Some keep using the word ‘embarrassed’. Why?
They lost a football game to a good team. They didn’t lose to Appalachian State and their coach isn’t in prison.
Relax.

knuckifyoubuck said:

I don't think that's the issue myself, not trying to argue, but I don't think that's why we just got booty blasted.

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I think the layoff was a pretty big factor. It felt like it took them a half to get back to game speed. Second half they looked like a pretty different team and were dominating in stretches.

Well, I'm thankful for a new year (today) and much more.

I'm thankful for all the joy, pride and excitement the Buckeyes have brought into my life, and life of my family. OUr lives do not revolve around football, it's simply that we are fans, and it is something we enjoy.

I am looking forward to what this season brings. It looks to be a tougher schedule, which IMHO is much needed. Oregon, Indy, USC, Texas, Iowa will be tough games.

Will Sayin grow from this game and become a much better QB? Will the OL improve? Could St. Clair beat him out, is that a possibility? I'm not saying Julian isn't good, but will St. Clair have some things to say about who starts? Different and needed skill set? If Sayin learns valuable lessons from the last 2 games and improves off of this, he'd be hard to supplant IMHO.

Will ST become solid? How will the D do when we are losing some players?

The team needs improvement all around, and especially in the trenches.

Happy New Year to you all!

buckeyemania11 said:

Just a bitter bitter end to this year. It's very hard to repeat but laying total clunkers in losses in both of our last 2 games to end the season just leaves a sour taste in the mouth.

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Like I said, with all the coordinator shuffling and NFL defections the team suffered in the offseason, I'm honestly much more surprised they were as good as they were. I had them pegged for three or so losses but the team was MUCH better than I anticipated and the offense was super young all things considered. This felt more like an inexperienced team finally getting exposed rather than anything glaring save for the OL, which needs to be addressed post haste. The losses suck no doubt but honestly the team probably overachieved, weak schedule be damned.

I’m not giving Sayin a pass but he made many more plays than he didn’t. His confidence was hurt after IU. I’m usually not a sunshine guy but they should have shown him his great plays not just his mistakes. Julian out performed expectations for a RS freshman QB.

North Texas State for Greene

cincibuck said:

1965 Michigan State, mean Joe Green, Mike Webster,.

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You’re thinking of Bubba Smith and, I don’t know who else. Joe Greene and Mike Webster didn’t go to MSU (and weren’t in college in 1965).

Well. Coach Day has a lot of work to do and it will ruffle feathers
1. he has to go outside to find a Matt Patricia OC…..not hand it to Bailey or Bowen like he would
2. he needs an OL developer….is LeCharles interested ?
3. There is no excuse to have horrible kicking….new PK and P. Malpractice actually
4. use the portal better - whiffed badly this year.
5. QB needs to be a threat to take off and get 5 yards when pocket collapses

muffler dragon said:

Thanks for sharing @Mike80
Hope your daughter and girlfriend are alright in short order.

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Daughter is good. We’re getting the tow truck arranged to get her out of the ditch now.

Girlfriend was kept overnight for observation. They’re not sure yet what happened and I’m short on details still.

Appreciate it

Thanks for sharing @Mike80
Hope your daughter and girlfriend are alright in short order.

I think one big knock on the defense, that I'm also jealous of because OSU didn't utilize it, is the QB run on broken plays or you know just throwing the ball away to avoid sacks. Beck was able to extend multiple drives due to almost just "wanting it more" and taking off. Sayin had at 2 3rd downs I can remember where he could've run for less than 5yds and got a 1st down. There were also countless times I was screaming at my TV for Sayin to just throw the ball away and not get sacked. I think the experience gap between the QBs was on display. Beck kept his offense ahead, and not having to make hero throws to get 1st downs.

scarletngray said:

Question: Logan George has been injured a large part of the season. Does anyone know if he can apply for a red shirt this year?

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I'm pretty sure he can apply for Medical redshirt. And the NCAA is essentially neutered, so he could probably get it granted.

Captain Buckeye said:

Imo who cares. Amounted to what 1 title win?

Even so that title was because of the LOS and a battle warrior QB

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First off, Carnell will be missed greatly in this offense.

But you're ABSOLUTELY correct! Last year was one of the best LOS groups Day has had since he's been HC.

Greyshirt said:

The Defense gave up 17 points. And 7 they let walk in at the end.
The offense was the problem. You can not take the first half off with your offense and expect to win big games.
Instead of the pick 6 you get a fg there and that is a 10 point swing. And Miami is driving to tie game at the end.
No the offense lost that game 100% IMO.

I am of the opinion that if your defense gives up less that 20 you should win. Especially in college football. And in perfect conditions like last night that defense played fine.

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100% agree, the team approached the game with a Sleep Walker mentality. Laughably enough, probably what the 2002 Miami team did. You'll get humbled in this sport. Still... the defense was rocking.

The Defense gave up 17 points. And 7 they let walk in at the end.
The offense was the problem. You can not take the first half off with your offense and expect to win big games.
Instead of the pick 6 you get a fg there and that is a 10 point swing. And Miami is driving to tie game at the end.
No the offense lost that game 100% IMO.

I am of the opinion that if your defense gives up less that 20 you should win. Especially in college football. And in perfect conditions like last night that defense played fine.