DaddyBigBucks said:

I did not do this

I worked 40 hours a week and took a full load of classes

I had to just to get by. Even though my parents didn’t help me at all, my father made too much for me to get a federal grant in year one. I made too much money to get a federal grant thereafter.

Sound like an easy trap to fall into? It was. That’s why I wasn’t alone. Lots of people were in that boat. All you had to do was tell the truth on your financial aid forms. Then, while you’re walking to work on a Saturday (a car is way outside your budget), you get to hear a frat boy bragging to a sun bathing hottie that he’d just put a car stereo in his BMW with his Pell Grant

Digressions aside, I promise you that no one who was working full time while taking a full load of classes gives a single fig about the History of Art. Education for the sake of education is still an extremely elitist commodity. It’s one of the things that makes elites think they’re better than the rest of us.

Better at what? I’ve never been able to ascertain that. Unless perhaps rigging the system is considered…. They’re running the university system into the ground and pricing it to the point where it is now far more expensive than it’s worth… yeah. That’s a feature. Not a bug

As for learning things “from Google”. There are better ways of learning things from the internet, and some of those can even result in credentials, including the credentials that have made me more money than my BSEE ever did. These alternative sources of education and credentialing are starting to replace the university system, and the people at the helm of the university system have done this to themselves

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pnuts34 said:

I think many fans are still under the impression that recruiting is still like it was 5-10yrs ago, and the National champion should just clean up in recruiting and stockpile talent like Bama under Saban and UF under Meyer. And that's just not the case anymore. And it's weird to me, because its all adults who have actual adult jobs not understanding how much throwing dollars at a person can alter their decisions. If Company A offered $80k/yr and you like everything about the company, but Company B offered you $200k/yr and you just thought the company culture was just alright. Idk a person alive that would pass up the $200k salary. It's no different in the recruiting age with NIL. Without NIL, OSU would've cleaned up in recruiting the last few years. But the reality is, programs get desperate and their fans want some type of results. And if you can't buy wins, you can sure as heck buy talent, and keep those fans happy for a time being. Miami fans are angry at their results on the field, but they're not loudly mad at their staff because they've landed a good amount of 5star talent. OSU fans are up in arms mad because they keep missing on the same 5star talent, because their program refuses to get in the desperation game. 1 program has just won the NC, and has one of the highest win percentages in CFB history, the other can't even win the Pop Tarts bowl. Which team would you rather be a fan of?

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CincyInterloper said:

Is the new facility really better than what OSU has, or just newer? Anyway you slice it, $134,000,000 seems like a shit-ton of money. No idea where they are getting it.

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pnuts34 said:

I think many fans are still under the impression that recruiting is still like it was 5-10yrs ago, and the National champion should just clean up in recruiting and stockpile talent like Bama under Saban and UF under Meyer. And that's just not the case anymore. And it's weird to me, because its all adults who have actual adult jobs not understanding how much throwing dollars at a person can alter their decisions. If Company A offered $80k/yr and you like everything about the company, but Company B offered you $200k/yr and you just thought the company culture was just alright. Idk a person alive that would pass up the $200k salary. It's no different in the recruiting age with NIL. Without NIL, OSU would've cleaned up in recruiting the last few years. But the reality is, programs get desperate and their fans want some type of results. And if you can't buy wins, you can sure as heck buy talent, and keep those fans happy for a time being. Miami fans are angry at their results on the field, but they're not loudly mad at their staff because they've landed a good amount of 5star talent. OSU fans are up in arms mad because they keep missing on the same 5star talent, because their program refuses to get in the desperation game. 1 program has just won the NC, and has one of the highest win percentages in CFB history, the other can't even win the Pop Tarts bowl. Which team would you rather be a fan of?

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buckeyemania11 said:

We still have a top 3 class in terms of player quality currently even with the "misses". Some of our fan base wants to act like this type of thing is only happening to Ohio State, the other true top schools are getting bag swooped too. Its frustrating it keeps happening to us specifically at one position but in the end the coaches have shown they know what they are doing and I trust they will figure it out.

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calibuck said:

Super! Now college football will be like racing, and pro golf! Soon to see football unis with fabric softener adorning them.....maybe U of Miami can have bail bondsmen logos prominently displayed?

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buckeyemania11 said:

Yea that's likely exactly what it is, the timing of them starting to throw crazy money left and right is rather conveniently lining up with everything. Even if the NCAA lets them off light I get the feeling this class still doesn't hold up for them, the NIL promises are getting so grand that some of them are bound to fall apart.

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osuvictory1 said:

It makes sense if you think about it. They have some major infractions coming, and this is the way to keep up appearances, and the image of stability. If you seen as down, you are down.

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bucknut11 said:

Same school as WR Phillip Bell

(and DE Ryan Williams for the older guys)

edit: not old like @BB73

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buckeyemania11 said:

I could be wrong but im gonna guess this is more Michigan offering a insane amount rather than us being extreme penny pinchers.

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Mike80 said:

What 11 said - TCUN is having to offer up so much in NIL right now it's not prudent or logical to even bother trying to keep up. Look at the storm clouds around that program - no matter what the NCAA ends up doing to them, they are deficit spending just to get people.

The recruiting is fine - people freaking out over 17 year olds who are getting millions are hilarious.

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Jaxbuck said:

I can understand making federal loans non exempt.

Protecting private lenders is just so blatantly corrupt it makes my teeth hurt. Anyone naive enough to think that big government is a good idea because they have our best interest at heart should look at this timeline and no, it isn't a party line thing. Clinton and W both oversaw parts of it.

Consumer protection act...

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