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Should semipro/college players be paid, or allowed to sell their stuff? (NIL and Revenue Sharing)

The difference is we can’t spend our money over the $20M cap. We have to spend donations beyond that. So it’s less about franchise value/ media rights/ merch sales/ fan base and more about big dollar donors, particularly billionaires.

Even when you dig into billionaires guys like Phil knight ($35B) could drop $40-50M a year and it’s pocket change. Mark cuban at $6B has more of a limit where $20-30M might be hard to sustain. Matt Campbell at TTech is probably in the 5-10B range. Even if we were to get a guy like LeBron at $1.5B $20M a year would be a lot. Not bad if it were a 1 time donation, but the schools need that money every year and that’s a lot to ask. Particularly when most of their assets likely aren’t liquid.

OSU has a supposedly great business school. If the people inside of it can't figure out a way to make a profitable business venture out of this that oh-by-the-way is based on the first or second most valuable sports franchise in CFB then they shouldn't be able to hold their head up on campus.

Look at what the Guggenheim group is doing with the Dodgers in MLB for starters. It's a lot more than just dumb luck of being in the L.A. tv market and think to ourselves "How do we build an eco system that creates non-capped advantages to the OSU football franchise"? We need to quit thinking in such linear terms as "donate money to the NIL fund."


I would take advantage of a huge alumni base that didn't have the black swan billionaire and make the Buckeye Venture fund. People invest rather than donate. It needs to be successful obviously but given that it is-you have cap workaround #1- offer players an equity share and or get paid to advertise for it. It would invest in many things (like all the midwest tech hub stuff in Columbus) but for sure I'd look at doing these:

Real estate development: Olentangy district development-get into the land development business as part of the Buckeye Venture fund.

Media: Create a direct to public media company that gets around the shared BTN/FOX money. Distribute content directly to consumers, Netfilx etc etc

Marketing company: They are doing this with the uniform patch project. When a player signs with OSU he gets to participate in the "Buckeye sports group" or whatever you call it. The money earned off the brand is for OSU only and is distributed around the cap, directly to players. Also what I feel we are lite on is marketing the NIL value of our guys more aggressively. I mean the real NIL value, not this fake donation/write off shit. Continue it for them after OSU...become a sports agency inside our version of Guggenheim.

Last but not least, look at the deferral play the Dodgers are using. Your investments from alumni/public give you a "float" use it, make it grow and then pay players more but later. It's a trade off as old as time and it works for both parties.

They need to stop fucking around and trying to compete under the old system of a University's hierarchy. It creates blind spots, mis-alignment and lethargy. Like it or not, you are in a different environment now. Adapt or die.
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CB Dominick Kelly (Official Thread)

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I was big fan of Scott, when he became a Buckeye, but if this is who OG Walt chose to replace him. Then he may have hit a homerun. And I feel even more comfortable with saying this after seeing what @BigWoof31 wrote
One thing that tends to ring true, those that succeed at IMG, tend to succeed in college. These are kids that have essentially been in a college style system, on and off the field. They already see the business aspect, along with playing football at a very high level mixed with being in school
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Koi Perich (S Minnesota, transfer to Oregon)

Juist sayin': S/I isn't sure that it was all about the money......:lol:

Koi Perich's decision to transfer to Oregon feels messy

Perich will play in the Big Ten next season, but he will not be wearing maroon and gold.

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Everyone in the great state of Minnesota seems to have an opinion on Koi Perich's decision to transfer to Oregon.

When Perich opted to stay home and play for his hometown Gophers in the 2024 high school recruiting class, he immediately became a hometown hero. According to 247Sports, he's the second-highest-ranked recruit to ever sign with Minnesota in the internet era. He turned down offers from top programs such as Ohio State, USC and Florida State to represent his home state. Roughly 25 months later, he decided to transfer to Oregon, so what happened?

Perich immediately lived up to his hype as a true freshman. He finished the 2024 season with 46 total tackles, five interceptions, and more than 500 yards as a punt and kick returner combined. He was named first-team All-Big Ten, and many viewed him as one of the top freshmen in the entire sport.

The hype grew even more before the 2025 season. He debuted a split practice jersey during spring ball, and Minnesota teased an offensive role for Perich as a sophomore. He became the talk of the town, and he was acting like it.

When asked in July if he grew up watching college football, he responded saying, "I would just skip through college if I could and just gone straight to the Vikings, but you've got to do your three years, and I am willing to do it."

He looked like a superstar, he was being covered like a superstar and he was acting like a superstar. But his production was simply not at a superstar level in 2025. He had 23 missed tackles, which was 17 more than his mark as a true freshman; he muffed a pivotal punt in the Cal game, and his offensive role resulted in just seven receptions for 89 yards, most of which came in the bowl game against New Mexico.

After an objectively disappointing 2025 season, he opted to hit the transfer portal and join Big Ten superpower Oregon, which was the type of program and opportunity he turned down as a high school recruit 24 months earlier.
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It has been nearly two weeks since Perich initially revealed his plans to enter the transfer portal, and there has been no public comment from him, P.J. Fleck or the Gophers football team. It feels like a rather abrupt end to a career that once looked like it would be historic at the University of Minnesota.

Was his decision because of money? Did he want a chance to play in the College Football Playoff? Or did his time at Minnesota just reach a breaking point? We might never know the real answer, but that's the modern world of college athletics.

It shouldn't come as a huge surprise that Perich wanted to transfer to a program like Oregon. They play on a much bigger stage than a program like Minnesota, and they have substantially more to offer, financially. It also shouldn't come as a surprise that Gophers fans are angry; they have every right to be.
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Ole Miss Rebels (official thread)

Lawyers for QB Trinidad Chambliss sue NCAA in Mississippi court

Lawyers representing Ole Miss quarterback Trinidad Chambliss sued the NCAA on Friday, asking a judge in the Chancery Court of Lafayette County, Mississippi, for preliminary and permanent injunctions that would allow him to play one more season for the Rebels.

The NCAA denied Chambliss a waiver for a sixth year of eligibility on Jan. 9, ruling that Ole Miss officials and Chambliss didn't provide adequate medical evidence by a treating physician that showed he was suffering from an "incapacitating injury or illness," which is required for approval of a waiver.

Chambliss claimed he dealt with persistent respiratory issues as a sophomore at Division II Ferris State in 2022, which is why he didn't play that season.

"In Trinidad's case, the NCAA failed in its mission to foster his well-being and development as a student-athlete," the lawsuit says. "The mechanisms (i.e., waiver rules) for granting Trinidad an additional year of eligibility -- so that he has the opportunity to compete in four years of college football -- are available and within the NCAA's control.

"Despite the duty of good faith and fair dealing it owes Trinidad, the NCAA insists on considering the evidence in Trinidad's case in an isolated, rather than comprehensive, manner; interpreting its rules to impose requirements not contained therein; taking unreasonable if not irrational positions; and acting in an arbitrary and capricious manner in its decision-making and ruling."
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Chambliss has already signed to play for the Rebels in 2026. His deal, including incentives, might be worth as much as $6 million, according to sources.

The case differs in that most lawsuits filed by players wanting an additional year of eligibility have been filed in federal courts and allege the NCAA violated federal antitrust laws. (Note: Like Ohio State basketball player Puff Johnson's case).

"We're not challenging the legality of any NCAA rules," Mars told ESPN on Friday. "To the contrary, we're asking that they be applied as written based on the totality of the circumstances, as required by internal NCAA policy, without ignoring certain evidence, misconstruing other evidence, and using arbitrary and tortured interpretations of the language the NCAA used to create the rules."
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Should semipro/college players be paid, or allowed to sell their stuff? (NIL and Revenue Sharing)

Please throw this in the MLB or Reds forum.

As it pertains to CFB...this is why I get stuck when I hear smaller teams can out spend a team with a fanbase and franchise value like OSU.

I know Billionaire fanboy and all that but it shouldn't be able to happen if you run it like a pro sports business.

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2) Development projects around the stadium
3) Ticket sales and concessions
4) merchandise

We don't get a disproportionate slice of the BTN money (iirc) but it's a huge slug of money that the billionaire fanboys should have to overcome with money they have to spend out of their own pocket. The ROI of that (tax loss write off aside) should have to start showing up.
The difference is we can’t spend our money over the $20M cap. We have to spend donations beyond that. So it’s less about franchise value/ media rights/ merch sales/ fan base and more about big dollar donors, particularly billionaires.

Even when you dig into billionaires guys like Phil knight ($35B) could drop $40-50M a year and it’s pocket change. Mark cuban at $6B has more of a limit where $20-30M might be hard to sustain. Matt Campbell at TTech is probably in the 5-10B range. Even if we were to get a guy like LeBron at $1.5B $20M a year would be a lot. Not bad if it were a 1 time donation, but the schools need that money every year and that’s a lot to ask. Particularly when most of their assets likely aren’t liquid.
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QB1 Julian Sayin (All B1G, B1G Frosh of Year, All American, National Frosh of Year, National Champion)

I finally rewatched a bit of the Miami game because it happened to be on and was past the ugly beginning. I was watching Julian play rattled and noticed something that reminded me of a Clarett interview that I saw leading up to this game. He was talking about his strip/steal from Sean Taylor - Clarett said he knew he could make that play because Taylor was wearing a visor which ruins your peripheral vision. It's not something I would thought about before, but maybe pocket passers shouldn't do visors because peripheral vision is pretty damn important when maneuvering the pocket.


Am I missing the Julian Sayin 2026 thread or are we still using this one? Is this the Sayin Heisman media day table?
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Technology Gone Wild: Rise of the Machines

The federal indictment from the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Western District of Pennsylvania alleges that Dadig waged harassment campaigns against women through his social media accounts and a podcast, referring to them as “sluts” and “bitches” — he was apparently trying to launch himself as an influencer in the mold of various manosphere personalities — and menaced some of them in person. Authorities say Dadig was targeting women who rejected his sexual advances, sometimes making explicit references to bodily harm.

Dadig has yet to enter a plea in court. His attorney, Michael Moser, says Dadig is a college-educated professional with “a large, stable, supportive, and loving family who are very concerned about his health and well-being.” He notes that prior to the charges now pending against him, Dadig “has never been arrested or been in trouble with the law.”

“As his counsel, I look forward to defending Mr. Dadig and protecting his constitutionally guaranteed rights in this matter,” Moser adds. “I hope that the public and all involved will withhold judgment and vitriol as this case moves forward.” Moser did not respond to requests for comment on other details of Dadig’s activities described in this article.

According to a former friend who spoke with Rolling Stone, as Dadig publicly aired his grievances against women, he also developed an obsession with ChatGPT, the large language model from OpenAI. For months, this individual and others who personally knew Dadig maintained group chats in which they documented what they viewed as his increasingly disturbing online behavior, preserving dozens of posts from his Instagram accounts (at least two have since been removed from the platform).

Rolling Stone has reviewed these materials as well as episodes of Dadig’s podcast, which is still available via Spotify. Across his social channels, Dadig frequently spoke about ChatGPT, and screenshots of his interactions with the bot provide a novel dimension to his case. They appear to expose aspects of his mindset and motives, not to mention the way that AI tools can reinforce our worst instincts at moments when human intervention is desperately needed. As his actions started landing him in serious trouble, Dadig would simply turn to ChatGPT to prove to himself that he was in the right — and the rest of the world was wrong.

“Anyone who reached out to him out of concern got told they were jealous or a hater,” says Gary, the ex-friend of Dadig’s who provided Rolling Stone with content from his deleted social accounts as well as evidence of their past social ties. (The two men are both from Pittsburgh and close in age, but “Gary” is a pseudonym used at the request of this source.) “He seemed to be very sure he was perfect and better than everyone else and no one else could deal with it,” Gary adds.

Fueling that overconfidence, by all appearances, was ChatGPT, which in one exchange cited in the indictment told Dadig that his “haters” were “building a voice in you that can’t be ignored.”
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