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QB Cardale '12 Gauge' Jones (B1G Champion, National Champion)

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Michael Bluth said:
If he's going to play, then he should be throwing the ball downfield consistently throughout the game. If we're not going to throw the ball downfield, he should not be starting. This offense has too much talent, and both JT/Cardale have too much talent, for us to settle for simply handing the ball to Zeke 30 times (as some have called for).
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This. I'd like to see Cardale develop his intermediate game though as well. He's got the arm strength and has show flashes time to time, but needs more consistency. Improve his passing game such that his obligatory interception won't hurt that much. And eliminate the exchanges/fumbles/snaps completely.

If we're hoping for him to suddenly become a completely mistake-free game manager... I'm gonna have to restock on liquor. That's just not who he is.
 
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I'm a little bit worried that later in the game, the coaches opted to run the ball to be "safe", instead of throwing the ball trying to get first downs. I guess they were correct, because they won the game, but I find it funny that they had more faith in the Buckeye defense beating Indiana's offense than they did in the Buckeye offense beating Indiana's defense.
 
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Zurp said:
I'm a little bit worried that later in the game, the coaches opted to run the ball to be "safe", instead of throwing the ball trying to get first downs. I guess they were correct, because they won the game, but I find it funny that they had more faith in the Buckeye defense beating Indiana's offense than they did in the Buckeye offense beating Indiana's defense.
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I think that this is the most worrisome thing to me too. They just didn't have confidence in the QB to not make a mistake. This was Tresselball at its finest but with the Offense that we have, Tresselball should never have to rear its ugly head. My opinion of course.
 
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What I find a little alarming is that Cardale is making the same mistakes, holding the ball too long, not reading the defense fast enough, the ball never comes out on time before the receiver makes his break, not stepping up in the pocket, throwing off his back foot, etc. I am starting to wonder how much we are missing Tom Herman as the QB coaching?

I said last year Cardale was getting bailed out by receivers too often. I wasn't one of the guys doing somersaults the last three games over Cardale's incredible QB play. I often said we suck in the RedZone because he cannot scramble, keep plays alive, or run the ball down there when the real estate is tight. Sure he is strong and hard to bring down at times, but I like to have a QB that can hurt you with his legs like Braxton and JT, where you can roll the QB out with an option to run or throw. Or go empty and spread the D out and run the QB. Cardale isn't that type of guy.
 
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osubartender23 said:
I think that this is the most worrisome thing to me too. They just didn't have confidence in the QB to not make a mistake. This was Tresselball at its finest but with the Offense that we have, Tresselball should never have to rear its ugly head. My opinion of course.
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First of all, Tresselball won a NC and more BCS games than any other program. Personally, I don't find that very "ugly".

But, I do agree that our lack of confidence in our offense is troubling. That tells me that we're not just underperforming in the game, but we haven't shown much more in practices either. Maybe I'm wrong on that assumption. Hope so.

Cardale played his best when he was a humble 3rd stringer who just wasn't supposed to lose the game for us. Make the occasional throws and let the slobs and EZE do their thing. Obviously, he made more than just the occasional throws for us, but you get the point. Then he spent 6 months being talked about as the 1st pick in the draft (Fail for Cardale), and now I think he's forcing things because he thinks he needs to be (or should be) the superstar. They need to somehow get him back to the mindset of game manager. Make the safer throws. Only run when needed. Let EZE do his thing, and Brax too. Go back to being the humble QB that kicked ass last year.
 
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Yertle said:
First of all, Tresselball won a NC and more BCS games than any other program. Personally, I don't find that very "ugly".

But, I do agree that our lack of confidence in our offense is troubling. That tells me that we're not just underperforming in the game, but we haven't shown much more in practices either. Maybe I'm wrong on that assumption. Hope so.

Cardale played his best when he was a humble 3rd stringer who just wasn't supposed to lose the game for us. Make the occasional throws and let the slobs and EZE do their thing. Obviously, he made more than just the occasional throws for us, but you get the point. Then he spent 6 months being talked about as the 1st pick in the draft (Fail for Cardale), and now I think he's forcing things because he thinks he needs to be (or should be) the superstar. They need to somehow get him back to the mindset of game manager. Make the safer throws. Only run when needed. Let EZE do his thing, and Brax too. Go back to being the humble QB that kicked ass last year.
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Hard to be humble when your tweets are now all over The Internet and make headlines, you're hanging at the ESPYs tweeting Ronda Rousey, and doing interviews with the top publications in America. Humble is no longer in 21-22yo mans mind then. He had a press conference to announce he was returning to graduate... And now the spotlight is on him to perform like the QB of the best team in the nation, that's a ton a pressure to stay grounded. And he hasn't done a very good job so far...
 
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LitlBuck said:
As Jay Richardson put it after the game, it is pretty difficult for a non-read QB to run a read offense and I wonder what you were saying about Cardale when he played the last three games last season.
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We actually rarely ran the Read Option in the playoffs. It only took a couple of bad reads in the Wisconsin game to take that out of the playbook.
 
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Hstead said:
What I find a little alarming is that Cardale is making the same mistakes, holding the ball too long, not reading the defense fast enough, the ball never comes out on time before the receiver makes his break, not stepping up in the pocket, throwing off his back foot, etc. I am starting to wonder how much we are missing Tom Herman as the QB coaching?

I said last year Cardale was getting bailed out by receivers too often. I wasn't one of the guys doing somersaults the last three games over Cardale's incredible QB play. I often said we suck in the RedZone because he cannot scramble, keep plays alive, or run the ball down there when the real estate is tight. Sure he is strong and hard to bring down at times, but I like to have a QB that can hurt you with his legs like Braxton and JT, where you can roll the QB out with an option to run or throw. Or go empty and spread the D out and run the QB. Cardale isn't that type of guy.
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I am in agreement here about how we are missing Tom Hermans QB coaching too. I think Cardale was a lot comfortable with his style of coaching last year in the playoff run. Whatever Coach Herman was teaching CJ during that time, it sure seemed to fit his style. Now the coaches are trying teach him something completely different . Just my opinion
 
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matcar said:
They are getting away from running the QB period. Because it isn't working...and likely won't with CJ. He does fine in a scramble but calling his number on more than a couple runs is a complete waste of a set of downs.
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Yet Cardale had the ball in his hands on 3rd down and short three times last week. Mind Blown. WTF? And who would have guessed he came up short of the stick all three times.

Please, for the love of god, quit calling Cardale option plays.
 
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http://collegespun.com/big-ten/ohio...dresses-fans-who-were-trashing-him-on-twitter

I just don't think Cardale gets it. He's still showing so many signs of maturity and his twitter account is a clear sign. It's one thing for idiotic fans to tweet players(that in itself is a special kind of stupid), but for the player to address fans is another level of maturity and ignorance, IMO. Why would you let some fanboys upset to where you need to tweet at them in such a public arena. Leaders don't do this, players who want to play in the NFL shouldn't have to be treated like children and have their social media accounts suspended during the season because the coach says so.
 
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