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2025 Cotton Bowl: #2 tOSU vs #10 Miami-FL, Wed 12/31 7:30 ET at JerryWorld

He needs to show a willingness to run when he has the need and opportunity. He has to keep the ad honest and exploit that opening instead of throwing a 0 gain pass or taking a sack. Just the threat can open things up and get crucial first downs.
I think he can run, it just the 3rd option for him now. Training and experience.
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2025 Cotton Bowl: #2 tOSU vs #10 Miami-FL, Wed 12/31 7:30 ET at JerryWorld

The thing is I think Julian can run. He just doesn’t because that’s not his best feature.

Man can’t believe the seasons over.

Similar problem that CJ Stroud had. Can run but won't run. We have seen in the NFL that CJ can really run too.

I have no clue how good or bad of a runner Sayin is since we have barely seen it in game. There are YouTube videos of Sayin doing running jumping throws, he doesn't look that immobile or unathletic.
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2025 Cotton Bowl: #2 tOSU vs #10 Miami-FL, Wed 12/31 7:30 ET at JerryWorld

Also play with urgency next season.

You said it. When we were finally in a war we couldn’t respond.

I realize they want to limit the reps but maybe how you do that is by going up 21-0 in the first? Then you can coast.

When you have no fast ball to your change up then that’s a bad deal
Consequence of a head coach calling plays while trying to handle all the other shit happening concurrently.
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2025 Cotton Bowl: #2 tOSU vs #10 Miami-FL, Wed 12/31 7:30 ET at JerryWorld

But if you know he is not a running QB...unlike most of the last QBs at OSU..
He needs to show a willingness to run when he has the need and opportunity. He has to keep the ad honest and exploit that opening instead of throwing a 0 gain pass or taking a sack. Just the threat can open things up and get crucial first downs.
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2025 Cotton Bowl: #2 tOSU vs #10 Miami-FL, Wed 12/31 7:30 ET at JerryWorld

Unless the QB can run. IIRC the offense opened up more last year once Howard started running for first downs. But Julian's wheels seem pretty slow. He would have had running room with all that space miami's D left in the middle in the first half. Of course just putting a receiver there would have also worked.

I also think the middle of the field is left open because they aren't running crossing routes like before. It was a staple of Days offense before. Maybe they don't run them because of Sayin's height. Sayin is the smallest QB they have had since Day has been here and the crossing routes just seem to disappear even though they were some of the most effective plays in Day's offense.
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2025 Cotton Bowl: #2 tOSU vs #10 Miami-FL, Wed 12/31 7:30 ET at JerryWorld

Didn’t get to watch the game but had a bad feeling going into it. The whole “we are keeping it in second gear until the games matter” narrative took a hit after Indiana and died tonight; offense just was not good enough full stop. Needed to take training wheels off of Sayin earlier and let him have growing pains. Still a good year and I’m not nearly in the same negative headspace as after last years loss to TTUN but they need to take a good long look at next years offense and how they can have an identity. I don’t want to see any more CJ Donaldson runs for 1 yd in 13 personnel. You play your best and force others to adapt to you. Need an identity and I just haven’t known what ours is all season long.
Also play with urgency next season.

You said it. When we were finally in a war we couldn’t respond.

I realize they want to limit the reps but maybe how you do that is by going up 21-0 in the first? Then you can coast.

When you have no fast ball to your change up then that’s a bad deal
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2025 Cotton Bowl: #2 tOSU vs #10 Miami-FL, Wed 12/31 7:30 ET at JerryWorld

Didn’t get to watch the game but had a bad feeling going into it. The whole “we are keeping it in second gear until the games matter” narrative took a hit after Indiana and died tonight; offense just was not good enough full stop. Needed to take training wheels off of Sayin earlier and let him have growing pains. Still a good year and I’m not nearly in the same negative headspace as after last years loss to TTUN but they need to take a good long look at next years offense and how they can have an identity. I don’t want to see any more CJ Donaldson runs for 1 yd in 13 personnel. You play your best and force others to adapt to you. Need an identity and I just haven’t known what ours is all season long on offense.
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2025 Cotton Bowl: #2 tOSU vs #10 Miami-FL, Wed 12/31 7:30 ET at JerryWorld

Unless the QB can run. IIRC the offense opened up more last year once Howard started running for first downs. But Julian's wheels seem pretty slow. He would have had running room with all that space miami's D left in the middle in the first half. Of course just putting a receiver there would have also worked.
Another Day tendency. Not running his QB's to keep them from getting injured, then when he really needs them to run, they aren't practiced at it. A catch 22.

Either way the chances of losing increase at some point doing it that way. Sucks
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2025 Cotton Bowl: #2 tOSU vs #10 Miami-FL, Wed 12/31 7:30 ET at JerryWorld

Unless the QB can run. IIRC the offense opened up more last year once Howard started running for first downs. But Julian's wheels seem pretty slow. He would have had running room with all that space miami's D left in the middle in the first half. Of course just putting a receiver there would have also worked.
But if you know he is not a running QB...unlike most of the last QBs at OSU..
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2025 Cotton Bowl: #2 tOSU vs #10 Miami-FL, Wed 12/31 7:30 ET at JerryWorld

Don't know decades but clearly a problem up front. You can have world class runners and receivers but if there are no holes or protection, it means nothing.
Unless the QB can run. IIRC the offense opened up more last year once Howard started running for first downs. But Julian's wheels seem pretty slow. He would have had running room with all that space miami's D left in the middle in the first half. Of course just putting a receiver there would have also worked.
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2025 Cotton Bowl: #2 tOSU vs #10 Miami-FL, Wed 12/31 7:30 ET at JerryWorld

This is what amazes me about Saban. Sure he cheated like hell but he dealt with attrition so often and so well that he rarely missed a beat year after year
He drove people, and was not the one being driven.
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2025 Cotton Bowl: #2 tOSU vs #10 Miami-FL, Wed 12/31 7:30 ET at JerryWorld

I saw this coming, which is why I mentioned the non-zero probability. Their linemen are huge and their play on both sides of the ball surprised me in their last two games. Ohio State spent the year being told they were the only team without weakness. And Hartline’s inability to give 100% was just such a blow. A great year but much work to do in the off-season. Disappointing.
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2025 Cotton Bowl: #2 tOSU vs #10 Miami-FL, Wed 12/31 7:30 ET at JerryWorld

I love Day, and think he is a fantastic coach. It is times like this, that frustrate me to no end and I don't understand his tendencies at all.

The constant times when games have been lost because of special team, and other than firing Parker Fleming, not making any effort to improve or spend a little money to get better kickers is mind boggling. It is literally ending seasons. There is no room to be nice.

The other issue is him having to call plays where he has to do things by committee, thereby slowing things down and a inability to make fast decisions quickly.

He was so awesome last season when he was a manager. Making sure all the cogs moved correctly.

Literally, it is well known that statistically head coaches that call plays rarely win it all.

These are conversations we have had before., yet we end up here again.

I thought last season after winning the natty because he was a manager, and pushing buttons, would mean that he would never want to lose that feeling and grow from it.

Yet here were are again, and I don't get it at all.

I realize that Hartline was a huge distraction.

In this new year, let's hope for changing tendencies. I know I have some myself to change.
Defense overall played well last 2 games but when they were absolutely needed they could not get off the field
Yeah I have to say. When we needed the defense they failed in the end. Sucks man.

If you think of the starters are we really the best assembled defense? No likely not. We are very good but we were very top heavy with 4 first rounders. But other than that how deep was this defense? The other three DL were fine but not spectacular and the other 3 in the secondary were fine but not spectacular.

Hard lesson to learn but what this showed was imo we weren’t as good as we thought. Because simply Miami was not some juggernaut.

As for Ryan day- he needed to take over. We already were struggling on offense so him allowing Hart to run it off the cliff was not an acceptable choice.

Ryan Day needs to go get the offensive version of Marty P.
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2025 Cotton Bowl: #2 tOSU vs #10 Miami-FL, Wed 12/31 7:30 ET at JerryWorld

This is what amazes me about Saban. Sure he cheated like hell but he dealt with attrition so often and so well that he rarely missed a beat year after year
Saban would have told Hartline get out. thanks for your service here.
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2025 Cotton Bowl: #2 tOSU vs #10 Miami-FL, Wed 12/31 7:30 ET at JerryWorld

Total team loss imimho
Not sure I agree. I think we lost where it mattered most and that’s up front.

That said, we threw a pick 6 on second down inside the red zone, lost the turnover battle, lost the penalties too.

Miami did what teams do when they win. They won the turnover battle, they didn’t make mistakes, and they won the LOS.

It’s sort of a miracle it was even close to be honest
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