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Yeah, but how many World Series have the Braves won since 2004? That's as relevant to the discussion of Patrick Tebow.

I... whuuut? You said "since Tyreek left".

Your take is that Mahomes has been ineffective without Hill. To the point of comparing him with a 50% NFL passer that was Tebow.

Since Tyreek left, Mahomes has won more Superbowls than he did with him. That is perfectly relevant to this discussion.

It's fine to reassess your take and rethink your stance. Again, you're like me... I'm not fond of Patrick either. He's annoying and so is the 24/7 Chiefs coverage and preferential on-field calls.

None of that precludes Mahomes from being a top 3 QB.

Edit: Worth pointing out, the Chiefs were blown out by Tampa in a Superbowl with Tyreek playing for them.
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2025 Heisman Trophy Discussion

Still September, but guys that either threw 5 picks or 10 straight incompletions yesterday have slid down the list.

Odds courtesy of BetMGM as of Sunday, Sept. 14


When did the Heisman committee decide they would die on the hill of the award going to a QB?

I know it's generally been a QB award for a long time but I don't recall ever seeing it be this forced.

This is sad.
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