Have read within these posts that Diebs is not 'the guy' for us. OK, please expound. Is it the X's and O's, or the Joes? Seems like there are several Mr. Baketball(ers) on the team, and he recruited Amare, no? And now the 5* forward for next year, and yes, I know he lost the 5* guard to S. Carolina, but the recruits are buying what he's selling. So, it's the X's and O's, right? Help me understand. Probably going out on a ledge, but if tOSU performs up to where they are playing, tOSU will make the dance, on Thornton's swan song year. If that happens, believe that more (and better) recruits will step up and stay home? Wouldn't be surprised that the NIL bank will open up a bit more then, and (see prior sentence) will happen. Sounds like more of a chicken and egg thingy. Go Bucks! PS, can I assume that the playoff monies get put in a pot (like football), and split up ala football?

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Well, that didn't take long.

The investigative lawfirm is on the job and has already cleared Moore of all charges related to any form of aggression towards the mistress.

Turns out he had gone to her home soley for the purpose of singing Christmas Carols. During "We wish you a Merry Christmas" he got stuck on the line - "I won't go until I get some", which she completely misunderstood.

The need for a butter knife was to cut the "figgy pudding", which may or may not have been a emphemism.

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Glad you all enjoyed it. Taped the game, and watched eating dinner. But, tape ran out with 4 seconds left in regulation :(. So had to jump on U-tube to see how it came out. Sorry I missed both OTs. Anyway, believe we saw the coming-out party for Amare. Also, didn't think we'd win, as tOSU was missing 'bunnies', while WVA was pouring in 3's like no tomorrow. Heck, I was getting worried. But, to me at least, the difference was NOT, Bruce's lack of points, BUT that unlike Illini game, the Buckeyes MADE their free throws (unlike Illini game). Diebs probably had them make 30 in a row before they could shower, or somesuch. Anyway, great grit. Tilly seemed to play a better game than Knowles (sp?), this game. Do like that rotation (gives us more fouls to use), and now that Amare has 'come out', another option at the 4. PS, haven't seen anyone follow-up dunk like that since, can't remember....and finally, Devin (four fouls and all), was so very effective under the board, where he reverted from a 'strong 3', to a 'weak 4'. All in all, a great game, and hope the Buckeyes can/will build on it. PS, the refs seemed to be making good calls at time, and others not so much. Hate when the refs control the game, but it didn't seem so. PSS, no player EVER thinks they commited a foul....Go Bucks!

Well, that didn't take long.

The investigative lawfirm is on the job and has already cleared Moore of all charges related to any form of aggression towards the mistress.

Turns out he had gone to her home soley for the purpose of singing Christmas Carols. During "We wish you a Merry Christmas" he got stuck on the line - "I won't go until I get some", which she completely misunderstood.

The need for a butter knife was to cut the "figgy pudding", which may or may not have been a emphemism.

Recollect that every tOSU coach made a stop at St. Henry, to recruit their best and finest. These days, maybe not so much. But in it's day, St. Henry was every bit a viable pipeline as Glenville. Glenville has survived, and continues to produce D-1 players (most of whom matriculate to tOSU), versus St. Henry, seems not so much. Have no doubt that alot/many of the St. Henry grads get football scholarships, just not so many get one from tOSU. Just my opinion, and being a slave to recruiting.

Ahhh, so many choices out there. tOSU's OL seems to be returning all (Tegra?), but the misgotten transfer from Rice. (kinda hard for me to tell, as many articles give their years spent, instead of eligibility). Does Day & Co hire a 90%er, or stick with the 80%er on the bench? Meaning talent level, experience etc). Being recruited over, to my way of thinking, would signal that I was not making enough progress, and might hasten my departure, if I was butt-hurt enough. With such a short shelflife, could very easily see it happening.

After re-reading other's threads. This is Hartline's coaching start, as the big dog, not position coach, where he made his bones. Like many of you, wonder (this year), how much Hartline actually called the game, with Day standing over his shoulder, and most probably, nixing some of his calls, with his own if didn't agree. That, more than anything, might have pushed Hartline out the door. (would have me). Hartline is starting his coaching ascent, and has gotta win at USF. If he does that, he'll be given/recruited to a larger school on a bigger stage. Suggest you look at Eddie George, who started coaching at a low level, and now is at Bowling Green (a higher level). If he succeeds there, he'll get a shot at a bigger job (maybe in the B10?). Anyway, history is littered with those who succeeded (UFM's ascension from BG to tOSU), and those who failed, (back to being a position coach, or OC/DC). Anyway, wish him well, as he's still a representative of tOSU....and yeah, believe Day should let him go to USF, and not have him divided. He's too fresh a newbie to be able to compartmentalize his roll as OC, and HC. IMHO

Spent a few hours in a tree stand this morning. I can confirm it is cold out there when the wind blows.

Joker face is a total hypocrite for not saying anything until ND gets hurt, but at least he's saying it. In particular, he's calling out the blatant conflict of interest that their financial interest in the SEC creates as well as their undo influence with the cfp committee.


I'm guessing more NBC and FOX talking hairdos won't cross this Rubicon because they don't want to slam the door shut on any potential espn gigs down the road.

Seriously doubt that any player with a chance of being in two deep will follow Hartline to USF. No way, no how. Simply the TV exposure ensures that. But, if the kid is going to transfer anyway, why wouldn't he go be with a coach he's trained under? LK is a likely start for Hartline. Maybe the QB that transferred to South Caroline (?), name escapes me, but xferred when Sayin came on board. Might be another likely one. Yeah, some of the OL guys, haven't quite cut it at tOSU, or have been buried because of someone pushing ahead of them on the roster, certainly. Someone above said it best, if they're gonna Xfer anyway, why not go to USF with Hartline? It's a win-win-win after all. Win for the kid, he can play there. Win for Hartline, because he knows how well the kid's been taught/trained, and win for the Buckeyes, because it opens a roster space for another kid, whether recruit or transfer. And let us not forget, a win for the Buckeyes, because won't have to face them as an opponent. Win a ring on the pine, or play at another school?

Get this Great Value Jersey Shore mf’er out of here. Don’t you got some child support and alimony to pay?

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Thump said:

Woman Broke Up with Sherrone Moore on Monday — Then She Told Michigan Officials About Relationship: Prosecutor

Former Michigan football head coach Moore was charged with felony home invasion and misdemeanor stalking days after he was fired by university

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So she "Took one for the team?"

BuckeyeNation27 said:

That's obviously harmful. The not at all harmful part is what happens now. If players who are already transferring out go to USF, that's not harmful to Ohio State at all.

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Right, which was what at I was taking the conversation to be about.

Hartline getting this opportunity for sure hurts, but we all knew it was going to happen at some point.

Jaxbuck said:

It’s harmful in the sense we lost the best recruiter and developer of talent anyone’s ever seen, for the position that has given the Ryan Day offense such a huge advantage for the past 6 years.

The pipeline is still full but this is the most dangerous assistant coach defection Day has had so far. Maybe ever will have.

It will be a be interesting to see how he manages it.

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That's obviously harmful. The not at all harmful part is what happens now. If players who are already transferring out go to USF, that's not harmful to Ohio State at all.

SEREbuckeye said:

He probably should take KH. He’s not starting over Sayin next year or St Clair the next. Why would you selfishly want a kid to ride the bench here rather than make a name for himself at a directional school?

I would rather him transfer to USF under Hartline than go somewhere like Ga Tech. And if there are any players that were already going to transfer, why not USF as well? This would have been a great position for a guy like Flemming.

I’m not saying we give him Smith or Chris Henry, but there are guys like Bryson Rogers that would benefit.

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I have been on record saying Kenholtz should go to UCF with Frost, or now sure he can go to USF.

My main point is Hartline needs to be thrown into the deep cold water. And he either sinks or swims. No life rafts.

RuGettinIt said:

Yeah I really don’t get the angst TBH. I personally want Hartline to be successful and I don’t see how this is harmful to tOSU.

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It’s harmful in the sense we lost the best recruiter and developer of talent anyone’s ever seen, for the position that has given the Ryan Day offense such a huge advantage for the past 6 years.

The pipeline is still full but this is the most dangerous assistant coach defection Day has had so far. Maybe ever will have.

It will be a be interesting to see how he manages it.

TampaBuckeyes said:

The biggest benefit to going fast is to get the defense on their heals, keep them from getting defensive play calls to the entire team and to keep them from substituting. Playing slow all year and then cranking up the pace in the playoffs can be more beneficial as the game plan for the other team will be expecting the ability to sub at will.

They don’t have to do it the whole game, but if they can do it in 3 drives in the first half it can provide an advantage. That’s if this team is even capable to run it, which they might not be able to do.

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And when it doesn’t work? What is the result in the game then? Tempo alone does not equal success.

Execution was breaking down Saturday night. That is not the condition under which you say “let’s get more volume in” unless you are a bad gambler on tilt.

If you have the skill advantage and you are executing, by all means go faster early in the game and build a lead. It’s situationally dependent but before situation there has to be execution.

SEREbuckeye said:

He probably should take KH. He’s not starting over Sayin next year or St Clair the next. Why would you selfishly rather a kid ride the bench here rather than make a name for himself at a directional school?

I would rather him transfer to USF under Hartline than go somewhere like Ga Tech. And if there are any players that were already going to transfer, why not USF as well? This would have been a great position for a guy like Flemming.

I’m not saying we give him Smith or Chris Henry, but there are guys like Bryson Rogers that would benefit.

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Yeah I really don’t get the angst TBH. I personally want Hartline to be successful and I don’t see how this is harmful to tOSU.

ORD_Buckeye said:

Just took a look at the firm's website. Two co managing partners. Both went to school at tsun. Yeah, this investigation is going to be absolutely legit.

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