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Week 15/CCG Game Discussion Thread

For talk of this week’s matchups, except the game in Indy.

The 6 bolded TV network names are the potential CFP auto-bids. Although there’s a separate thread for CFP speculation/discussion.

Week 15/Conference Championships​

Friday, Dec. 5

7 p.m. | Kennesaw State at Jacksonville State — Conference USA Championship | CBSSN
7 p.m. | Troy at James Madison — Sun Belt Championship | ESPN

8 p.m. | North Texas at Tulane — American Athletic Championship | ABC
8 p.m. | UNLV at Boise State — Mountain West Championship | FOX

Saturday, Dec. 6

12 p.m. | Texas Tech vs. BYU — Big 12 Championship (in Arlington, Texas) | ABC
12 p.m. | Western Michigan vs. Miami (Ohio) — MAC Championship (in Detroit) | ESPN
12 p.m. | Villanova at Lehigh (FCS Second Round) | ESPN+
12 p.m. | South Dakota at Mercer (FCS Second Round) | ESPN+

1 p.m. | Illinois State at North Dakota State (FCS Second Round) | ESPN+
1 p.m. | Abilene Christian at Stephen F. Austin (FCS Second Round) | ESPN+
1 p.m. | North Dakota at Tarleton State (FCS Second Round) | ESPN+
2 p.m. | Prairie View A&M at Jackson State — SWAC Championship | ESPN2
2 p.m. | Yale at Montana State (FCS Second Round) | ESPN+
2 p.m. | South Dakota State at Montana (FCS Second Round) | ESPN+

4 p.m. | Georgia vs. Alabama — SEC Championship (in Atlanta) | ABC

8 p.m. | Virginia vs. Duke — ACC Championship (in Charlotte) | ABC
8 p.m. | Ohio State vs. Indiana — Big Ten Championship (in Indianapolis) | FOX

10 p.m. | Rhode Island at UC Davis (FCS Second Round) | ESPN2

Worst rule in all sports

We know what a clear fumble looks like. Jeremiah's wasn't that.
This play has me worked up.
This reminds me of instant replay in baseball. Well, in all sports, but baseball, especially. And I'm not really a baseball fan. Not really. But before instant replay, there was no whining about a runner stealing second, and then... did his hand slide off the base a couple of milliseconds before his body hit the base? Whoa! He's out for those 10 thousandths of a second. Eff that. Imagine Cris Carter running into the endzone like that - does anyone even question it? No, because there's no replay.
I like replay and I want to make sure the final call is the correct one. Was it a catch or not? Did the ball go over the line or not? Did the ball carrier's knee hit the ground or not? Get the right call.
But more than that, in Buckeneye's words, "We know what a clear fumble looks like. Jeremiah's wasn't that."
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Worst rule in all sports

See; Blount, Rose Bowl.
So, my point is that it is a stupid rule. I'm not talking about specifics. I don't care if Ohio State, or the Browns, or anyone else I might be rooting for, benefits from it 100 times and never, ever gets boned by it. It is a stupid rule. I've never heard anyone say one reason why it should be a rule.
If I fumble on the opponent's 20 and it goes out of bounds at the 15, I get the ball at the 20.
If I fumble on the opponent's 10 and it goes out of bounds at the 7, I get the ball at the 10.
If I fumble on the opponent's 4 and it goes out of bounds at the 1, I get the ball at the 4.
If I fumble on the opponent's 2 and it goes out the side or back of the endzone, my opponent gets the ball at the 20.
Show me the logic.

Jeremiah's bobble wasn't a fumble at all, and the whole "controversy" is absurd. Preliminarily, since he'd clearly established possession and control well before the bobble, none of the rules about whether something is a catch apply (I know we all know this but it those rules seem to have been in some commentators minds). Then, if a player is carrying the ball in the field of play but never actually loses it (i.e. it hits the turf or another player grabs it out of the air), it's not recorded as a fumble or as any kind of loss of possession. Smith bobbled the ball, but he never lost possession of it by fumbling it.
Again, I'm talking about the general rule, itself. But, as it applies to this specific case, I agree with you. He doesn't need to "re-receive" the ball. He doesn't need to get the ball and then 2 feet down. He's already caught the ball. All he needs to do now is have the ball in the theoretical infinite space above the endzone, like when a ball carrier extends the ball over the pylon.
And your point of "control" is excellent. I know soccer and football are different. Basketball and football are different. But every time a player dribbles the ball, has he lost control? No... unless it's me, I suppose.

Back to Buckeneye's post:
Letter of the law vs spirit of the law.
This is it, for me. If the defender had punched the ball out and it goes out the back of the endzone, fine. Stupid rule, but at least it's a real fumble.
If Smith had stepped out at the 1, no one would have thought twice about that play or the bobble or anything. But he goes into and out the side of the endzone, and it's now a "controversy".

And, trust me, I'm way more annoyed that this is a rule than I am about Smith's "controversy". Even if they had called it a fumble and the cheaters get the ball at the 20, I'd still be more annoyed about the rule than I would be about that specific play.
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OC/WR Coach Brian Hartline (National Champion, HC at USF, Buckeye OC for this postseason)

Yes, yes we know how clutch Hartline was as a receiver here. We also know very well his prowess developing WRs… But damn has he come a long way as a coordinator. He’s gotten so creative in his play calling schemes and really has helped bring the run game along.

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Play Game Weekly Upset Contest for 2025 (won by tugger5000)

FINAL WEEK COMING for the contest, it goes through the CCGs.

Those scoring points this week:

thackattack………………....13.5…….CAL/smu
808 Buck……………………..13.5

MD Buckeye..………………...8.5…...ga southern/MARSHALL
tugger5000……………………6.5……troy/SO MISS
wolves2002……………………2.5……vandy/TENNESSEE

Other upsets this week which nobody picked:

toledo/CENT MICH…..……..10
uab/TULSA………….…………8.5
army/UTSA…………………….7.5
navy/MEMPHIS………………..5.5
KENT ST/northern ill…………5
middle tenn/NEW MEX ST…..4
clemson/S CAROLINA……….2.5
houston/BAYLOR……………..2.5
la tech/MO ST…………………2.5
JAX ST/western ky………..…2.5
ark st/APP ST…………………2.5
TEXAS/atm…………………….2
NEW MEXICO/san diego st…1

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Current standings:

tugger5000…….…….….....74.…(Gonna be awful tough to catch)
Akron-Buck………………..54.5
muffler dragon………….…54.5
MD Buckeye……………….53
808 Buck……………………52.5
Honor&Glory………………48.5
BB73………………………..48.5
thackattack………………..42.5
osugrad21………………….42.5
Illini Dylan..…………….….41.5
AuTx Buckeye…………….41
tOSURox…………………..40.5
BigWoof31…………………39.5
Steve19…………………….39

WoodyWorshiper.....…......36.5
Captain Buckeye…………36.5
BuckeyeNation27……...…36
brodybuck21………………36
Bestbuck36………………..35
gracelhink………………….34.5
Zurp…………………………33.5
heisman……………………32.5

buckeyemania11…………30.5
Fungo Squiggly………......29.5
gregorylee…………..…….28.5

wolves2002………………..28
iambrutus………………….26.5
Bucklion……………….…..24.5
HineyBuck…………….…..24
Wadcutter…………………23.5
dozenmonkeyz…………..23
Mike80…………………….22.5
Bborg140………………….21
Wingate1217……………..20.5
CMic……………………….19.5
ScriptOhio……………...…19
Kevin……………………….17.5
TDunk……………….…..….16.5
gmen6981………………….15.5

buckeyboy.........................11.5
cincibuck………...……........8.5
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This week’s games will be posted by sometime on Wednesday.

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B1G CCG: #1 tOSU vs #2 Indiana in Indy, Sat. Dec 6th, 8 ET on FOX

Ryan Day has overcome the demon inside. He is now achieving his full form and will lay waste to CFB as we know it. Hold your loved ones dear. Say things left unsaid. Set a fire in your hearths and lock your doors. The season of the reaper is upon us. Let not your faith falter. Set your clocks to dynasty time. For it has been foretold by the ancient bearded one. (Me)

You have been warned.
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