LordJeffBuck said:

I suppose that there's some recency bias at work, but doesn't the 2025-26 Indiana team have to be in the discussion for best ever? A 16-0 record with "playoff" wins against powerhouse programs Ohio State, Alabama, Oregon, and Miami, not to mention the Heisman Trophy winner.

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Greatest team debate could be based on talent of the players on it vs body of work.

Sometimes there is overlap but in this case it may not.

But first and only 16-0 with the championship game and playoff run they had is definitely worthy of being in the discussion.

AuTX Buckeye said:

really? Indy went undefeated, barely rotated players, and didn't seem to have many injuries.... unlike us that seem to wear down due to lack of rotation.... Micks been here forever... sometimes things need to change to freshen things up

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Can’t disagree with you on the lack of rotation. This is certainly something we’ve seen with Day over his tenure.

jwinslow said:

The strength coach isn't why hicks, beau, and others were not playing.

It was last year that they were on fire late in the year. Because they had great talent and veterans who had been through a lot of wars.

Maybe they need a new coach, maybe not, but mick would suddenly coach a lot better if you gave him a senior Arvell, Caleb, mcdonald, etc to work with. And his secondary might look better with the vets they added compared to departing faheem, haddad and Scott.

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yes, the average age of the young men he is training certainly was a factor. 23-25 yr olds vs 18-21 yr olds is a definite advantage

AuTX Buckeye said:

really? Indy went undefeated, barely rotated players, and didn't seem to have many injuries.... unlike us that seem to wear down due to lack of rotation.... Micks been here forever... sometimes things need to change to freshen things up

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The strength coach isn't why hicks, beau, and others were not playing.

It was last year that they were on fire late in the year. Because they had great talent and veterans who had been through a lot of wars.

Maybe they need a new coach, maybe not, but mick would suddenly coach a lot better if you gave him a senior Arvell, Caleb, mcdonald, etc to work with. And his 2026 secondary might look better with the vets they added compared to if they only reloaded using faheem, haddad and Scott.

Do we just rename this the BigTen Championship. Not a question.

buckeyebri said:

Might not be the flex they think it is

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really? Indy went undefeated, barely rotated players, and didn't seem to have many injuries.... unlike us that seem to wear down due to lack of rotation.... Micks been here forever... sometimes things need to change to freshen things up

Might not be the flex they think it is

BuckTwenty said:

Not just the Big Ten, but the Big Ten East going back-to-back :)

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Not just the Big Ten, but the Big Ten East going back-to-back-to-back :)

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not really shocking ... he wasn't given the job and they got another portal QB... will be interesting

Is it too early to start the countdown clock;-)

Car showed 0 degrees this morning. Forecast is calling for -6 Friday night into Saturday morning.

All I know is last night in the tree stand was the coldest I have been in some time. It was the wind that did it.

Hey. At least it is sunny today!!!