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J.J. McCarthy (once a tCun, always a tCun)

when what's left of Carson Wentz scrambles for his life


No joking - Wentz had probably earned himself at least a couple more years based on his play for the Vikes this year. Not tremendous by any means, but effectively managing the game. His season ending shoulder surgery likely ends it - but he was more than capable
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What plays in Buckeye History rank with the Scoop ‘n Sawyer, aka The Texas JackSaw Massacre?

I’m willing to dispute it. Holy Buckeye definitely saved that game and kept the dream season alive. But the team still needed to beat Illinois in OT and win The Game before playing for the title.

Sawyer’s play was in a playoff semifinal, and not only prevented a game-tying chance, it was a turnover and an 83-yard score to basically seal a victory. For me, it definitely ranks higher than Zeke’s dagger run against Bama and it’s my top Buckeye play ever.

But it’s certainly a more enjoyable topic than ’most painful loss’, which gets revisited more than necessary,
I have to agree, for all the reasons you've already mentioned.

Also, even though we're only comparing individual plays/moments, I think the games they happened in has to be a factor. It's nitpicking but we're nitpicking greatness here after all...

Those Semifinal games are all-time Buckeye games, too.

Objectively, that Purdue game was pretty awful. And that is without even considering that Purdue team was not good. The game itself overall is a brutal watch. Yes, Holy Buckeye was legendary, but the 3 hour game surrounding it was...not good. If you don't believe me, try putting yourself through a full rewatch.

Also, rounding out the Mount Rushmore has to be Clarett's strip of Sean Taylor.
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Deion Sanders (HC Colorado, Father of SubPrime)

he has them right where they almost always have been for the last two decades.

2007: 6-7
2008: 5-7
2010: 5-7
2013: 4-8
2015: 4-9
2017: 5-7
2018: 5-7
2019: 5-7
2021: 4-8
2023: 4-8
2025: 3-7


that's 6 straight coaches that have them 4-8 / 5-7 pretty much every year with an occasional blip here and there each direction.
This is true

It is worth noting that Colorado split a national title in 1990, two years more recent than Notre Dame’s most recent title!
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J.J. McCarthy (once a tCun, always a tCun)

Just hand the ball off bro.

How hard is it to play QB?
People say this shit all the time and it straight up pisses me off. Football is more than just what you see on Sundays. They prepare all week to be able to play on Sundays. The shopping for eye black. The applying of eye black. The scheduling of camera crews to take "unexpected" "impromptu" pictures of you meditating barefoot. The time it takes to put lotion and ointments on your feet for walking around barefoot like a fucking idiot all the time. The practice time spent in front of a mirror getting that crazed lobotomy stare just right. The phone calls to the OC constantly asking where this week's playsheet is containing the other teams playcalls that they STILL haven't given you since joining the NFL for some reason. The dance routine you need to memorize just in case you need to fake another lower body injury so you can be on the sidelines but still celebrate when what's left of Carson Wentz scrambles for his life and gets a first down right in front of you on the sidelines.

It's hard.
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Michigan State Spartans (official thread)

The interesting thing about this article is it actually states Michigan got away with it.



“First, the particulars: the NCAA on Wednesday placed Michigan State on probation for jaywalking, nearly three months to the day after allowing Michigan to get away with stone, cold murder.


The Spartans were forced to vacate 14 wins from 2022-24, while the Wolverines were allowed to keep their national title. A blatant protection of the blue blood university, and an obvious takedown of little brother.”
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2025 College Football Playoffs Discussion (12 Team Format)

I understand that, but I don't give two turds in a coffee cup about thinking like an SEC hack. I'm talking about real life thinking.

Take specifics out.
Conference A has one really good (great) team, and 3-4 "good" teams. Only two of those "good" teams make it into the playoffs, and no one sheds a tear about any other "good" teams that didn't make the playoffs. The two teams lose in the first and second rounds, respectively. The great team gets to the finals. Say they win it all. No one else in the conference impresses anyone.
Conference B has 6-7 "good" teams, of which 5 make the playoffs. The rest of the conference is "meh". One team loses in the first round, two in the second, and two lose in the semifinals. No teams make the finals.

Which conference is better?

For the record, I'll vote that Conference B is better. But... I don't care which conference is better. If my team loses in the playoffs, the conferences can drink their coffee out of a coffee cup that I didn't put two turds in. I want my team to be the winner. If some nerd thinks he can make me cry by saying that his conference is better than mine, he can have fun thinking that. But maybe he's right.
My argument is: I root for a team, not a conference. Fuck those other guys, my team or bust. All the hypothetical arguments piss me off, too. Can't be proven right or wrong, and we'll likely never ever ever know anyway, so why waste time on it? Games are played on the field. Likewise, I don't care if "Alabama would crush them if the game was played today". Well, the game was played in September, and ya'll lost by 2 scores. The facts show that 2 of the top 4 teams in one conference lost week 1 out of conference games, one was a really really bad loss in hindsight. Now I'm rambling. Basically, I pretty much agree with what Zurp said.
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2025 College Football Playoffs Discussion (12 Team Format)

You gotta think like a SEC SEC SEC! hack here. Postseason results may only be used to point out strength when the SEC does well. If the SEC does not do well "you can't judge them based on the postseason!"
I understand that, but I don't give two turds in a coffee cup about thinking like an SEC hack. I'm talking about real life thinking.

Take specifics out.
Conference A has one really good (great) team, and 3-4 "good" teams. Only two of those "good" teams make it into the playoffs, and no one sheds a tear about any other "good" teams that didn't make the playoffs. The two teams lose in the first and second rounds, respectively. The great team gets to the finals. Say they win it all. No one else in the conference impresses anyone.
Conference B has 6-7 "good" teams, of which 5 make the playoffs. The rest of the conference is "meh". One team loses in the first round, two in the second, and two lose in the semifinals. No teams make the finals.

Which conference is better?

For the record, I'll vote that Conference B is better. But... I don't care which conference is better. If my team loses in the playoffs, the conferences can drink their coffee out of a coffee cup that I didn't put two turds in. I want my team to be the winner. If some nerd thinks he can make me cry by saying that his conference is better than mine, he can have fun thinking that. But maybe he's right.
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