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2010 tOSU Recruiting Discussion

I take Brown before Dunkley, but that's due to his value at WR & DB. I'm not disputing Dunkley's interest, I'm just curious what the outcome would be.

They are usually a bit more liberal with offers to southern prospects (even at positions that they withhold offers instate), particularly guys with major offer lists, so there must be some reason, even if it befuddles us in the meantime.
 
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I also think Bank's statment on Scout is a little overboard. I thought Robo had a nice season with a true freshman QB. Hartline averaged 22.8 YPC. That doesn't sound like trouble getting separation. I think over the last few seasons we have done well getting guys that will not have trouble getting open down field (Posey, Thomas, Jackson).
 
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SayNoToMichigan;1494958; said:
I also think Bank's statment on Scout is a little overboard. I thought Robo had a nice season with a true freshman QB. Hartline averaged 22.8 YPC. That doesn't sound like trouble getting separation. I think over the last few seasons we have done well getting guys that will not have trouble getting open down field (Posey, Thomas, Jackson).


You can probably also throw in Jordan Hall to that mix as well, I think we'll see more of him at WR than RB just because of the amount of quality RBs we have and he has some good hands for the slot. And let's not forget about the separation that Dane somehow usually finds across the middle. He always just seems to find the right places!
 
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pnuts34;1494968; said:
You can probably also throw in Jordan Hall to that mix as well, I think we'll see more of him at WR than RB just because of the amount of quality RBs we have and he has some good hands for the slot.
Very true, he should have been on my list.
And let's not forget about the separation that Dane somehow usually finds across the middle. He always just seems to find the right places!
Perhaps Gonzo gave him some tips on that sneaky fast thing :p
 
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MililaniBuckeye;1494973; said:
"Us" fans? Speak for yourself...

You agree with taking a kicker and punter in a small class when there's a lot of talent yet to be offered?

And I have a feeling i'm not the only one who questions the offer either. I also see it as a plus that we have more schollies to give though.
 
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You agree with taking a kicker and punter in a small class when there's a lot of talent yet to be offered?
I absolutely agree with taking a kicker. That's 1 scholarship per specialist position for 2010. It does not merit mentioning, imo. I think it is being used to make it appear as though OSU is taking away two scholarships from "more valuable" positions, when the math being used there is an exaggeration.

The punter scholarship is more controversial, but having 3 specialists on schollie is nothing new under JT, and again, only represents 1 "excess" scholarship (to those who feel 2 specialists is enough). I think it also bears mentioning that OSU is not extending an offer to a questionable prospect or potential reach. Hagerup & Basil are both studs as prospects.

There is a reason Dunkley doesn't have an offer, it's just not one that has been known publically. That might always be the case.


Give me Hicks, Joyner to go with Norwell, Turner, McVey, Bryant, etc & monitor Latwan for a late offer, and I'm pretty stoked about this class. I want every scholarship available for Miller, Miller, DePriest, Grant, Robinson, Holts, etc in 2011, and there aren't many coming off the books next spring.
 
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When you have a small class, you better concentrate on your needs.
Get an excellent QB. Check.
Get an excellent RB. Check.
TE? Not yet Better get at least one.
Safety? Not yet.
Kicker? We got 2. JT knows what he's doing.
O line? Got one. Should get another one or two.
Other "needs"?
 
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AmeriBuck007;1494955; said:
I agree he probably wasn't considering Carter, but other than that who would you take over Dunkley. And the interest has rumored to be from Dunkley's end more so than OSU's so you never really know until you offer and get him up for a visit. What can it hurt? It doesn't seem like we have many other WR targets for the time being.
Thomas, Brown, Posey, Carter, Jackson - in my mind, all of those are keepers over Dunkley.
 
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AmeriBuck007;1494996; said:
You agree with taking a kicker and punter in a small class when there's a lot of talent yet to be offered?

And I have a feeling i'm not the only one who questions the offer either. I also see it as a plus that we have more schollies to give though.


I not only agree with it I question how after 8 years of JT anyone could question his decisions as they pertain to personnel in the kicking game.
 
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Guess i'm in the minority here haha. I am not even sure how interested Hagerup is in tOSU, but the only issue I would have is if his scholarship would be taking away another "hole" but obviously Tressel knows the numbers better than any of us and has a plan. The only time I have truly questioned him is with our QB recruiting last year, and that was due to Boyd playing us like a fiddle. I have no problem taking Hagerup, the only issue I had was taking him in such a small class with a Monster 2011 class next year.
 
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jwinslow;1494957; said:
I take Brown before Dunkley, but that's due to his value at WR & DB. I'm not disputing Dunkley's interest, I'm just curious what the outcome would be.

They are usually a bit more liberal with offers to southern prospects (even at positions that they withhold offers instate), particularly guys with major offer lists, so there must be some reason, even if it befuddles us in the meantime.


jwinslow;1495002; said:
There is a reason Dunkley doesn't have an offer, it's just not one that has been known publically. That might always be the case.


Did you receive an update this morning?
 
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Regardless of who we have had, have, or are going to have, I think there is no way you pass on Dunkley in terms of talent. If there are other issues then fine, but I can't imagine a lack of an offer based on talent. As far as specialists...it is a very uncertain year for this class, so I'm ok with taking a specialist...two I'm not so sure about, especially in the same class. But as everyone else has mentioned, JT is the best in the biz when it comes to the kicking game and usually we have 3 kickers on scholly as is, so we might as well handpick them if they are that good.

As far as "needs" go...we need a QB, TE, 2 to 3 OL, two DT's, and a safety or two. The other positions to me are luxuries or depth. Another "need" is to lock down 6 to 8 of the top 10 we have offered in Ohio, regardless of position. Graham at QB is intriguing but calling him "excellent" is premature...it still stings to miss on Montana and Hendrix. However, I am glad to see a legacy get a shot here and hopefully he has a big senior year after being injured most of his junior year.

At TE we have missed on the only guy we have offered with Welch and I think we are insane to have not offered Alex Smith...hopefully we can still throw our hat in the ring or snag someone. However, this is a position we never use anyways so maybe we just go back to "Yackle" after Stoney.

At OL we have 1 elite tackle with Norwell, who I think is the best OL in the country aside from Henderson. We aren't getting Henderson and Linder and Koujando are question marks. Getting James would be huge. So this position is far from answered. The plus side is I believe all 4 of the OL haul in '09 are going to be special.

We have some young talent at DT with Goebel, Mobley, Simon, and Bellamy but we need to follow up with a couple more DT's because none of that talent is proven yet. Unfortunately, it is just a down year in talent. I love Hankins potential and Tomlinson is a big boy but neither appear very sold on OSU, though I wouldn't count us out for either. Beyond those two, I really would like to see Talbot get an offer at Wayne. This position could go either way. Safety is not a worry, as we will get Bryant and possibly Anderson.

As far as the "need" in state, this is my biggest disappointment. Losing Hicks, Turner, Welch, Hendrix, Ware, and James could happen and they all are top 10 players in Ohio. At best we hang on to Turner and get Hicks or James. This doesn't make '10 a bad class but it's just disappointing to miss that many top players in Ohio.
 
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RB07OSU;1495123; said:
At TE we have missed on the only guy we have offered with Welch and I think we are insane to have not offered Alex Smith...hopefully we can still throw our hat in the ring or snag someone. However, this is a position we never use anyways so maybe we just go back to "Yackle" after Stoney.

I'm not so sure that TE is a big need. At the beginning of next season, we will have 3 solid or better (IMO) TEs with none of them older than sophomore eligibility. While I understand Stoney isn't the prototypical TE, we still have Fragel and DiLillo as the bigger types. I'm not saying Alex Smith should or shouldn't be offered, just giving a possible explanation. Also, I don't think it can be ruled out that either JT Moore or Darryl Baldwin won't get a look at TE. We are pretty loaded at DE numberwise, so I wouldn't be shocked if one of them ends up at TE.
 
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