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LGHL B1G Thoughts: How should Ohio State fans feel about Ryan Day?

B1G Thoughts: How should Ohio State fans feel about Ryan Day?
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Oregon and Ohio State gave us a ‘Game of the Year’ contender. What does that mean for Ryan Day?

Every week after the Big Ten games, I will bring you some B1G thoughts on everything that happened! This will include analysis, stats, key players, moments, and more. With the Big Ten expanding from 14 teams to 18 teams in 2024 we will have a bunch of storylines to follow.

Ryan Day and
Ohio State are all in for the 2024 season. Is Oregon a national championship contender or will they stumble in their first Big Ten season? How do the former members of the Big Ten West fair in the new divisionless format? This article tracks all these storylines and more as the Big Ten hopes to win back-to-back national championships.

Check out the I-80 Football Show for more in-depth analysis and to preview the next week of B1G games.



The Ryan Day Dilemma Continues


Ohio State just went to Eugene Oregon and lost a 32-31 thriller after quarterback Will Howard failed to slide with enough time on the clock to attempt a game-winning field goal. I know that I should be writing positive things about Oregon, here but I’ll save that for another column.

After another close loss, Ohio State fans are at each other’s throats on Twitter, some believing Day is still the one who was promised and others ready to meet at his home with pitchforks to walk him to the John Glenn airport. The unfortunate reality is that they are both partially right, and the answer is somewhere in the middle.

Since the COVID season, Ryan Day is 0-3 against Michigan and without a Big Ten championship. He also has two losses to Oregon, lost to Georgia in the playoff semi-finals and had a no-show against Missouri in a bowl game after not making the playoffs last season.

In the last three and a half seasons, Day has played 14 games against top 25 programs. He is 7-7 with three wins over Penn State, a team that Ohio State fans don’t respect, two wins over Notre Dame, a win over an overrated Michigan State team, and a come-from-behind win at Utah. Of those seven wins, which was the most impressive? Which win truly matters?

In his other seven games, all losses came against Michigan, Oregon, Georgia and a bad loss to Mizzou. Besides the Missouri loss, and this most recent loss to Oregon — as the season isn’t over — Day’s five losses have cost Ohio State three big-time championships, two playoff berths, and a place in the national championship against a TCU team they would’ve obliterated. So what is more important to you? Beating Penn State, Notre Dame, and Utah, games that are essentially meaningless, or losing to your biggest rival and the top of the food chain.

It is true that Ryan Day has never lost a game to an unranked opponent, he beats almost everyone he plays as evidenced by his .871 winning percentage in 70 games. Ryan Day has a clear high floor at Ohio State. He will always be one of the top five programs in the nation. Does that matter if that’s also his ceiling?

Another close loss that could’ve easily gone Ohio State’s way leads you to a dilemma. Do you believe that Day is facing bad luck and eventually the close losses have to swing in his favor? Or do you believe that he is his biggest enemy and Ohio State will never get out of its way causing more frustration as they continue to butt heads against its ceiling.

Personally, I don’t know where I stand. I have a hard time believing that Day will be able to fix his constant mistakes. At the same time, I look at the sport and see coaches like James Franklin, Lincoln Riley, Marcus Freeman, Brian Kelly, Mike Norvell, Dabo Swinney, and Brent Venables and I can’t think of another coach I would rather have. Therein lies the dilemma.

Do you wait and see if Ryan Day can finally break through? I mean, it took Michael Jordan and LeBron James seven years to win a championship, and they’re the greatest to ever do it. Or do you cut your losses now before it gets too late and try to find a better coach who can capitalize on the Nick Saban-sized hole in the sport?

Losing Lincoln Riley


If there is anything that can make me feel better about Ryan Day, it’s Lincoln Riley. For much of their careers they have been compared due to the fact they both took over dominant programs from Hall of Fame head coaches as young hot-shot offensive coordinators. Despite their prowess in recruiting and quarterback development, a lot of their success was hand-waved away by having been given the ‘keys to a Ferrari’.

To many Ohio State fans, Day has not lived up to his promise, but he is far and away been more successful than Lincoln Riley. At this point, the biggest difference is Day’s ability to admit he’s wrong and make changes. He doesn’t always get the changes right, but he is not nearly as stubborn as Riley.

Day also owns up to his mistakes and the pressure of leading his program, while Riley continues throwing fits and trying to ban reporters for being too harsh on his program or asking his players questions about pivotal moments in the game like Minnesota’s quarterback sneak.

You can make the argument that Day, like Riley, failed to capitalize on his most talented quarterback ever, but Day won 11 games in back-to-back years, Stroud was a two-time Heisman finalist, and they played Georgia well, losing by one point. Riley on the other hand never made the playoffs with Caleb Williams, and finished his final year at 7-6.

Day recognized that his defense needed to be revamped, and paid two million dollars for Jim Knowles. He realized that he needed to give up play calling, and hired Bill O’Brien and then landed Chip Kelly when B.O.B. left for Boston College. Riley is still calling plays and just changed his defensive staff, and even that decision was questionable as his staff construction makes little to no sense.

Already in 2024, Riley is 3-3 with losses to Michigan and Minnesota — two programs that will be lucky to reach seven wins. To make matters worse, they had Penn State on upset notice, but Riley once again lost a close game with questionable play calling and coaching decisions, ending the game with all three of his time outs.

Riley and USC have yet to show that they can compete in the Big Ten where every program is physical and tough on the lines of scrimmage, even the bad ones like Minnesota and Northwestern. Sitting a 3-3, USC still has to play Maryland, Rutgers, Washington, Nebraska, UCLA and Notre Dame. With how they’re playing so far, the only win they should feel confident about is an awful UCLA program.

Riley would be lucky to end this season 7-5. So far he has disappointed as USC’s head coach, and the light at the end of the tunnel is slowly disappearing.

Someone give Tyler Warren an Ibuprofen and some Icy Hot!


Penn State’s offense has not lived up to the hype over the first half of the 2024 season, but they are undefeated and the No. 3 team in the country with their playoff hopes in front of them and a seat in the Big Ten Championship still on the table if they can beat Ohio State.

For most of the game it looked like USC was going to win, but star tight end Tyler Warren put the team on his back in a herculean effort that saw him haul in 17 catches for 224 yards and a touchdown. Warren played tight end, quarterback, ran the ball, and even snapped the ball on the play he caught his only touchdown.

Warren kept Penn State in this game and ultimately won the game to end USC’s upset bid. It was one of the best single-handed displays of talent I’ve ever seen. I’m sure his back hurts. Hopefully he spends a little extra time in the training room as they head into the off week, as he needs all the rest he can get after that performance.


Tyler Warren started the play with the snap and ended the play with the TD catch. Here's how it happened. pic.twitter.com/Onq9jkPhS2

— CBS Sports (@CBSSports) October 12, 2024

What just happened and how did we get here?


Lost in a busy weekend, Purdue and Illinois played an epic game that ended in overtime with the final score of 50-49 after Illinois stopped Purdue on a two-point play to win the game.

Illinois quarterback Luke Alymyer threw for 379 yards and three touchdowns with 60 yards rushing and a rushing touchdown. Purdue started a freshman at quarterback, and all he did was throw for 297 yards and three touchdowns with 118 yards on the ground as well. Purdue had two 100-yard rushers as they carried the ball for 239 yards and two touchdowns on 7.5 yards per carry.

I’m going to have to go back and watch this game, as these stats would be impressive on air. Can anyone confirm that both teams fielded a defense? This game will get lost as it was a largely meaningless matchup and was overshadowed in its conference by Ohio State and Oregon, but it was an awesome display of offense.

Illinois continues their strong season, moving to 5-1, as Purdue may have found its quarterback of the future in freshman Ryan Browne.



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Stupid two point conversions (SimpLLLLLe Jim loves 'em, and so does James Franklin)

Special shout out to Jake from Bielema on Saturday.

Illinois scored to go up 40-28 with just over 5 minutes left, so they went for 2 as expected. Their OL was called for OPI in the end zone for blocking a defender as the receiver caught the ball over the middle just short of the goal line and then got into the end zone. With the severe 15 yards on that penalty, the ball is now on the 18 and Bert went for 2 again anyway, and of course they failed.

Then Purdue scores with just under 2 minutes left to get within 40-35 and recovers an onside kick. They get a first down in the red zone with a little over 50 seconds left, and then they should have let the clock run down to 30 seconds or so since they had 2 timeouts left. But they hiked it quickly, still in hurry-up modem and scored with 47 seconds left. Their successful 2-pointer put them up 43-40.

The Illini then cross midfield and get extremely lucky when a strip-sack gets a quick whistle as Altmeyer was holding the tip of the ball and pressing it against his leg as the guy is tackling him and ripping at the ball. I thought it should have been a fumble and game over, but it was one of those calls where replay wasn’t going to change it either way, So they get into FG range and tie the game at the end, which would have been a game-winner if Bert had kicked the long XP earlier.

Then in OT they both scored easily, the Illini went up, Purdue got it to 50-49 and went for 2 and the win, but their QB ate the ball under pressure so Illinois survived. If that 2-pointer had worked, Bert would have gotten some tough questions about the 2-point try from the 18-yard line.
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HC Ryan Day (2019 B1G Media COY)

It’s not one 1pt loss…it’s 1-7 and all the losses looking pretty much the same. But whatever
3 losses were against a stacked deck
1 loss was against what will go down as Saban's best team ever (and with Fields playing with a cracked rib)
1 loss was against a generational repeat national champion that took MHJ out of the game
1 loss was by one point on the road against the #3 team in the country

OT Josh “Jimmy” Simmons (Official Thread)

I though this loss was bigger than the game loss. In theory there is still a way to the B1G championship and Natty after losing to Oregon. It will be a lot harder without Simmons.
I'm just catching up on individual threads but this would be very bad...it's not hyperbole to say Simmons was probably the most important player on our offense and he was coming into his prime this year. We're going to have to think hard about how to mitigate this loss, and keep our QB from getting crushed. Not to knock a player, but Zen is a significant downgrade at LT and that could be a big liability.

As for Simmons, speedy recovery my guy.
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HC Ryan Day (2019 B1G Media COY)

Sorry, but pregame expectations don't mean squat when you establish a double digit lead in the 4th quarter and blow it. You gotta finish those, I don't give a damn who the opponent is.
Left out the other part where the other team targets our star WR to take him out of the game.
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HC Ryan Day (2019 B1G Media COY)

Yep. If we can't manage to land these types of guys out of HS, there is absolutely zero reason we should not be able to go find a at least capable kicker through the portal.

If Day and Staff are looking at what we have and saying "yea thats good enough" then that's a major problem.
Or did we go after the Fredo kicker, and he felt that he wouldn't be developed to get to the NFL at Ohio State and chose Bama instead?
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LSU Tigers (official thread)

I was pretty sure they were 2 different people.
@Gatorubet tries to come off as a "Yat" but is most likely a Westbanker
and to help explain why Ubet is such a confused individual:
the Westbank is due South of the Eastbank.
but to get to the Westbank from the Eastbank, you have to drive due East.

and people wonder why Louisiana is last in Education.
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HC Ryan Day (2019 B1G Media COY)

The one in Atlanta where OSU was a 6pt underdog against the #1 team in the country?

Sorry, but pregame expectations don't mean squat when you establish a double digit lead in the 4th quarter and blow it. You gotta finish those, I don't give a damn who the opponent is.
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