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Michigan State Spartans (official thread)

The interesting thing about this article is it actually states Michigan got away with it.



“First, the particulars: the NCAA on Wednesday placed Michigan State on probation for jaywalking, nearly three months to the day after allowing Michigan to get away with stone, cold murder.


The Spartans were forced to vacate 14 wins from 2022-24, while the Wolverines were allowed to keep their national title. A blatant protection of the blue blood university, and an obvious takedown of little brother.”
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2025 College Football Playoffs Discussion (12 Team Format)

I understand that, but I don't give two turds in a coffee cup about thinking like an SEC hack. I'm talking about real life thinking.

Take specifics out.
Conference A has one really good (great) team, and 3-4 "good" teams. Only two of those "good" teams make it into the playoffs, and no one sheds a tear about any other "good" teams that didn't make the playoffs. The two teams lose in the first and second rounds, respectively. The great team gets to the finals. Say they win it all. No one else in the conference impresses anyone.
Conference B has 6-7 "good" teams, of which 5 make the playoffs. The rest of the conference is "meh". One team loses in the first round, two in the second, and two lose in the semifinals. No teams make the finals.

Which conference is better?

For the record, I'll vote that Conference B is better. But... I don't care which conference is better. If my team loses in the playoffs, the conferences can drink their coffee out of a coffee cup that I didn't put two turds in. I want my team to be the winner. If some nerd thinks he can make me cry by saying that his conference is better than mine, he can have fun thinking that. But maybe he's right.
My argument is: I root for a team, not a conference. Fuck those other guys, my team or bust. All the hypothetical arguments piss me off, too. Can't be proven right or wrong, and we'll likely never ever ever know anyway, so why waste time on it? Games are played on the field. Likewise, I don't care if "Alabama would crush them if the game was played today". Well, the game was played in September, and ya'll lost by 2 scores. The facts show that 2 of the top 4 teams in one conference lost week 1 out of conference games, one was a really really bad loss in hindsight. Now I'm rambling. Basically, I pretty much agree with what Zurp said.
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2025 College Football Playoffs Discussion (12 Team Format)

You gotta think like a SEC SEC SEC! hack here. Postseason results may only be used to point out strength when the SEC does well. If the SEC does not do well "you can't judge them based on the postseason!"
I understand that, but I don't give two turds in a coffee cup about thinking like an SEC hack. I'm talking about real life thinking.

Take specifics out.
Conference A has one really good (great) team, and 3-4 "good" teams. Only two of those "good" teams make it into the playoffs, and no one sheds a tear about any other "good" teams that didn't make the playoffs. The two teams lose in the first and second rounds, respectively. The great team gets to the finals. Say they win it all. No one else in the conference impresses anyone.
Conference B has 6-7 "good" teams, of which 5 make the playoffs. The rest of the conference is "meh". One team loses in the first round, two in the second, and two lose in the semifinals. No teams make the finals.

Which conference is better?

For the record, I'll vote that Conference B is better. But... I don't care which conference is better. If my team loses in the playoffs, the conferences can drink their coffee out of a coffee cup that I didn't put two turds in. I want my team to be the winner. If some nerd thinks he can make me cry by saying that his conference is better than mine, he can have fun thinking that. But maybe he's right.
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J.J. McCarthy (once a tCun, always a tCun)

McCarthy suffered a torn meniscus in his right knee during the preseason. He underwent surgery in August 2024 to repair the injury, which ended his rookie season before it began. He missed the entire 2024 NFL season due to the injury.
But I would have said, "The cheater is in his second year in the league, sitting out his first year because he wasn't very good and the Vikings didn't want to make it look like they wasted a first-round pick on a bad player, so they faked an injury to give him more time to prepare."

I think that is more accurate and the words just flow better than to say, "He's a rookie."
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