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OC Arthur Smith (Official Thread)

BuckeyeNation27
Thump said:
Not Arthur Smith” is not an acceptable answer BN27 for as hard as you have gone after the hire.

If you are going to die on this hill, you at least have to give some alternatives.
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Sorry....I don't agree. People who say this are just looking for a way to rip apart my suggestions in some kind of gotcha moment. Let's say the person hired was an assistant poop cleaner at the San Diego Zoo. Or maybe it's a new born baby. Or maybe it's a rock painted green. I don't have to offer up alternative names to say all three of those are bad ideas, right? You wouldn't fight me if they hired a 17 year old girl from Japan who has never watched football and speaks zero English, right? That would be absurd. I'm putting Arthur Smith on the same list.
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OC Arthur Smith (Official Thread)

BuckeyeNation27
pnuts34 said:
My mental well being is fine, and yours should be too. We root for the same time, but have differing views on this hire. And that's OK.
The AFC North was a terrible division, but 1 team had to win it. Arthur Smith was the OC of the team that won. Nothing about that is misleading, it is a fact. Of course the team won it as a whole, we all know that. You're trying to be petty and act like I'm meaning he won it on his own. Of course he didn't, but he led the offense which scored points, which led them to winning the division, again another fact. You keep ignoring the fact that the teams he had were not very talented(he also doesn't use TEs as much as you say, though he under utilized Bijan), and were quite limited, idk what else to tell you and I'm sorry if that doesn't help your well being.
Everyone has an opinion of a hire until the games are played, and the truth is shown. OSU fans questioned: Hartline, Day, LJsr, and Kelly to name a few, but yet those same fans loved the Coombs hire for DC. We literally will not know a thing until games are played.

I'm not sure what you're looking for me to tell you. I refuse to spend an off season complaining about the hire, as opposed to seeing the positives in it. There are countless other teams who would love to be in our fan position. I have buddies who are fans of FSU, Purdue, Texas, South Carolina, UVA, VA Tech, NC State, etc and all would love to be in our position, and Smith would be considered a steal to them.
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How many times do I have to say I'm not talking about the hire right now. I just want to know that a respected poster knows that they're saying something disingenuous and can at least admit to it. I'll try to spell it out even further.

You said the Steelers won the division....and you left it at that. What I'm assuming you meant by that is that something must have been successful with the offense in order to win the division.....otherwise, why even bring it up, right? But that's not something I will concede, because I don't think the Steelers offense was good this year...and I don't think winning that division was anything other than being the tallest midget. I think you brought it up to carry more weight than it's capable of carrying.....and I was just hoping you knew that.
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OC Arthur Smith (Official Thread)

pnuts34
BuckeyeNation27 said:
You know what I mean, and you're too smart for this. It's disingenuous. You're saying it as if that means he's good at his job. Certainly every coach on staff must be good, because look......they won a whole division.

Like, come on. You know it was a garbage division. You know the Steelers were not a good football team this year. You know the strength of the Steelers is the defense. Just saying "Hey HE won the division" isn't intellectually honest.....because 1) HE didn't win it, the team as a whole did, and 2) that was the worst division in the sport by a long shot. Don't quote me on this, because I don't know the exact scenarios....but at one point with like 4 or 5 games left, I read that they could have finished 8-9 and still won the division. Just saying "they won the division" is intentionally hiding how not good of a team they were. They weren't BAD, they were just not good.

This is outside the discussion of if Smith is a good hire or not. I just need to know that you know this, for my own mental well being.


I also don't think I posted any stats about him.....so I don't think I cherry picked any. I think I just said shit like he loves TEs and couldn't figure out how to have success with Bijan Robinson. But if I cherry picked something I'll admit to it, if your mental well being is on the line.
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My mental well being is fine, and yours should be too. We root for the same time, but have differing views on this hire. And that's OK.
The AFC North was a terrible division, but 1 team had to win it. Arthur Smith was the OC of the team that won. Nothing about that is misleading, it is a fact. Of course the team won it as a whole, we all know that. You're trying to be petty and act like I'm meaning he won it on his own. Of course he didn't, but he led the offense which scored points, which led them to winning the division, again another fact. You keep ignoring the fact that the teams he had were not very talented(he also doesn't use TEs as much as you say, though he under utilized Bijan), and were quite limited, idk what else to tell you and I'm sorry if that doesn't help your well being.
Everyone has an opinion of a hire until the games are played, and the truth is shown. OSU fans questioned: Hartline, Day, LJsr, and Kelly to name a few, but yet those same fans loved the Coombs hire for DC. We literally will not know a thing until games are played.

I'm not sure what you're looking for me to tell you. I refuse to spend an off season complaining about the hire, as opposed to seeing the positives in it. There are countless other teams who would love to be in our fan position. I have buddies who are fans of FSU, Purdue, Texas, South Carolina, UVA, VA Tech, NC State, etc and all would love to be in our position, and Smith would be considered a steal to them.
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