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tOSU Recruiting Discussion

Banning people from making money is not only contrary to common sense, but also contrary to the primary function of the government, which is stealing the money that people make.
If we can't trust a bunch of Social Security-drawing, Medicare-eligible, aren't-allowed-to-drive-at-night old dudes to dictate what is right for kids trying to better their situations, then who can we trust? (sarcasm font)
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OC Arthur Smith (Official Thread)

Is this guy going to be able to recruit or do we care about that anymore?
I don't think we care about that anymore, now that we can have unlimited assistants. The only issue is if the kids will care that the OC isn't the one talking to them or not. Who knows. Seems like the strategy is to go get guys who know stuff and ignore if they hate recruiting or not (the good ones usually do).....then let the younger positional coaches who can relate to the kids better do all the recruiting.

Strategy is sound....as long as the kids don't care that we aren't sending the OC or DC.
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tOSU Recruiting Discussion

When a team loses 31 xfers, some fat/excess goes, certainly. But when one debones a chicken or beefsteak, some muscle gets cut away as well as fat. Heck, tOSU made ND's portal season all by ourselves...IMHO. Appears to me that tOSU's sophomore and junior cadre has been gutted by transfers, making the team more dependent upon the portal. And am not convinced that the coaching staff can make as great an impact on the 3-4-5 year players coming in, as they would on the 1-2-3 year recruits. While I'm not as critical of Pantoni as some of the above, kinda hard to look at someone's tape (which is made up of their GOOD plays, not their average plays) to get a feel for a kid. And is folly to read the news clippings of a guy, and make an educated decision as to make them an instant millionaire. With the huge money being thrown around for HCs, the pressure is being put upon them for instant success. And Cignetti is the poster boy certainly. Wouldn't be surprised if each and every new HC hire is being compared to him, with no earthly idea whether this new guy can 'redo' as well as Cignetti has done. And the leash on said HC will be shorter.
If you look around CFB, every team went through the same thing. And the current state of CFB doesn't lean towards developing as much as bringing in older players who need less development. OSU lost mainly players who never played, so they just lost unknowns. And that can be taken as a positive or negative. I take it that OSU lost players who OSU coaches didn't deem good enough to play big minutes. Would they have played next year? Maybe. But they brought in players who have played, and again that can also be taken either way. So yeah, it sucked losing Aaron Scott, but getting Dominick Kelly was a bigger deal; losing Mylan Graham and Quincy Porter sucked, but landing 2 players who played extensively with Parker and McCuin is an even bigger deal. There will need to be less attention made on HS star rankings after year 2 for players if they haven't played. When I name those 3 OSU players who transferred, what did OSU lose?

Pantoni isn't a fan, so he's not just looking at highlights. He and his staff are analyzing entire game film, not just the highlights. Their job is also to interview players, and sometimes people in their lives to assess whether they should make them an instant millionaire.

Yes, HCs will be tasked with winning faster now due to the Portal and NIL. And I don't blame the programs, and yes, Cignetti is a major reason. But the reason Cignetti had such a fast path to success was due to the Portal and NIL. So if a program is willing to get their alum to spend money, there really isn't a reason not to have more success.
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Ohio State Men's Tennis (2014/2019/2024 ITA Indoor National Champs, 20 Straight B1G Titles)

Cannot remember such a magnificent week end for any other Buckeye team, ever! Maybe pistol, and/or Syncro swimming, but that's it. Anyone do a wrap-up for we amateurs? Gracel and BB gave us some bon mots, or maybe direct us/me to another website? Thanks, would that had been in the stands....Kudos to the players!
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Miami (OH) Redhawks (Basketball Official Thread)

Was very surprised to see my alma mater ranked inside the top 20! And with a perfect 20-0! Don't believe it's gonna last forever, but wow! Matriculated there, during the days of Freddy Foster, but gone during the Wally Szerbiak (sp?) days. Kentucky knocked them out of the Dance, by playing four guys on Wally, and one person covering the other four guys....guess no team scheduled this team as a 'body bag' game in preseason. PS, went there when we were called the Redskins....

Professional Players Returning to College

Well, believe it or not, there was once a time that the Olympics did not allow professionals to compete. Then, it turns out that the Eastern block countries were putting athletes in the military, where their only duties were to practice/play their respective sports. By USA standards, not professional. Nowadays, professionals are the norm in competition. And by professional, I mean that one gets paid for performing. Sooo, if one gets paid for performing, they are always a professional, correct? But there is a precedent, because in golf, if you were a professional, getting checks for performing well, etc. You actually can petition the PGA, USGA etc to have your amateur status given back to you. Do not believe has happened in any other sport, but simply do not know. Probably someone else might.
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Ohio State Women's Basketball (2023-24 B1G CHAMPS)

Kinda hard to crash the boards with only one big. McDuff is and will always put a guard first team on the floor. Four littles and one big can work, he's proven that, but when you go up against some height, you get out-rebounded, unless you make an unreasonable number of shots. Certainly the press works, but in the Dance, you're playing against some very good ball handlers, which leads to some easy buckets. Cannot imagine playing Elsa and Hobbs together, they'd get in each other's way, and Kitt seems to be the best assistant glass cleaner on the court. Would like to see Elsa become a 'junkyard dog', but don't believe she's built like that. And, if the opposing forward/center boxes her out, there is zero chance the Buckeyes get the rebound. Has anyone figured how you always get one 'hot' shooter per game?
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OC Arthur Smith (Official Thread)

For as much set theory as I deal with in data science, I always wished that I had taken a formal logic class. I always loved the topic, but alas… there were match and stats classes to take!
The grad symbolic logic classes were a significant contributing factor to my pulling the rip cord and coming back to ATL for law school. There was just no way to maintain the tOSU undergrad (both my roommates were) lifestyle to which I’d become accustomed as the classes got more advanced. :)
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2026 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, Arrogant Twatwaffles, Emasculated Cucks, Feckless Marmots, Dirty Cheaters "Mid"chigan

Will Whittingham clean up the Michigan football program?

Or will the Michigan football program corrupt Whittingham?

Compared to the culture in the state of Utah, he's basically living in Gomorrah now. And to think Michigan is actually trying to clean up their act instead of just hiring a coach with a clean rep as a PR move is foolish. Look what Moore and Harbaugh were allowed to get away with. The AD is the same and they still don't have a president, do they?
My guess is that these are easy answers:
You can't polish a turd. You just get shit on your hands.
The culture isn't going to change in the matter of a few months or even a few years. If he has any desire to change the culture, he won't have the time before getting fired.
Rich Rod was only trying to change the offense from having a tall statue at quarterback to having a running threat, and he improved by 2 wins every year he was there, and still got fired.
Hoke went back to the old way of trying to score, and he regressed by 2 wins every year he was there, and he got 1 more year than Rich Rod did.
Whittingham - I don't know anything about him - can go in there and "clean up" the program, but the boosters aren't going to be happy with 8 or 9 wins a year, and never making the playoff.

My prediction: Day #1 of practice he's going to be approached by some new Connor Stalions guy with a plan to get an illegal edge. Whittingham is going to say, "No way, we're clean." Then the other dude is going to say, "But we've already been doing it. And now for reasons we can't explain, your fingerprints are all over it." It'll be easier for Whittingham to hope no one finds out than for him to clean it up.
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tOSU Recruiting Discussion

When a team loses 31 xfers, some fat/excess goes, certainly. But when one debones a chicken or beefsteak, some muscle gets cut away as well as fat. Heck, tOSU made ND's portal season all by ourselves...IMHO. Appears to me that tOSU's sophomore and junior cadre has been gutted by transfers, making the team more dependent upon the portal. And am not convinced that the coaching staff can make as great an impact on the 3-4-5 year players coming in, as they would on the 1-2-3 year recruits. While I'm not as critical of Pantoni as some of the above, kinda hard to look at someone's tape (which is made up of their GOOD plays, not their average plays) to get a feel for a kid. And is folly to read the news clippings of a guy, and make an educated decision as to make them an instant millionaire. With the huge money being thrown around for HCs, the pressure is being put upon them for instant success. And Cignetti is the poster boy certainly. Wouldn't be surprised if each and every new HC hire is being compared to him, with no earthly idea whether this new guy can 'redo' as well as Cignetti has done. And the leash on said HC will be shorter.
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