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Game Thread #2 tOSU at #3 Oregon, Sat. Oct. 12, 7:30 pm ET, NBC

I’m disgusted with last nights performance….thought we were outclassed in a lot of areas, especially game management.

That said, the refs really botched the last minute of that game.

Few things….

1. The offensive PI on Jeremiah Smith was a trash call.

2. 99% of the time, when officials make a call like that, they will alert via the head referee to the teams, that “the game clock will start on my whistle” to make it clear. That didn’t happen and it caused mass confusion. I still think most referee crews would not have started the game clock upon placement of the ball. Smith caught the ball and went OB. To go back to previous play, and start the clock, is a bit muddled….even if technically correct, and I want to dive deeper, I don’t think most crews start that clock, but if they plan to, they absolutely make the announcement that clock will start on their whistle which was not done.

3. On this point, im 100% certain. When Oregon had 12 men on the field, there were 10 seconds on clock. After running the play, (4) seconds came off the clock moving it to (6) seconds. But OSU accepted the dead-ball penalty and 5 yards that came with it. Because OSU accepted the penalty, the clock should have reverted back to 10 seconds. It’d be the same as a team accepting a neutral zone penalty on the defense. Whatever time comes off the clock from the play is put back on because the team accepts the penalty from time of snap. That (4) seconds proved to be monumental.

4. Lastly, Will Howard began his slide with 1 second. It’s clear as can be when rewatching on slo-mo. With OSU having (1) TO, and players and coaches visibly signaling for a Time-out, a very strong case can be made as soon as Howard gives himself up via the slide, a TO should’ve been granted with 1 second…..I doubt Fielding makes a 48-49 yard kick but he should’ve had an opportunity.
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Game Thread tCun at tOSU, THE GAME, Sat. Nov. 30, 12pm ET, FOX

I realize there's a lot of emotional reactions going on during the half of the game in Eugene, and I'm not getting into that mix.
It's weird to think about how the playoffs have lessened the outcome of that game regardless of victor.
That's why I stand behind the Buckeyes talking about championship or bust and all that jazz.
But this game right here is all that matters to me year in / year out. The rest is just gravy.
Go Bucks!
We talk about NCs. Oregon talks about beating OSU. ScUM will do anything to beat us lie cheat or steal signs.
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HC Ryan Day (2019 B1G Media COY)

4-3 last 7. This is Days program now totally. The carryover in talent and attitude from Urban is long gone. Day replacing Urban is ending like the Earle after Woody era. Ugh
It’s certainly on a parallel trajectory other than Day has continued to bring in great talent on paper. I keep thinking is he Cooper or Bruce. Leaning more towards Cooper with the way he pisses down his leg in these games.
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HC Ryan Day (2019 B1G Media COY)

Not sure what to think but I won’t be expecting Day to come out of Happy Valley with a win or to ever come close to this level of financial support.
I think they beat Penn State and run the table because I think Franklin's going to fuck it up once again, but I'd be lying if I said I had faith in a B1G Championship or a deep playoff run. The losses are just looking too similar at this point.

Maybe the two best teams in the country played in Eugene last night and one just made one more play, but with how loaded this roster I expected dominance for 60 minutes. I dunno, with how weak college football is this year, even a single loss by this team feels like underachievement given how stacked it is.
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Game Thread #2 tOSU at #3 Oregon, Sat. Oct. 12, 7:30 pm ET, NBC

At some point you have to rip the bandaid off and move on from LJ. I would argue it should’ve been done at the end of last season. Yeah, you may lose some recruits but it needs to happen sooner rather than later.
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*2024 tCun Shenanigans, Arguments, Cobras, Feckless Marmots, Fake Pandas, Dirty Cheaters

They unironically know Connor was more important to last 3 years than Harbaugh. They do not care. Live with it.
But do they? So many of their fans still believe that the cheating had little to do with them winning. They also believe that Harbaughs a god and that no one is more important to their success than him. All you have to do is read their message boards to see this. They have their heads buried so far in the sand that is comical.
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Game Thread #2 tOSU at #3 Oregon, Sat. Oct. 12, 7:30 pm ET, NBC

-Offensive turnovers early. This team should have put up 41.

- The special teams gaffe.

Both HUGE momentum changers.


My issues primarily stem from the defense.

- Mental and execution lapses. DBs late and taking bad angles coming from depth. Ransom has been the biggest culprit the last couple years; highlighted by that big Dillon TD run late. Gabriel is a good athlete, not an elite runner that should have shook him like that.
- Oregon popping yardage on simple weakside runs because our edges fly too far upfield to compensate for a lack of elite twitch and bend. tOSU has had great defenses without any singular elite pass rusher. Layering your rush, being aggressive, technical, and maintaining gap integrity is all possible.

- coverage that is too aggressive on the perimeter when the pass rush isn't there. Giving up the long ball like the Bullets did last night was tragic, and Denzel lost a lot of money.



That's all I have for the moment until I rewatch.




Talent is necessary to be good.

Consistency is the key to being great.
This team lacks consistency.
It’s been said that JTT and Sawyer were/are first round picks and them coming back was huge. Sorry, I just don’t and haven’t seen it. JTT has occasional monster games. Sawyer has occasional plays in games, but neither are consistent game in and game out. Ransom coming back, again great experience but meh. Burke, just wow, what a mind numbing effort.

I really don’t know what Knowles is trying to do. Where’s the Jack that he was supposed to bring? LJ, what are you doing? Rushmen, who are they? Our Dline constantly gets pushed off the ball on run plays and there’s no pressure generated by the front 4 on pass plays. LBs, lots of high rated talent, but just sit back and wait instead of attacking. Back to giving up big plays in the secondary.

This defense is not as advertised for all the supposed talent we have.
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Game Thread #2 tOSU at #3 Oregon, Sat. Oct. 12, 7:30 pm ET, NBC

Agreed on all counts. I will reiterate though, that I am not seeing that Chip has made this offense dynamic, yet. Flashes maybe.
Man, we had almost 500 yards of offense and we aren’t dynamic? I think some people are having unrealistic expectations. We threw for more than 300 yards and rushed for more than 100. Were we perfect? Absolutely not but are those stats that should have been good enough to win? Absolutely.
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Game Thread #2 tOSU at #3 Oregon, Sat. Oct. 12, 7:30 pm ET, NBC

JTT WAS a Bosa/Young caliber recruit. He’s wildly inconsistent and disappears during games though. But as a recruit, he was on equal levels. Even if we get consistent pressure, that doesn’t keep Burke from missing tackles or getting burnt on almost every throw that went his way.
Yep, I was surprised to see Burke getting out-classed.
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HC Ryan Day (2019 B1G Media COY)

4-3 in his last 7 games? Did I read that correctly??
It absolutely sucks knowing they will never win these types of games with Day at the helm. It’s not that they lost on the road to #3…it’s the loss looks almost exactly like every big loss this guy has had. 11-2 and and a loss in the playoffs might be the ‘best’ scenario now. With injuries and lots of history to look back on I see a loss in slappy valley, getting the L hung on you by IU while looking ahead to scUM and then rolling over and quitting against the rival because the season is over that point. If that happens and Day is still the coach next year….man…what a disaster to witness. you can kid yourselves all you want…but after last night that finish is absolutely on the table.
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2024 tOSU Defense Discussion

Just caught myself thinking that I need to be thankful for Knowles and the rest of the staff on this side of the ball.

The discussions since Knowles got here has gotten progressively more favorable each season... and now we're to the point that they are executing on levels we've not seen for a good long time. Like as in Haf-days.

What a great hire, taking nothing away from the rest of his coaches... I'm sure they contribute significantly to their success. But to have them operating like they are takes one heck of a leader.
Ooops
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Game Thread #2 tOSU at #3 Oregon, Sat. Oct. 12, 7:30 pm ET, NBC

We have yet to see the D recruit some Bosa/Young caliber DE's. Gabriel had way too much time to throw the ball last night. Does Knowles get that fixed this season?
JTT WAS a Bosa/Young caliber recruit. He’s wildly inconsistent and disappears during games though. But as a recruit, he was on equal levels. Even if we get consistent pressure, that doesn’t keep Burke from missing tackles or getting burnt on almost every throw that went his way.
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Game Thread #2 tOSU at #3 Oregon, Sat. Oct. 12, 7:30 pm ET, NBC

We saw the drawback of adding the West Coast teams to the conference. It's hard to go all the way out there and win a football game. I don't know why they waited until Friday morning to leave. Thursday classes? No place to practice? NCAA needs to figure out conference alignments that make sense.

Regarding the 7 losses against top 5 teams, we know at least one of those will probably be vacated, assuming tcun was top 5 in 2022. If OSU wins the B1G championship, that's two victories against top 5 teams coming up. And I think OSU will be favored.
If we win the Conference Championship..I’d say if if if. . With Day it’s always if..,,
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