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Jaxbuck
Zem said:
Klosterman interview about his book. The "death of football" is just a small section of it.

"...in the book I kind of argue what I think's going to happen to football in 60 or 70 years. There are economic issues - particularly with television, advertising, some of these things - that as they balloon to even greater and greater heights, where the amount of money is so great that the NFL can only continue expanding, it does become fragile. ..."

Sounds right - the league continues to expand and London will probably have a team someday.. The NFL admin seems to think the only option is to keep growing. And the salaries get more and more ridiculous. It doesn't seem sustainable.

The selection of Bad Bunny for the halftime show makes even more sense in this context because he has appeal in Latin America, where they probably also want to expand.
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Like any business-sell more to the same customer or go find new markets to sell your stuff into.

Obvious answer for NFL is new markets.

CFB is the one that will hit a hard wall there. They better start coming up with some additional products/services. :lol:
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buckeyemania11
buckeyeintn said:
So your FIRE DIEBLER is based on an unsubtantiated theory about what money may or may not exist, that is not even rumored to exist, to the best of my knowledge has never even been hinted at? Well, I really can't come up with anything to refute that. You win.
BTW, it's also very possible that Jax has been secretly sleeping with Jessica Alba for the last 5 years.

How do we currently attack the portal?
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My FIRE DIEBLER is based on my observation that he's in over his head trying to be the head coach at a major program. He shoulda never been hired in the first place, it's a sad state of affairs that Ohio State basically pulled a low major program type move. Of course I'm not in charge and have no control over these things though so my opinion is just an opinion. He's gonna be back next year and I would love for him to prove me wrong but it seems like wishful thinking at this point.
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buckeyeintn
buckeyemania11 said:
I'll repost what I posted above.


I know it's fun to throw around that 12th in NIL spending number, but IMO it's very possible that we had money that went unspent because they put a lot of their eggs into the basket of a player or two that they ended up whiffing on, and then by the time that player picked another program they were left with scraps. The margin for error in the hoops portal is much much smaller than in football. Now i'm not claiming that we had the NIL resources of a scUM or anything but I think there's probably more behind that number. So i'd say there needs to be a big re-examination of how we attack the portal.
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So your FIRE DIEBLER is based on an unsubtantiated theory about what money may or may not exist, that is not even rumored to exist, to the best of my knowledge has never even been hinted at? Well, I really can't come up with anything to refute that. You win.
BTW, it's also very possible that Jax has been secretly sleeping with Jessica Alba for the last 5 years.

How do we currently attack the portal?
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DZ83CK
buckeyeintn said:
You believe this is possible with NIL money in the bottom half ( and only 1 spot away from the bottom third) of the B1G? Diebler is not a detriment to additional NIL money. The priorities at tOSU and the priorities of the donors are the detriment to additional NIL money. And as much as I'd like to see large donors step up to help BB, I'm not real sure those donors give a rat's ass about what I think.
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Well said. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a coach to have OSU in the tournament more often than not, but I also think Diebler can get OSU to that point. That's not that high of a bar, honestly. I believe the powers that be at OSU kind of have the same expectation, that the program makes the tournament more often than not, and as long as the coach is able to manage to do that, they won't let him go. Thad obviously made the tournament more often than not, but he had a prolonged negative trend where the team won fewer games each successive season for several years and it was clear that the program was not headed in the right direction. It's too bad Thad didn't have had NIL available towards the end of his run of success, or else we may not have ever been in this position.
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buckeyemania11
buckeyeintn said:
You believe this is possible with NIL money in the bottom half ( and only 1 spot away from the bottom third) of the B1G? Diebler is not a detriment to additional NIL money. The priorities at tOSU and the priorities of the donors are the detriment to additional NIL money. And as much as I'd like to see large donors step up to help BB, I'm not real sure those donors give a rat's ass about what I think.
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I'll repost what I posted above.


I know it's fun to throw around that 12th in NIL spending number, but IMO it's very possible that we had money that went unspent because they put a lot of their eggs into the basket of a player or two that they ended up whiffing on, and then by the time that player picked another program they were left with scraps. The margin for error in the hoops portal is much much smaller than in football. Now i'm not claiming that we had the NIL resources of a scUM or anything but I think there's probably more behind that number. So i'd say there needs to be a big re-examination of how we attack the portal.
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buckeyeintn
buckeyemania11 said:
The university has just completely mismanaged the program. It was definitely time to move on from Thad but the way it happened was definitely not ideal (way after the hiring cycle had already transpired) Then you had the complete disaster that was that Holtmann extension. Without the inexplicably bad extension the Holtmann situation isn't as bad but all of that led to us getting to where we are now.

Unless we got extremely lucky somehow we aren't getting an immediate high level splash hire who's going to instant have us as a real threat. That's just not in the cards for this program in the state it's currently in. I do think if Diebler flames out we should at least be able to land someone who can have us respectable and at least a constant tournament team though.
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You believe this is possible with NIL money in the bottom half ( and only 1 spot away from the bottom third) of the B1G? Diebler is not a detriment to additional NIL money. The priorities at tOSU and the priorities of the donors are the detriment to additional NIL money. And as much as I'd like to see large donors step up to help BB, I'm not real sure those donors give a rat's ass about what I think.
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buckeyemania11
DaveyBoy said:
I’m mostly there. But what got Thad fired was 2 years in a row out of the tourney and the talent level looking like they would miss the next year as well. So the bare minimum is 50% of the time in the NCAA….every other year. At least half of those tourney visits should go to S16. I really don’t think those are too much for Ohio State. 50% of the time in NCAA……25% of the time in the S16. 1 FF every 8 to 10 years.
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The university has just completely mismanaged the program. It was definitely time to move on from Thad but the way it happened was definitely not ideal (way after the hiring cycle had already transpired) Then you had the complete disaster that was that Holtmann extension. Without the inexplicably bad extension the Holtmann situation isn't as bad but all of that led to us getting to where we are now.

Unless we got extremely lucky somehow we aren't getting an immediate high level splash hire who's going to instant have us as a real threat. That's just not in the cards for this program in the state it's currently in. I do think if Diebler flames out we should at least be able to land someone who can have us respectable and at least a constant tournament team though.
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buckeyemania11 said:
Honestly being consistently in B1G title contention isn't even an expectation of mine, I just think we should be able to make the tournament more often than not. Which I don't think should be unrealistic at all. If we could maybe make a more serious run 3/4 times a decade that would just be a big plus.
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I’m mostly there. But what got Thad fired was 2 years in a row out of the tourney and the talent level looking like they would miss the next year as well. So the bare minimum is 50% of the time in the NCAA….every other year. At least half of those tourney visits should go to S16. I really don’t think those are too much for Ohio State. 50% of the time in NCAA……25% of the time in the S16. 1 FF every 8 to 10 years.
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