Fungo Squiggly said:

Oilers tie it up with 18 seconds left! More OT hockey is always a good thing!

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buxfan4life said:

I look at it as a bottomless pit of hatred. No matter how much you hated those fucks before, there is always room for more. My needle doesn't stop. Maybe you should look to upgrade.

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Jaxbuck said:

Did some of you guys actually not hate them this much before all the cheating?

If they get nuked for cheating then great but my hate is kind of like absolute zero. You really can’t move the needle any farther.

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NFBuck said:

I hate them and always have as much as oatmeal raisin cookies.

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Jaxbuck said:

Did some of you guys actually not hate them this much before all the cheating?

If they get nuked for cheating then great but my hate is kind of like absolute zero. You really can’t move the needle any farther.

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ORD_Buckeye said:

I put it this way. Ohio State is always accused of being the football factory, so we bend over backwards not to be one, and there's plenty of evidence: firing Woody, giving Cooper that ridiculously long leash, turning Tressel in when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to bury, Robie & Hyde's suspensions, running Urban off. When I returned to Columbus for a few years in the early 00s, I dated a professor. She and her friends would readily admit that while many of the football players weren't up to snuff academically, they were never given special treatment, and the AD was extremely vigilant about any academic fraud occurring.

Contrast that with tsun. They are both utterly self-obsessed and convinced of their purity. They don't feel any need to "try to not be a football factory" because in the core of their being they couldn't possibly conceive of ever being one and thus coaches in all four major sports have felt the freedom to be the worst hockey, baseball, basketball and football factories they could be. One of their former players actually wrote a book about how rotten the program was under Schembechler.

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Oh8ch said:

Chunky Peanut Butter has its share of problems, but the dog seems to like it.

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pnuts34 said:

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Jaxbuck said:

Did some of you guys actually not hate them this much before all the cheating?

If they get nuked for cheating then great but my hate is kind of like absolute zero. You really can’t move the needle any farther.

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Jaxbuck said:

Did some of you guys actually not hate them this much before all the cheating?

If they get nuked for cheating then great but my hate is kind of like absolute zero. You really can’t move the needle any farther.

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DZ83CK said:

I tell you what, if the apple didn't fall far from the tree, OSU ought to try really hard to recruit this young man. Jason Singleton Sr. stuck through some tough times at OSU and was a key part of the turnaround in 1999. His dad is a good man and if his parenting is anything like his other work, I'm sure Jason Jr. has a bright future. It wasn't a total coincidence the 2000 team, which didn't have Jason Sr., couldn't make a run in the tournament even though they still had stars Michael Redd & Scoonie Penn - every team needs good, solid, strong athletic players to blend in with their stars. The fact that successful programs like Creighton & Purdue have offered young Jason says a lot.

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Jaxbuck said:

Did some of you guys actually not hate them this much before all the cheating?

If they get nuked for cheating then great but my hate is kind of like absolute zero. You really can’t move the needle any farther.

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ORD_Buckeye said:

I put it this way. Ohio State is always accused of being the football factory, so we bend over backwards not to be one, and there's plenty of evidence: firing Woody, giving Cooper that ridiculously long leash, turning Tressel in when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to bury, Robie & Hyde's suspensions, running Urban off. When I returned to Columbus for a few years in the early 00s, I dated a professor. She and her friends would readily admit that while many of the football players weren't up to snuff academically, they were never given special treatment, and the AD was extremely vigilant about any academic fraud occurring.

Contrast that with tsun. They are both utterly self-obsessed and convinced of their purity. They don't feel any need to "try to not be a football factory" because in the core of their being they couldn't possibly conceive of ever being one and thus coaches in all four major sports have felt the freedom to be the worst hockey, baseball, basketball and football factories they could be. One of their former players actually wrote a book about how rotten the program was under Schembechler.

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CincyInterloper said:

Harbaugh takes his chickens to the beach?

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ORD_Buckeye said:

I put it this way. Ohio State is always accused of being the football factory, so we bend over backwards not to be one, and there's plenty of evidence: firing Woody, giving Cooper that ridiculously long leash, turning Tressel in when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to bury, Robie & Hyde's suspensions, running Urban off. When I returned to Columbus for a few years in the early 00s, I dated a professor. She and her friends would readily admit that while many of the football players weren't up to snuff academically, they were never given special treatment, and the AD was extremely vigilant about any academic fraud occurring.

Contrast that with tsun. They are both utterly self-obsessed and convinced of their purity. They don't feel any need to "try to not be a football factory" because in the core of their being they couldn't possibly conceive of ever being one and thus coaches in all four major sports have felt the freedom to be the worst hockey, baseball, basketball and football factories they could be. One of their former players actually wrote a book about how rotten the program was under Schembechler.

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DaddyBigBucks said:

There are several things that make this case unique in NCAA history. But one thing in particular stands out: Victims

The only other scandals that I can think of where there were victims were:
1) Some criminal at an institution victimized other members of the institution or people from the surrounding community (Sandusky et al)
2) The institution broke rules that robbed their own student-athletes of the education that was their only compensation for their skill at the time (North Carolina)

In both of the above cases, the victims were individuals. Not other teams.

OK... sure... when you play ineligible players, the other team has less of a chance of beating you. But to me that really tortures the definition of "victim". When you consider that some of our past All-Americans had stories of not having enough money to do laundry when they were in school (even though their tiny stipend was literally called "laundry money"): it seems clear that some of OSU's best players received no impermissible benefits. So did the players who did receive such benefits only attend Ohio State because of those benefits? I'm sorry, but that beggars belief; especially when those benefits were famously available elsewhere.

Semantics aside, there can be no quibbling about whether there are victims of the Cheaters' scheme. They stole signs from other teams using impermissible means. Then they used those stolen signs to gain a clear, unfair advantage. The people that they scouted and recorded (both of those things being illegal) were thus victimized directly by this scheme. Not some advantage obtained because some schools had more rogue boosters than others... A direct, intentional victimization of one institution by another.

The lengthy missive about what the COI is doing said that they like to check their boxes and stay "within the matrix". How in the blue hell is this anywhere in the vicinity of the matrix? This was not rogue boosters providing a difficult to quantify advantage. This was an institution stealing 3 straight championships when they had only been within sniffing distance of a championship once in the previous 10 season. Whatever precedent they think applies to this; they think wrong. As has been said many times before: There is no precedent. There is no matrix to fill out. This is something completely unique and it calls for a unique response. If it does not receive a unique response; I will officially be done with college football. I'm hanging on by my fingernails as it is.

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sparcboxbuck said:

Pro tip: Coconut oil. Not joking.

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