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HC Ryan Day (2019 B1G Media COY)

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pnuts34 said:
There’s a lot of revisionist history when it comes to Urban…
Urban had the luxury of playing some of the worst scUM teams in program history. He got to feast on Brady cHoke,and when he left the program bare. He got to stuff Hairball in a locker. And then he left before Hairball put the team together fully in his image like he has now. Heck, Tressel even played some very tough Carr teams, but Urban hardly had many scUM teams with even close to the talent he had at OSU. Just calling a spade a spade.
Now does Day still need to beat scUM. Hell yes! Regardless of the talent level, he needs to beat scUM this year and get the monkey off his back. The team is too talented to lose again
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Hoke had his garbage teams play a lot better in The Game than any other point in the year. He also inherited rich Rod’s talent and had to rebuild the roster that gave Harbaugh that ‘16 team.

Tress is the one who had the benefit of Rich Rod.
 
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inliner311 said:
It reverted in 2015 and 2016 because Warinner and Beck weren't the guys to try to evolve the offense. Beck was just a huge downgrade from Herman. Wilson and Day come in 2017 they definitely changes to the offense for the better. The problem is that once Day was HC the Urban offense was phased out and nothing has be implemented to contrast his offensive style.
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How is that better? Meyer wasted the most talented offense in school history and got embarrassed in a 31-0 CFP loss the next year. Day hasn't come close to reaching lows like that. There is plenty of ammo to use against Day, but trying to prop up Urban's offensive coaching is not it
 
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OregonBuckeye said:
How is that better? Meyer wasted the most talented offense in school history and got embarrassed in a 31-0 CFP loss the next year. Day hasn't come close to reaching lows like that. There is plenty of ammo to use against Day, but trying to prop up Urban's offensive coaching is not it
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Urban made the mistake of hiring Beck and not someone who would help evolve the offense which is why 2015 and 2016 sucked. Tom Herman was gone. Without Urbans approach though we might never have Day. I think teams have an advantage when they are evolving in college football. The longer a team stays with an offense the ceiling seems keep getting lower and lower, the floor might stay the same though. That might be what we are seeing with Day. The floor for his offense might be higher than an Urban's approach.

I also think alot of things have to come together to win a national championship. 2015 had a lot of talent but after winning a national championship the staff was going to get raided by other programs. Everything could come together and Day could win a national championship but I'm sure he would run into the same problems of keeping the staff together.

To answer your question why I think Urban's approach is better. I think that it just more chances of everything clicking and we just find the right combo of pieces to win a national championship. I think the reason why Urban wins the national championship in 2014 is because Cardale forces them to evolve the offense and we go into that stretch with an offense that there is very little game tape for. Cardale's arm and Devin Smith's ability to take the top off the defense, just opened up the offense like nothing else could.

I think Day's offense is a good base for the offense but if he could get someone that is also a good offensive mind, fresh eyes and ideas could evolve the offense to a juggernaut to run it's way to a national championship. I think Day has really good passing concepts but lack good run concepts. If they brought someone to evolve our run game, that might be all we need.
 
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buckeyemania11 said:
The clock rule is probably going to help push a couple of big upsets throughout the season. Hopefully we aren’t on the bad side of one of those. The way the defense struggled to get off the field today has me worrying so.
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Too much is being made of the clock rules on BP. USC just ran 26 plays and scored 21 points in the first quarter against Stanford.

If you're only getting 3 second half possessions and your FCS opponent has the ball 8 more minutes than you, that's a you problem.
 
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pnuts34 said:
The Hartline promotion HAD to happen. OSU can’t lose that man and what he’s doing with the WR room. The best unit arguably in CFB. And he’s the best recruiter in CFB.

Jury is still out on the hires of Frye, Knowles, Walton and Eliano. Day also can be credited with bringing Laurinitis back, and he’ll be an official coach soon. The defense has been much better with Knowles, but I know eyes will roll because of the scUM and UGA games. But they have shut down the 1st 2 teams, like they should. But ND will be the true test. Nothing we saymatters until we see what they can do against ND.
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I disagree about "shutting down" YSU. On multiple occasions in the second half, the defense couldn't get off the field. Yes, they ultimately kept them off the scoreboard, but against better teams, those drives maybe/likely end differently and the clock those drives drained kept the offense off the field. To my eyes, there are still deficiencies with the defense that have been mitigated a bit by playing two bad teams. We'll see how they do against Notre Dame. Hopefully they figure out how to stifle them on third down.
 
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dragurd said:
RBs if they can stay healthy and QBs.

Really need the D-line and DBs to step up to their usual standards
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McCord looked better today, but I ain't ready to crown him "elite" based on a good second half against Indiana and YSU. That said, if there's one position that Day deserves the benefit of the doubt, it's qb; but I need to see him do it against a real team, not tomato cans. I have a hard time calling our RBs elite, too. They look pretty decent so far, but if the passing game is taken away, I'm not sold that these guys can grind down an opposing defense like we did with Zeke or Dobbins.
 
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NFBuck said:
McCord looked better today, but I ain't ready to crown him "elite" based on a good second half against Indiana and YSU. That said, if there's one position that Day deserves the benefit of the doubt, it's qb; but I need to see him do it against a real team, not tomato cans. I have a hard time calling our RBs elite, too. They look pretty decent so far, but if the passing game is taken away, I'm not sold that these guys can grind down an opposing defense like we did with Zeke or Dobbins.
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I meant as a whole under Day's tenure more than just today. But I feel fine with McCord. And RBs we have 3 if not 4 counting Hayden. That would start on most teams. I'd call that elite. And that's not counting Pryor who was supposed to be the breakout star last year before he got hurt
 
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I said this a bit earlier but watching Texas put Alabama away depressed me a bit. Texas had the ball at the end of the game and iced Bama by just literally coming at Bama on a 3rd and 2 — when they knew damn well what was coming. They did it twice in their final drive on the ground and I feel like this offense could never do that against a good team this season or at any point under Day moving forward.

It’s truly just baffling to me how something so simple seems so foreign to a staff or single coach.
 
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pnuts34 said:
There’s a lot of revisionist history when it comes to Urban…
Urban had the luxury of playing some of the worst scUM teams in program history. He got to feast on Brady cHoke,and when he left the program bare. He got to stuff Hairball in a locker. And then he left before Hairball put the team together fully in his image like he has now. Heck, Tressel even played some very tough Carr teams, but Urban hardly had many scUM teams with even close to the talent he had at OSU. Just calling a spade a spade.
Now does Day still need to beat scUM. Hell yes! Regardless of the talent level, he needs to beat scUM this year and get the monkey off his back. The team is too talented to lose again
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Also got a pedster program in turmoil and a Wiscy program that was off its peak.
 
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dragurd said:
I meant as a whole under Day's tenure more than just today. But I feel fine with McCord. And RBs we have 3 if not 4 counting Hayden. That would start on most teams. I'd call that elite. And that's not counting Pryor who was supposed to be the breakout star last year before he got hurt
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I’d rather have Zeke Dobbins Eddie Byars or Archie than 4 mediocre backs.
 
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