buckeyemania11 said:

I think there has to be a real concern for next year. Yea Thompson is a very high level HS recruit but even if he performs at a high level that won't be enough to carry the whole team. Replacing Bruce is going to be a near impossible task unless they get lucky.

Other guys who have eligibility left may be easily tempted to move on to elsewhere as well due to the lack of winning here.

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LOL @ easily tempted due to lack of winning. If they have even an ounce of self-awareness, they will be able to notice our last transfers Meechie, Bradshaw and Stewart did not move to more winning programs. I don't think any of these guys would be able to start for a program that is much more successful than OSU this season.

Yeah, replacing Bruce is going to suck, but for now the hope is that a transfer who's worthy of being a starter will notice there is an opening for a starter at guard. I can't see them not adding another starting-caliber guard.

Tanner said:

Diebler never should have been hired and should be fired

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Sad thing is, I can't even get upset enough to get to that place. We're going on, what? Year eleven, twelve of irrelevance? The Diebler hire signaled to be the AD is fine with a mediocre product. The football program reels in money hand over fist, for whatever reason the powers that be just don't want to invest in the basketball program. Until they do, why should most of us care?

Natalie Spooner had a goal for the Canadians today. That's three goals and about a half dozen assists for the Buckeyes already.

DZ83CK said:

Which question, why will people spend? I think the issue is partly OSU being the problem last year (and Diebler being new a problem his first year), so that's part of why I have some hope for next season being different. I suspect more money could have been there for Diebler to spend last year but OSU got in the way due to compliance concerns - how much more is probably enough to upgrade some areas, not saying they'd be a B1G contender, but they should have had more contributors.

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I think there has to be a real concern for next year. Yea Thompson is a very high level HS recruit but even if he performs at a high level that won't be enough to carry the whole team. Replacing Bruce is going to be a near impossible task unless they get lucky.

Other guys who have eligibility left may be easily tempted to move on to elsewhere as well due to the lack of winning here.

Guess which team has the largest positive scoring margin per game in college basketball as of today???




That would be the 23-1 St Louis Billikens!

otisu said:

If Diebler had May’s NIL resources, we may not be a top 5 team but we would be a top 15 team.

How many Buckeye’s would be starting on May’s roster today?

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That's spot-on. We had Roddy Gayle starting for us all season his sophomore year. He's been coming off the bench at UM all season and didn't start part of last season, either. He averaged 13.5 ppg his last year at OSU, then after the transfer he's averaged 9.8 and now 8.3 ppg. He averaged 30 minutes his sophomore year with OSU, 26 last season, and now 21. Meechie, Bradshaw and Stewart all transferred and any statistical "improvement" they've made is because they are on teams nowhere near an at-large (i.e., far worse than OSU was last year). Okpara is providing similar stats at Tennessee as he did at OSU, 6.6 ppg this season in about 2 more minutes per than he played his sophomore year. If we're being honest, other than Bruce, none of these guys would be leaders elsewhere.

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@BB73 ’s mom flushed it down the toilet as a guppy thinking it was dead.

ORD_Buckeye said:

I will go to my grave wanting to have thrown Harbaugh's cheating ass out of a helicopter while yelling, "who's got it better than you, Jim."

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He’s got that crazy ass ‘tard strength.

He’d probably bounce twice and walk away.

buckeyemania11 said:

Not just fan enthusiasm any enthusiasm anywhere. The AD proved they have zero care about the basketball program when they just handed the Keys to Diebler. You expect pockets to open when the AD doesn't even give a crap? You still avoid the question and can't give any real defense to the lazy hire.

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Which question, why will people spend? I think the issue is partly OSU being the problem last year (and Diebler being new a problem his first year), so that's part of why I have some hope for next season being different. I suspect more money could have been there for Diebler to spend last year but OSU got in the way due to compliance concerns - how much more is probably enough to upgrade some areas, not saying they'd be a B1G contender, but they should have had more contributors.

buckeyebri said:

If the money is right Deion will take flight.

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He’d chug a cock in the middle of Times Square if the money is right.

jwinslow said:

Pretty sure we were all here before to know that was not true.

"Rutgers day football game" energy, without the ticket purchasing.

Thad did it in spite of that.


That bodes super well for the officially sponsored model of basketball teams.

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When Thad had good teams playing good opponents, the crowds were good. It's hard to quantify how the arena deadened the crowd, but I think that matters in this analysis. He scheduled like 10 guarantee games every season, so naturally fans got tired of seeing non-competitive gimme Ws, but at the end Thad wasn't winning so why would you expect the fans to keep showing up?

Diebler never should have been hired and should be fired

buckeyemania11 said:

I think the lack of NIL support for non football programs reflects the Athletic Departments relative lack of care for non football programs.

If Michigan had gone a Diebler type route they would not be having the same success.

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If Diebler had May’s NIL resources, we may not be a top 5 team but we would be a top 15 team.

How many Buckeyes would be starting on May’s roster today?

buckeyebri said:

The joke is on the NFL. It shows how ridiculous the Pro Bowl is. Just name an All Pro Team per conference and be done with it. If you want to have a Flag Football game as part of SB festivities have some NFL players coach a couple of worthy squads of high schoolers.

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Maybe. But I think it's the NFL's joke on us.

DZ83CK said:

Who cares about fan enthusiasm? Fans are fickle. They will show up when the team starts winning, period.

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Pretty sure we were all here before to know that was not true.

"Rutgers day football game" energy, without the ticket purchasing.

Thad did it in spite of that.


That bodes super well for the officially sponsored model of basketball teams.

otisu said:

Glad someone else understands this. The only way it changes is if donors step up and commit funds to bring in a specific coach.

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I think the lack of NIL support for non football programs reflects the Athletic Departments relative lack of care for non football programs.

If Michigan had gone a Diebler type route they would not be having the same success.

OHSportsFan said:

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For the sister too. Just because.

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Wish me luck, Im headed in..

DZ83CK said:

That's what they're claiming, that another coach would command greater NIL, but that's a sketchy claim. I don't think the NIL-oriented coaches who were floated as possibilities like May and Calipari ever were seriously considering OSU because they couldn't get the spending commitment that they wanted. Another coaching search now changes nothing other than getting the "whipping boy" Diebler out.

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Glad someone else understands this. The only way it changes is if donors step up and commit funds to bring in a specific coach.

DZ83CK said:

I don't like how OSU played today, it seemed like most of those guys were just going through the motions. That being said, UM has spent top-tier NIL funds to buy the best defense they could & had gone 20-1 against everyone else in college basketball this season, so a lot of other teams also didn't solve the problem. I don't think today's performance is the barometer for this OSU team - let's see if it's a one-off or becomes a pattern.

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Lack of effort and what looked like a relative lack of preparation is a reflection of the coach. No matter who the opponent is.

DZ83CK said:

Who cares about fan enthusiasm? Fans are fickle. They will show up when the team starts winning, period.

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Not just fan enthusiasm any enthusiasm anywhere. The AD proved they have zero care about the basketball program when they just handed the Keys to Diebler. You expect pockets to open when the AD doesn't even give a crap? You still avoid the question and can't give any real defense to the lazy hire.

scarletngray said:

GO BUCKS! GO USA!

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I believe every team is made up of Buckeyes or former Buckeyes

buckeyemania11 said:

If you aren't going to get high level NIL then you need a coach who can work well enough and actually with the talent he can get. Diebler so far has not shown that he is that guy. The team is constantly all out of whack on the court with no real direction which is a sign of bad coaching.

I think a more inspiring hire would make things easier. We aren't going to get a Calipari but I'm still waiting for you to explain how just handing the job to the assistant of the failed former coach was supposed to draw ANY enthusiasm?

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Who cares about fan enthusiasm? Fans are fickle. They will show up when the team starts winning, period.

I don't like how OSU played today, it seemed like most of those guys were just going through the motions. That being said, UM has spent top-tier NIL funds to buy the best defense they could & had gone 20-1 against everyone else in college basketball this season, so a lot of other teams also didn't solve the problem. I don't think today's performance is the barometer for this OSU team - let's see if it's a one-off or becomes a pattern.

DZ83CK said:

That's what they're claiming, that another coach would command greater NIL, but that's a sketchy claim. I don't think the NIL-oriented coaches who were floated as possibilities like May and Calipari ever were seriously considering OSU because they couldn't get the spending commitment that they wanted. Another coaching search now changes nothing other than getting the "whipping boy" Diebler out.

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If you aren't going to get high level NIL then you need a coach who can work well enough and actually with the talent he can get. Diebler so far has not shown that he is that guy. The team is constantly all out of whack on the court with no real direction which is a sign of bad coaching.

I think a more inspiring hire would make things easier. We aren't going to get a Calipari but I'm still waiting for you to explain how just handing the job to the assistant of the failed former coach was supposed to draw ANY enthusiasm?