buckeyemania11 said:

Is it? I got the "is this great defense of just bad offense" battle going on. I guess at least it's not a blowout

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I’m enjoying the fuck out of it. Let me tell you why. No KC/Mahomes. No Hurts/Eagles. High profile Buckeyes. Solid strategy between offense and defense

morbitzerker said:

I'd like to know where Jim Tressel is right now!

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Probably trying to get the digits of Seattle's punter

I'd like to know where Jim Tressel is right now!

buckeyemania11 said:

Is it? I got the "is this great defense of just bad offense" battle going on. I guess at least it's not a blowout

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I mean, both defenses were excellent in the regular season. I think it's fair to give them credit

@Tomateaux Quinoa Gumbeaux @Nutriaitch

Come get your boy Will Campbell

Booooooring

buckeyebri said:

Helluva game so far

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Is it? I got the "is this great defense of just bad offense" battle going on. I guess at least it's not a blowout

cincibuck said:

advertisers will come to their senses and realize that spending enormous sums “for 30 seconds of (mostly ignored) exposure is a bad investment.”

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He's giving way too much credit to advertisers.

cincibuck said:

The second requires more teasing out, but to put it simply: Horse racing receded from the American imagination, he writes, because people lost their close everyday connection to horses. Something similar will happen to football. We are already losing our organic connection to it.

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This is more plausible. I think we already see it in CFB with the changes of the past few seasons.

And the NFL has been...off for some time. I think a lot of the gambling and focus on fantasy teams have done it for me personally. Maybe others feel the same or will soon. It's not about the teams but random players performances that most discourse on the NFL centers around these days. I don't play fantasy football and have no interest in it. I imagine that I'm not the only one who feels that way, while I'm sure there are many others who only are interested in football because of fantasy. So it may be a wash in the short term but how much do those fans who only became fans due to fantasy leagues will really stick with the sport like those who just like the game?

Helluva game so far

Zurp said:

Maybe. But I think it's the NFL's joke on us.

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I’ll give you that.

I suppose forces higher up in the University could be the real sabatogers here. Bjork seemed to have zero problem with obnoxious excessive spending at Texas A&M but now all of a sudden it's a problem?

DZ83CK said:

When Thad had good teams playing good opponents, the crowds were good

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Occasionally.
For big games.

. It's hard to quantify how the arena deadened the crowd, but I think that matters in this analysis. He scheduled like 10 guarantee games every season, so naturally fans got tired of seeing non-competitive gimme Ws, but at the end Thad wasn't winning so why would you expect the fans to keep showing up?

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I'm talking about the Thad five to sullinger years. It was alright at best from a support perspective.

Surrendering an amazing home court advantage was a major blunder (to build the second best music venue in town)... but that was a secondary factor. It's a filler sport in Ohio.

It shouldn't be when they're outclassing Indiana and Kentucky basketball ( and frankly OSU football after 06), but it was.

DZ83CK said:

LOL @ easily tempted due to lack of winning. If they have even an ounce of self-awareness, they will be able to notice our last transfers Meechie, Bradshaw and Stewart did not move to more winning programs. I don't think any of these guys would be able to start for a program that is much more successful than OSU this season.

Yeah, replacing Bruce is going to suck, but for now the hope is that a transfer who's worthy of being a starter will notice there is an opening for a starter at guard. I can't see them not adding another starting-caliber guard.

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I'm talking about Royal Mobley and Bynum specifically. Mobley has his bad moments but I'm not sure we can get much better in the portal at this point and I'm sure the poachers are gonna be coming hard for Bynum. Royal I'm sure some team with better outlook would see as a real asset as well. These are guys that we need to retain for a decent enough core.

ORD_Buckeye said:

I will go to my grave wanting to have thrown Harbaugh's cheating ass out of a helicopter while yelling, "who's got it better than you, Jim."

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Go to your grave without having done it?

NFBuck said:

Sad thing is, I can't even get upset enough to get to that place. We're going on, what? Year eleven, twelve of irrelevance? The Diebler hire signaled to be the AD is fine with a mediocre product. The football program reels in money hand over fist, for whatever reason the powers that be just don't want to invest in the basketball program. Until they do, why should most of us care?

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Exactly, the Diebler hire was the AD waving the white flag that they are ok with mediocrity in non football sports. I still care but it's hard to be enthusiastic with that message

buckeyemania11 said:

I think there has to be a real concern for next year. Yea Thompson is a very high level HS recruit but even if he performs at a high level that won't be enough to carry the whole team. Replacing Bruce is going to be a near impossible task unless they get lucky.

Other guys who have eligibility left may be easily tempted to move on to elsewhere as well due to the lack of winning here.

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LOL @ easily tempted due to lack of winning. If they have even an ounce of self-awareness, they will be able to notice our last transfers Meechie, Bradshaw and Stewart did not move to more winning programs. I don't think any of these guys would be able to start for a program that is much more successful than OSU this season.

Yeah, replacing Bruce is going to suck, but for now the hope is that a transfer who's worthy of being a starter will notice there is an opening for a starter at guard. I can't see them not adding another starting-caliber guard.

Tanner said:

Diebler never should have been hired and should be fired

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Sad thing is, I can't even get upset enough to get to that place. We're going on, what? Year eleven, twelve of irrelevance? The Diebler hire signaled to be the AD is fine with a mediocre product. The football program reels in money hand over fist, for whatever reason the powers that be just don't want to invest in the basketball program. Until they do, why should most of us care?

Natalie Spooner had a goal for the Canadians today. That's three goals and about a half dozen assists for the Buckeyes already.

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Which question, why will people spend? I think the issue is partly OSU being the problem last year (and Diebler being new a problem his first year), so that's part of why I have some hope for next season being different. I suspect more money could have been there for Diebler to spend last year but OSU got in the way due to compliance concerns - how much more is probably enough to upgrade some areas, not saying they'd be a B1G contender, but they should have had more contributors.

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I think there has to be a real concern for next year. Yea Thompson is a very high level HS recruit but even if he performs at a high level that won't be enough to carry the whole team. Replacing Bruce is going to be a near impossible task unless they get lucky.

Other guys who have eligibility left may be easily tempted to move on to elsewhere as well due to the lack of winning here.

Guess which team has the largest positive scoring margin per game in college basketball as of today???




That would be the 23-1 St Louis Billikens!

otisu said:

If Diebler had May’s NIL resources, we may not be a top 5 team but we would be a top 15 team.

How many Buckeye’s would be starting on May’s roster today?

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That's spot-on. We had Roddy Gayle starting for us all season his sophomore year. He's been coming off the bench at UM all season and didn't start part of last season, either. He averaged 13.5 ppg his last year at OSU, then after the transfer he's averaged 9.8 and now 8.3 ppg. He averaged 30 minutes his sophomore year with OSU, 26 last season, and now 21. Meechie, Bradshaw and Stewart all transferred and any statistical "improvement" they've made is because they are on teams nowhere near an at-large (i.e., far worse than OSU was last year). Okpara is providing similar stats at Tennessee as he did at OSU, 6.6 ppg this season in about 2 more minutes per than he played his sophomore year. If we're being honest, other than Bruce, none of these guys would be leaders elsewhere.

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@BB73 ’s mom flushed it down the toilet as a guppy thinking it was dead.

ORD_Buckeye said:

I will go to my grave wanting to have thrown Harbaugh's cheating ass out of a helicopter while yelling, "who's got it better than you, Jim."

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He’s got that crazy ass ‘tard strength.

He’d probably bounce twice and walk away.