bought.

The only saving grace for Whittingham is the current climate of paying for rosters, but that isn't a recipe for sustained success, which makes me think maybe Scum wants 2 good years from Whittingham to get a coach that can bring that potential sustained success. That is the current climate.
I’d just say “the brotherhood” at OSU is real…..even kids who transfer usually do so under very amicable circumstances. “The brotherhood” also really sells recruits, as they see how strong the culture is within the program.

Georgia has a “weird” driving issue amongst its team, but when you look at their roster retention, it’s pretty special. Georgia continually has the fewest transfer portal players that get snaps amongst P4 teams.

Dan Lanning wears his religion on his sleeve….

Just a few examples….you’re right, some kids do just “chase bags” but those haven’t really been the kids the truly elite programs have chased. Texas A&M fits that mold, and this was as close as they’ve gotten which was an awful performance in playoffs.
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2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, Arrogant Twatwaffles, Emasculated Cucks, Feckless Marmots, Dirty Cheaters "Mid"chigan

I don’t want this come across the wrong way at all, but I’m really curious to see how an openly devout Mormon, recruits nationally to a national powerhouse program. It’s one thing when you’re the Head Coach of Utah or BYU, and you have a pipeline of Mormon kids in that geographical area to pull from.

Whatever your opinion on religion, many coaches/programs build their culture and identity around Christianity….the Buckeyes being one of them….it really connects with a lot of recruits parents as well.

I’m not a very religious person so again, I’m not knocking the Mormon faith or Whittingham…..I just wonder when he’s sitting at a kitchen table trying to pull a kid to Michigan, and you’ve got Ryan Day, Dan Lanning, Kirby Smart all pitching “their culture” and it resonates a lot more because the Mormon faith is a bit foreign to a large portion of the United States. Just something to think about…

Ultimately, I really think he’s just being paid to get them through the next 3-4 years with as little off the field damage as possible so I don’t think Michigan really cares that much about national recruiting at moment anyways…
It really doesn't come down to religion. It comes down to where you been and what relationships you have. Of course bags can help, but in the end a coach needs a solid base to grow from, and throwing money at elite recruits and portal transfers can fill a void, but they can't build that base. Whittingham's coaching career is centered in Utah and Idaho. From there, he may have grabbed some recruits from the western states, and leaned on the mormonism. That is his base.

What happens when he rolls into a high school in Columbus, someplace in GA, FL or VA and has no relationship there to roll from? It is that much harder. And even if you get a recruit, they may not be totally bought in, because they were literally bought.

The only saving grace for Whittingham is the current climate of paying for rosters, but that isn't a recipe for sustained success, which makes me think maybe Scum wants 2 good years from Whittingham to get a coach that can bring that potential sustained success. That is the current climate.
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