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2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, etc.

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Ahh Saturday 8 HOURS AGO
Question for Premierdrum, I have been following your posts and Brohio's since the two of you started covering this scandal, and the one point where there seems some significant space between the two of you is, unfortunately, on the most important question of all. What comes of this?
Brohio seems to be in the wrist-slap category whereas you have always been more confident that michigan is facing serious consequences. Brohio has openly stated that his is a bit of a gut feeling. How much of your position is similarly based on your gut feeling? From the outside, your opinion seems based on the "minimum framework" presented by the NCAA in the NOA, a document that has not been made public. Obviously you won't be outing your source here, but my question is are there indeed multiple sources for this minimum framework? How old is that information, and are your sources still communicating with you? Are they still expressing confidence that the punishments for these infractions will match what many on this board believe are merited?
Once again, I appreciate the work you've been doing on this, and I hope you're closer to right than Brohio on how this all winds up.
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Premierdrum 7 HOURS AGO
The framework as reported here last summer will ultimately bear out as fact. My sourcing throughout this saga has been through folks I know - some for decades - and folks I trust. These aren't strangers in trench coats or random emails to my burner. We're still in contact, even if just chatting about bourbon or baseball, but the flow of information has been choked off in this final run up to the hearing.
As to my confidence that the panel will land on something in line with the framework? I'd call it an informed gut feeling. Enforcement staff has some very strong feelings about not just UM's lack of cooperation, but the active measures they took to avoid and derail the investigation. Members of the committee have already studied not just the base documents from this case, but also reviewed approved the 2 negotiated resolutions against Minter and Clink... both of whom gave up info. And if the proposed resolutions up to this point weren't devastating to UM, they would have tripped over themselves running to sign them. The last place an institution wants to be is in a COI panel hearing... there's no upside for them.
Nobody can say what the committee will decide, but given the unprecedented nature of the scheme and its direct impact to on-field results, the abject indifference to NCAA bylaws, their complete lack of cooperation, multiple coaches destroying evidence, the AD and university president thumbing their nose at the NCAA, the lack of self-reporting, their status as repeat offenders and the fact that they're already on probation? None of that bodes well for them.
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TenneCheat VolunTears (official thread)

If conference doesn't matter, then why do we have a thread, "It Just Means More?" Why are you on this thread worrying about yahoos from Nashville and Knoxville?

The strength of any conference does matter. It's why there are threads pissing and moaning about the chance that the ACC champion with 1 loss might get a better playoff slot than a 1 loss Buckeye team.

I don't root for other Big Ten teams before I root for the Buckeyes, but I want to see the conference as being better than the others. I don't want to be the guy who chants "Big Ten!" while Illinois beats Wake Forest (I also don't want to be Big Nut or the other doofuss in the cape and cowboy hat). But I do want to see conference strength helping the Buckeyes in the polls and in playoff seeding.
Gotcha. So you were happy about the 2024 NCs. Got it. Would you like for scUM to have no punishment so they can have great results on the field and have that B1G pride? Like @zbsaid, It's OHio against the world! Not B1G against the world. I'd be fine with the B1G getting only 1 conference win in the bowls and playoffs and that win being OSU

And im on this thread to ridicule and mock those douche nuggets inbreds in Knoxville. Im on the SEC, It means more thread, to ridicule and mock those douche nugget inbred from the rest of the SEC schools. Im a simple man, and to quote the scholar @zbuck F everyone else
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Cincinnati Reds (2025 is our year! Haha thats actually funny)

Santillan must have a dead arm. He leads the majors in innings if not mistaken. Don't know why Tito seems to mistake him for Pedro Borbon.

Espinal's slump is nearing historic duration.

Great win. Let's see if we can spoil Pomegranate's 0 era tomorrow. Reds have a better pitching matchup on sunday with Martinez.
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SEC (It just means more.. even its losses are wins)

The conference does matter especially when you get below the B1G & SEC, that's pretty obvious.

At SOME POINT losses should matter though. But I get the feeling that SMU flopping on their face will make the committee think twice before ever giving a ACC type team like them the bid over a meh 3 loss Bama type team ever again.

The SEC is basically playing the "losses in the SEC should count less" card with their "LOOK AT HOW TOUGH OUR CONFERENCE SCHEDULE IS!" manifesto they sent out to the media. They are pretty much straight up ignoring that Bama and Ole Miss both lost 2/3 of their games to meh average at best teams.
Bama should try having a QB that can throw beyond an SMU level

or one that remembers that he's among the most dominant weapons at QB that the school has ever seen.

or they could throw for Harbaugh like qb numbers and then complain when people notice.
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Bye Margaret….

Wow, didn't know she was that old. I'm getting old.
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SEC (It just means more.. even its losses are wins)

Let me just say that it’s time for a NATIONAL tournament where teams from the South have to play in the north and teams from the west have to travel to the east and the NCG rotates through all four regions. Let the bowls fall down go boom and get the fuck out of the way.
A buddy of mine had an idea that I like: move the bowl games to the beginning of the next season. Every team qualifies for a bowl, but many or most are at home fields for one team. You still have the Sugar Bowl, Rose Bowl, Poop Bucket Bowl... but that's Week 1 of the next year. The only post-season games are the playoffs.
I'd add that all rounds should be home games for the better seeds until the championship. Like you said, southern teams will have to travel north sometimes (Welcome, Tennessee fans!).
I like your idea of moving the championship game through the 4 regions, but if I only get one, I'd choose to have more of the playoff games at home stadiums.
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CB Davison Igbinosun (National Champion)

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Tim Walton Working with Davison Igbinosun to Master Fundamentals As Ohio State Cornerback Looks to Reduce Penalties in Senior Season

“I want to improve on the penalties,” Igbinosun told ESPN when explaining his decision to stay at Ohio State for another year. “I had too many, I want to clean that up.”

Fortunately for Igbinosun, he has the benefit of another year to learn from one of college football’s top secondary coaches, Tim Walton – who knows what it takes to succeed at the highest level as a former NFL secondary coach. And even though it’s been a lingering issue for two years, Walton believes Igbinosun’s penalty issues remain entirely correctable.

“Anything in life is correctable if you put the work in,” Walton said this spring. “You work on it, it’ll improve, and it’ll keep getting better. Football has a lot going on – you got splits, you got body size, you got field position, so you got different calls that puts you in those different positions, so you got to be able to plow all of that and know how it works so when you're at the top of the route, you're not in a bad position that makes you have to reach around.”

While refraining from grabbing opposing receivers is the obvious answer to how Igbinosun can reduce penalties, Walton believes it all starts with having proper footwork.

“Just moving his feet. Just feet drills, just moving his feet so you don't reach at the top,” Walton said when asked what he’s working on with Igbinosun to cut down on penalties. “Your eyes, feet, hands slide at the top so if you get your feet in the right position early in the down, that puts you in a better position at the top of the route so you don't have to reach as much.”
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SEC (It just means more.. even its losses are wins)

The conference does matter especially when you get below the B1G & SEC, that's pretty obvious.

At SOME POINT losses should matter though. But I get the feeling that SMU flopping on their face will make the committee think twice before ever giving a ACC type team like them the bid over a meh 3 loss Bama type team ever again.

The SEC is basically playing the "losses in the SEC should count less" card with their "LOOK AT HOW TOUGH OUR CONFERENCE SCHEDULE IS!" manifesto they sent out to the media. They are pretty much straight up ignoring that Bama and Ole Miss both lost 2/3 of their games to meh average at best teams.
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TenneCheat VolunTears (official thread)

If conference doesn't matter, then why do we have a thread, "It Just Means More?" Why are you on this thread worrying about yahoos from Nashville and Knoxville?

The strength of any conference does matter. It's why there are threads pissing and moaning about the chance that the ACC champion with 1 loss might get a better playoff slot than a 1 loss Buckeye team.

I don't root for other Big Ten teams before I root for the Buckeyes, but I want to see the conference as being better than the others. I don't want to be the guy who chants "Big Ten!" while Illinois beats Wake Forest (I also don't want to be Big Nut or the other doofuss in the cape and cowboy hat). But I do want to see conference strength helping the Buckeyes in the polls and in playoff seeding.
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SEC (It just means more.. even its losses are wins)

Not aimed at "mania," but this is why I think the conference matters. Win the ACC or Big Eight, you'd better have only one loss, or you better have some impressive outings in OOC games with SEC/Big 10 teams.

That's also why I want to see other Big 10 teams start earning their BTN dollars.

The conference does matter especially when you get below the B1G & SEC, that's pretty obvious.

At SOME POINT losses should matter though. But I get the feeling that SMU flopping on their face will make the committee think twice before ever giving a ACC type team like them the bid over a meh 3 loss Bama type team ever again.

The SEC is basically playing the "losses in the SEC should count less" card with their "LOOK AT HOW TOUGH OUR CONFERENCE SCHEDULE IS!" manifesto they sent out to the media. They are pretty much straight up ignoring that Bama and Ole Miss both lost 2/3 of their games to meh average at best teams.
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