Of course he is responsible for his actions. We all are.

Recognizing that someone is an addict and having empathy for the tragedy of seeing them destroy their own life doesn't mean you are advocating they are not responsible for what they do in the grips of that addiction. In no way are you minimizing the impact to the innocent victim. I personally don't see any incongruency in feeling sad for the victim, his family, Barton and his family.

If people think addicts are just bad or weak people then they really don't understand the issue. It's a disease and when it gets a hold of people it's tragic all the way around. Tragic to watch them so filled with self hate that they destroy their own life and then in cases like this where that destruction spills out and impacts innocent others.

Steve19 said:

This was not a mistake. No defense. An example of narcissism and repeated bad choices. A complete ass for years who stole and sold from the football program and lied about his "insider" insights for years. Deep sympathy for the accident victim.

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Agreed. He headed to the bar intending to get drunk. And knowing that he would be getting drunk, chose to drive. That's all the intent we need to hold him solely responsible for everything that happened next.

calibuck said:

Great topic. Which comes first, the NIL or the recruit? Easy to understand, coming off a Natty, how tOSU is increasing their war chest. but am struggling to understand, how the under-performing USC does it. Certainly understand fanatics, but more of the fanbase are in a wait-and-see mode. Sooo, does USC promise a 4* LB, $2.2 mil over two years (?), and then ask folk to pony up NIL bucks? Or? Is the money there, saying 'we trust you to spend this to become competitive (and soon)'. Dunno, help me clear away the fog please. Happily, do not need to understand this side of the problem.

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So schools like USC and Miami are interesting in the NIL space, because fans per se aren’t the ones mainly funding their collectives. They are schools located in 2 of the biggest metropolitan cities in America and are also in cities where the entertainment industry is a major driver. And there are also just people who are insanely wealthy and want a toy to play with. These very wealthy people in these can just throw money at a collective and it doesn’t matter to them, and the collectives can try and stock pile guys based on stars and that’s what’s happening. The difference in that approach and OSU’s is that OSU is actually vetting kids and their families and seeing who will fit the culture of the program and the school in general.

It was brought up on the BH podcast that many fans were up in arms in 2023 and were yet again all over LJsr and were calling for his job after losing out on Keeley, Wilson, MU when all were favored to OSU at one point. Now all are going into their 3rd years, and we watched MU get dominated in the 2nd round of the CFP by Josh Simmons, Wilson is on his 2nd school in Mizzou after a lackluster freshman(looking for yet another payday), and Keeley has literally been a non factor at Bama.

And the fact that OSU refuses to go into bidding wars also sets them apart. Day and staff lay out what the team can offer and Pantoni lays out everything else. You either want to be here or you don’t. And I’ll ask this, does ANY OSU fan want to change places with a Miami, USC, Oregon or aTm fan? I can assure you no Buckeye coaches want to switch teams…
Sorry for being a little long winded with my answer

TDunk said:

When's the measuring contest coach?

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That only comes out when a QB is involved

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I’m a traditionalist, but I think I’ll like it. The rendering makes it look like it will be stained a light grey so the wood slats and grain will still be visible. Could use some black accenting but the goal was to keep it clean so I get it. Much prefer this over a floor like Oregon’s that has too much going on. It’s difficult to watch games on their court.