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Game Thread #1 Texas at #2/#3 tOSU, Sat. Aug. 30th, 12pm ET, FOX

Dunno if we made it tougher or easier on the Browns today
cuz Arch ain't comin to the NFL in next years draft

I’ve not read through the game thread and have zero interest in doing so… so if this is a SIAP sitch… my bad… but I completely agree. He seem ed slow to process and his accuracy wasn’t exactly great. I hesitate to make such a statement as it was game 1 for him… and not in an easy place to play. But with a lot (most?) greats at the QB position, you can see the ceiling potential. I saw a high floor but not an exceptionally high ceiling either.


For two years he had the benefit of being of his name and being the most popular guy on campus (QB2)… I think that by the time he is done at UT people will speak of him in the same tones as they talk about Quinn. Good but not living up to the hype.
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2025 Heisman Trophy Discussion

Arch Manning's Heisman Trophy odds plummet after dreadful first start against Ohio State, no longer favorite

Arch Manning's tough day in Columbus saw his Heisman odds plummet​

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Coming into the season many in the Manning family were trying to pump the brakes on the hype surrounding Arch Manning's first year as a starter at Texas, and it appears the betting public would've been wise to heed the calls for patience from the elder Mannings.

Arch's first start for the No. 1 Longhorns came in hostile territory against No. 3 Ohio State, and the junior struggled mightily in the Horseshoe in a 14-7 loss. Manning went 17-for-30 passing for 170 yards, one touchdown and a woeful interception in the third quarter.

While the final stats weren't a complete catastrophe thanks to a pair of late big plays, it was a rough first start for Manning that took some shine off of his public perception as the next great quarterback in college football.

That was reflected most in the betting odds, as after starting the day as the 5-1 favorite to win the Heisman Trophy at FanDuel Sportsbook, Manning plummeted to third at 13-1, tied with Ohio State receiver Jeremiah Smith and trailing new co-favorites Clemson QB Cade Klubnik and LSU QB Garrett Nussmeier at 15/2.

Updated Heisman Trophy odds​

  • Cade Klubnik (15/2)
  • Garrett Nussmeier (15/2)
  • Jeremiah Smith (13-1)
  • Arch Manning (13-1)
  • LaNorris Sellers (16-1)
  • Drew Allar (16-1)
  • Ty Simpson (16-1)
  • Carson Beck (18-1)
  • Jackson Arnold (20-1)
  • Sam Leavitt (20-1)
  • Julian Sayin (25-1)
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2025 College Football Playoffs Discussion (12 Team Format)

Ohio State’s Win Over No. 1 Texas Despite Subpar Offensive Showing Shows National Championship Potential of 2025 Buckeyes​

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Ohio State defeated the No. 1 team in the country on Saturday and only accumulated 203 yards of total offense.

Jeremiah Smith and Max Klare had uncharacteristic drops early. While the running game had its highlight moments, it also struggled to find consistency against Texas’ vaunted defensive front. Julian Sayin, to his credit, kept his poise, managed the game efficiently in his first start and didn’t turn the ball over, but it was clear the game plan had training wheels on it. Ryan Day admitted after the game that he and offensive coordinator Brian Hartline called a conservative game plan offensively once they saw how dominant their defense was holding up against Arch

Manning, the No. 1 overall player in the 2023 recruiting class, but when all was said and done Sayin probably could have handled more than he was asked to do on Saturday.

“I thought Brian called an unselfish game,” Day said Saturday. “I thought the defense was playing well … We wanted to let them beat us. And for a first-time starter, you just don't want to put (Julian) in that situation. So hindsight says we did the right thing, but you're never too sure.”

Frankly, all of that is fair. And honestly, it’s pretty exciting if you think about it.

If the Buckeyes can already take down what was supposed to be the nation’s best team with their offense not firing on all cylinders quite yet, how dangerous can this team be once it reaches its final form? Smith isn’t going to drop passes like that every week — if you remember, he also dropped one in the season opener against Akron last year, too, and then didn’t drop another pass for the rest of the season. C.J. Stroud and Justin Fields didn’t look like finished products in their first career starts against premier opponents, and it’s safe to say Sayin’s stat lines are only going to get better from here.

“I was just going out there and focusing on my job,” Sayin said. “I think the defense played really well, obviously, and then the offensive line and the receivers and the running backs ran hard. So it kind of made my job easy just trying to distribute the ball.”

Ohio State already has a championship-caliber defense; it proved that on Saturday. Defensive coordinator Matt Patricia put Manning in a blender all day – a sentence that was last uttered sometime between 2016 and 2017 – and he disguised coverages and formations well all day. Caleb Downs continued to be a superstar and Arvell Reese sure seems like he’s well on his way to becoming one. Perhaps at least a small part of OSU’s success defensively can be attributed to nerves/ineffectiveness from the mega-hyped younger Manning. Regardless, if you asked the question, “Does Ohio State have a legitimate chance of repeating in 2025,” the defense responded with a resounding “yes.”
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Game Thread #1 Texas at #2/#3 tOSU, Sat. Aug. 30th, 12pm ET, FOX

I keep seeing all these excuses on social media about Manning playing in Columbus for his first start.

Pre Game: “Texas has too much fire power with Arch and this team. Ohio State has lost too much.”

Post-Gane: “It was a loaded Ohio State team in Columbus.”

And wasn’t it his 3rd start?
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2025 College Football Playoffs Discussion (12 Team Format)

Google AI: Quality wins for the College Football Playoff (CFP) are defined b y the selection committee's evaluation of a team's on-field performance, with recent changes to metrics including "record strength" and enhanced "strength of schedule". This new "record strength" metric specifically rewards teams for defeating high-quality opponents and applies less credit for beating weaker teams, while also minimizing the penalty for losing to a strong opponent. Other important factors remain: winning conference championships, head-to-head results, comparing results against common opponents, and the overall quality of a team's schedule.

Just sayin': I'll go out on a limb here and say after week #1 Ohio State now leads all of college football with the best "quality win"......:gagnam:
Yeah, but is it really a “quality win” when Ohio State beats a team that can lose to Ohio State?





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