jwinslow;1487553; said:
Oh my. When was the last time a class with two 5-stars missed that cut? I thought some folks were getting carried away with the 2007 comparisons, now we're looking at a 2003 caliber class?
OSU better only land about 10 kids or this prediction is going to look pretty foolish.
It is looking pretty bleak for Turner right now...if he is indeed in this class (I REALLY hope he is if he gets it together) then yes, it would be foolish. Otherwise we could be looking at a majority of 3 star players filling this class...can that turn out ok? Yes. However, we get a lot more excited when the majority of the class is filled with top 100 guys, like '08 and '09. Plus I said it is possible...I don't think that this won't end up being a top 25 class but it's not impossible imo.
matcar;1487581; said:
I neither know nor care whether we're "Top 25" but I have heard this notion that the 2010 class isn't strong so we're 'taking our time'...I'd say that IF the 2010 class isn't as strong, then taking time/slow playing would be risky...since there's less top talent to hit, you'd need to get on it early rather than late.
We all know there are late bloomers and at tOSU we usually have a late offer or two that we're pleased with, but that's not what we hope to make a living off of.
Bingo...this is my worry. This really isn't a deep class nationally, or in state. The talent in state is top heavy...the top 5 are legit stars. However, we could miss 4 out of the 5 (Ware, Hicks, Turner, and James). 5-15 isn't shabby at all but we've already missed Hendrix and Welch from there, and we didn't even offer Alex Smith. Plus Baldwin could have maxed out early. That's 8 players. In years past the backup options always seemed so much more attractive then this year (besides at OL with Donnal and Shoefner). I'm not trying to forecast doomsday but I'm just thinking that with each guy we missed that was our first offer, the dropoff could be bigger this year.
jwinslow;1487566; said:
Lets get some perspective here. There's a difference between being disappointed and critical of recruiting so far, and triple-jumping to conclusions like this class won't break the top-25.
In the 05 class, OSU had 4 verbals at this point. (the 06 class had 5). Two 5-stars in Boone, O'Neal, a 3-star DL from far away, and two local 4* linemen.
Wilson was committed to a soon to be fired domer HC.
Andre Amos got his offer in June.
Malcolm Jenkins didn't have an offer yet.
Austin Spitler didn't have an offer yet.
Freddie Lenix didn't have an offer yet.
Anderson Russell didn't have an offer yet, and wouldn't get one during the summer either.
James Laurinaitis was anchoring Minny's class, and would not surface on BP for 5 months, nor visit OSU for 6.
Brian Robiskie would not get an offer for over 7 months.
Donald Washington? Ditto.
Amos has been injured his entire time here, as has Wilson basically. On top of that, Wilson doesn't look likely to start with Gibson, Heyward, and Williams. Lenix didn't make it in and Spitler hasn't played much, and still has a senior year to prove himself. Russell has never been the same since his surgery (imo) and I honestly think Hines is a better player at safety. Washington had a good year but got in trouble and was replaced by Chekwa. Jenkins, Robiskie, and JL are the only legit players on that list so far...not to mention Jenkins was offered and comitted in the summer right? I know he got offered in camp.
All in all I can't say the '05 class is an example of a smashing class that defied the odds with late offers. We defied the odds by getting to the NC game with that group but how we got there might be a bigger issue...honestly, LSU proved we shouldn't have been there but that's another can of worms.
Edit: Also, it's off season...I need something to cynically disect
