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buckeyesin07
Veni. Vidi. Vici.
Coaches can call timeouts too, my man. Call up Urban and give him a piece of your mind.
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There's so much text here and no analysis, that I'm not sure which of these you're blaming on Cardale. But you've got an agenda, and I'm sure you can justify it to yourself, so, just to be clear, I'm not asking. I guess I saw enough other red zone gaffes yesterday like Boren's bad snap, Brax's penalty negating the Jones to Elliott TD pass, Willoughby missing a field goal, Marshall fumbling the ball, questionable play calling and a number of other missteps, such that pinning this all on Cardale seems a bit unfair.
As for three-and-outs, I've watched enough football to understand that they happen. It seems there are people around here who think every drive would result in a TD if JT were behind center.
I'm just looking at the facts of the situation.
The only one with an agenda here is going full spin-mode...
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dragurd
Head Coach
No it was still stupid to snap it then. Take the 5 yard penalty every time over risking turning the ball over because the backfield wasn't paying attention and they were still trying to run motion. This team I swear if someone is lined up wrong with 5 seconds to go call a timeout don't try to run them across the field in that time.
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So we're playing Cardale to be a game manager.
His ceiling -- what we hope he develops into -- is a game manager.
He's not even doing a good job at that with all the turnovers.
Hmmm.
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bukIpower
Head Coach
What I mean is our coaches are asking too much of him right now. Keep it simple stupid at this point as we should be able to rush for 250 every game regardless if I'm back there throwing to C deck in the red zone like CJ. We need our QB to be turnover free and to hit play action. That's it.
Less is more with CJ. His arm become's more dangerous as teams creep forward to stop the run. Then we have to be willing to take shots (and we have to connect)
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I just find it amusing the somersaults people will go through to make excuses for him.
It's everybody's fault BUT Cardale.
I sure hope the coaching staff doesn't take that approach, I'm sure they aren't.
It's everybody's fault BUT Cardale.
I sure hope the coaching staff doesn't take that approach, I'm sure they aren't.
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buckeyesin07
Veni. Vidi. Vici.
You're ignoring the facts which aren't convenient to your story. Yesterday's game was a cluster-[censored] for a number of reasons. Was Cardale's red zone INT terrible? Absolutely. But Braxon (not Cardale) was called for a 15-yarder that took a TD from Jones to Elliott off the board; Powell (not Cardale) dropped an INT that hit him right in the chest; seven OSU players (none of whom were Cardale) were called for 15-yard penalties; Marshall (not Cardale) fumbled on the 10-yard line; Willoughby (not Cardale) missed a field goal. We could do this all day. Cardale's not perfect, but I've got news for you--JT isn't either (take a look at his tape from this year if you need any convincing).
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We've had 4 games in a row now that were "clusterfucks for a number of reasons".
Even the 4 games before that established some of the trends hurting the offense now.
Facts don't change. The spin cycle seems to create new excuses every week though.
Listing every error not directly attributable to Cardale doesn't erase all of his own (numerous) errors.
Even the 4 games before that established some of the trends hurting the offense now.
Facts don't change. The spin cycle seems to create new excuses every week though.
Listing every error not directly attributable to Cardale doesn't erase all of his own (numerous) errors.
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That we were making a lot of errors but getting away with them.
Now they're catching up to this team.
As I've said elsewhere, turnovers are team-wide... though Cardale is certainly among the offenders.
Some of the other issues are directly attributable to him.
As for the offensive style... well... if we're dedicated to running that offense, why pick a QB not suited to it? I'm not trying to pick on Cardale here... but if this is going to be a playoff team, he needs to play a lot better. Same goes for JT... but he's not starting, so it's pointless to discuss it.
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Michael Bluth
Senior
If he's going to play, then he should be throwing the ball downfield consistently throughout the game. If we're not going to throw the ball downfield, he should not be starting. This offense has too much talent, and both JT/Cardale have too much talent, for us to settle for simply handing the ball to Zeke 30 times (as some have called for).
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