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2026 tOSU Recruiting Discussion
- By ShowMeBuck
- Football Recruiting
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My thoughts exactly. And I’m good with that.
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Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)
- By heisman
- College Football
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I think if PSU was on an island and 2010 transfer rules were in effect, you’d be spot on. At this rate, half of major college football will have a new coach and PSU‘s new head man can just import his old team and hit the ground running. I mean, that’s exactly what Cignetti did at IU, and that’s with JMU imports.Ive been saying that since Franklin was fired. Firing him mid season is going to an incredible amount of damage to the program, with recruits, current players, incoming coaches, AD and program as a whole. I tried telling this to a co worker who’s a Ped St fan. He said that they had to do something to make another step. I made the point that what if they were already at their ceiling. His counterpoint was JoePa, and then mine was that if you’re using an NC from 40yrs ago as your level of success, than your program is not an NC relevant program. They’re a 9-10win program which is where Franklin had them. Firing him just made the next HC’s job almost impossible because his seat is hot if he doesn’t win the B1G in year 2 and an NC by year 3. And if the coach has less than 9 wins(which I think he will since so much talent will be leaving and recruiting is a massive burden there) than you’re going to have some embarrassed and pissed off big money donors who will have caused this entire mess
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Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)
- By 1926Buckeyes
- College Football
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Ive been saying that since Franklin was fired. Firing him mid season is going to an incredible amount of damage to the program, with recruits, current players, incoming coaches, AD and program as a whole. I tried telling this to a co worker who’s a Ped St fan. He said that they had to do something to make another step. I made the point that what if they were already at their ceiling. His counterpoint was JoePa, and then mine was that if you’re using an NC from 40yrs ago as your level of success, than your program is not an NC relevant program. They’re a 9-10win program which is where Franklin had them. Firing him just made the next HC’s job almost impossible because his seat is hot if he doesn’t win the B1G in year 2 and an NC by year 3. And if the coach has less than 9 wins(which I think he will since so much talent will be leaving and recruiting is a massive burden there) than you’re going to have some embarrassed and pissed off big money donors who will have caused this entire mess
Taking this from the recruiting thread.
Their whole identity as a football program is so fucked up. An old demon coached there for 60 years, won 2 titles in 5 years, and then a total of 3 conference championships post ‘93. PSU won enough to stay relevant, but the real draw was JoePa and his following. The fans, media, and sport paid reverence to him, not Penn St, and it created monsters and a rudderless program after he left in disgrace.
The sooner they move on, the better, but they never will. His success is all they can point to that seperates them from Iowa or a dozen other decent programs. And the more they point to him as the pinnacle of football, the longer it’ll take to develop their own identity.
Franklin wasn’t a great coach but he was as or more consistent than JoePa was in his final 2 decades. And that’s all you really need to know about the quality of JoePa and their program.
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