Jaxbuck said:

So I went back one more year and looked at OC Ryan Day in 2018:

Year	FEI Offense	rank	plays per game	points per game	DFEI	rank
2018​	0.56​	4​	82.4​	42.4​	0.23​	44​
2019​	0.91​	3​	78.6​	46.9​	0.78​	2​
2020​	0.82​	4​	73.9​	41​	0.16​	45​
2021​	0.92​	1​	71.7​	45.7​	0.27​	33​
2022​	0.8​	4​	68.3​	44.2​	0.53​	12​
2023​	0.37​	14​	66​	30.2​	0.83​	2​
2024​	0.81​	1​	62.8​	35.7​	0.83​	1​
2025​	0.65​	9​	64​	30.6​	1.06​	1​

My opinion is that Day saw his defense suck royal ass for his first 4 years of being the sole play caller/OC. Now the question is did he go that fast because he had to?

Regardless, I see a guy who, after losing The Game 2021 and almost the Rose Bowl to Utah, said screw this and changed. Nothing happens in a vacuum, he changed coordinators but he also slowed the offense down.

I see 2022 on as 4 years of his new approach with 4 different QB's.

Two are really good, one is really bad, one is bad by OSU standards.

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Who cares about efficiency if you’re scoring 12 more points a game. More opportunities = more points.

I’d rather score 42 points a game over 30 per game.

The change was because the defense only needed 21 points to win. I think there’s a world where you can have both the 42 points per game and a top 5 defense. 2019 proves you can have both the #1 offense and defense at the same time.

That’s not my expectation btw. That’s nuts to expect the best of both. But 30 points a game is a pretty far drop from where those early Ryan Day teams were.

We didn’t win it all last year because of our tempo. We won because we were experienced and very talented.

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The coaching staff had weeks to review and adjust from that game to see what was happening. Then we had Purdue be disruptive. Nothing changed. Then we had IU; nothing changed.

I understand Hartline had the offense and “day omg ceo” but you mean to tell me he didn’t see that film and think to
Himself “this will absolutely cause a loss” and I quite deeply about remediation and degree of improvement? It literally got worse as the schedule ramped up.

I’m not trying to sound pessimistic or whine but the more I think about it I’m really looking at Day on this one. Maybe now that you had issues for 3 games, then lost another 2, you’ll finally do something drastic about it after it cost you your season.

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Captain Buckeye said:

Is there a discussion somewhere else where we are discussing the transfer kids who are visiting?

Buckeyehuddle reporting La’Khi Roland from Maryland visiting this weekend. Started 6 games, had 3 INT, and a big corner at 6 foot 2.

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Yes,it’s in the OSU transfer portal thread in the Rumors section

I do think they needed to play faster, especially in the 2nd half, but more than that they needed a lot more short, quick passes in that game once it became clear they couldn't protect Sayin. All the shot plays they usually take and hit weren't going to be there and it didn't seem like there was much of an adjustment to their normal offense. Instead of the deep curls they always throw to Smith, throw him a quick slant and see if he can;t get some YAC. The play before the hold on Daniels, that deep out to Tate, that play had no chance.

Funny how we hear things and believe the hype. Just a small bit of information goes a long way i guess lol.

Would be nice to have Coleman but not for something nutty like 2-3 mil a year.

At least with Koi Perich he produced like an all big ten player so I can understand money for a player like that.

Jaxbuck said:

Football isn't basketball so this is nonsense. It's just noise. You keep making hypothetical situations to support your narrative.

So scoring is the key. Agreed. If you had a choice, would you take the 8-9 minutes off the clock and score a TD or would you score a TD faster than that?


What you are fumbling in the dark for is the concept that Indiana can execute better and take what the defense gives them. So can OSU, we just have to execute better.

You are conflating a result (losses) with the approach (efficiency). The approach is the correct one, it just needs to be executed better.

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To each their own. With our talent advantages you should be aggressive.

There’s a reason lessor talented teams want to play slow and drag you into the deep waters.

I’ve readily stated it’s somewhere in the middle of uptempo and our current pace. All I know is when we faced good defenses this year it was a huge problem. Texas, Indiana and Miami had an aggressiveness our methodical offense could not match.

Keep playing slow and first off we aren’t going to attract the kids who want to play in that system. Because after all when there’s 3-4 possessions a half that’s a lot of missed reps. But second off, you’re really asking less of an opposing defense. Because again, that’s less plays a defense has to buck up for. Would you want an extra 20 snaps a game from JJ Smith? I know I sure would.

Once again I’m not saying go hurry up. I’m saying more explosiveness (less hitches and 5 yard out routes) and vary the tempo. We can protect the starters reps in a different way. Instead of having a 17-3 or 21-3 lead at halftime if you’re up 28-3 or 31-3 then there’s no need for your starters at all.

Hit teams harder earlier and later in the game is the backups. Theres no need to see Julian and JJ in the 3rd quarter in most of our games.

Captain Buckeye said:

I don’t think I realized he only had 1 sack and 8 tackles. Raw indeed.

Maybe he’s worth the money but maybe he’s not? You can’t pay out for a kid who’s a question mark.

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Dang. I did not realize that either.

I'm guessing the coaches need to decide if the reasons they did not pursue him heavily before have been resolved.

Faheeh Delane

Congrats to Lincoln! Hope he kills it there!

Certainly can but depends what we return. The offenses we play this year will be no joke as well. Have to imagine Oregon will be solid, IU, USC, and Texas should be better equipped too.

Have to get some help on the DL though. I’d think KJ will come back but if by some miracle McDonald comes back then we are in business. I don’t think he will be who knows.

As it is we are looking at Houston and Jackson returning on the DL which is a pretty good start. We also have Matthews (more than likely) and McClain returning so that’s 4 starters returning.

This defense is going to be different though so it’ll be interesting to see what Matt Patricia does. He has discussed tailoring his defenses to what he has. So knowing that it’s going to look different without the two 6’5 245 pound head hunters. We won’t be lining up these LBs at defensive end for example.

I’d expect much more traditional looks from this group and the pressure to come from the interior (lb blitzes from a traditional depth) unlike this year where it was from the outside.

Will be interesting to see what they add in the portal.

Is there a discussion somewhere else where we are discussing the transfer kids who are visiting?

Buckeyehuddle reporting La’Khi Roland from Maryland visiting this weekend. Started 6 games, had 3 INT, and a big corner at 6 foot 2.

I don’t think I realized he only had 1 sack and 8 tackles. Raw indeed.

Maybe he’s worth the money but maybe he’s not? You can’t pay out for a kid who’s a question mark.