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HC Ryan Day (B1G Coach of Year, B1G Champion, National Champion)

sparcboxbuck
exhawg said:
As disappointed as we are right now, if you had told me we would beat TSUN and lose in the second round of the CFP before the season, I would have taken it. Hopefully Matty P can do it again next year, but the offense should be light years better. Maybe, rather than playing slow to stay fresh, play fast and roll in more players to get a similar number of reps per player as playing slow.
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If you would have told me that in the beginning of the season, I’m not sure that I would have taken it. I really enjoyed Natty run…

But I’d be a liar if I didn’t say that I’m sitting here typing this and still feel pretty good about the season. Even after the Natty there was something that just felt hollow about it. I’m pretty sure that it was the W in AA (as to why I feel good this year). At least, that’s what I’m attributing it to.

I’m not sure that I’d feel that way every year, but for this year? Damn, it feels good to be a gangsta.
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2026 tOSU Offense Discussion

sparcboxbuck
Jaxbuck said:
Agreed.

Problem is you can’t be all things all times. It’s hard to deviate from what you primarily do no matter what it is.

But in-game with the skill advantage I’d go faster at first build the lead, grab an “extra” possession before the half etc if my team could do it well. I’d consider the possibility of it failing and weigh the risk /reward.

In 2025 I don’t think Sayin could do it well. Kid just wasn’t ready to be that guy yet no matter what.
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Yup. I think that the pace of play was dictated by Day not wanting to destroy a QB. It will be very interesting to see what happens next year. Sadly, there’s too many variables in play to really determine if it was related to Sayin being young or if it was the OC or what.
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2026 tOSU Offense Discussion

Jaxbuck
sparcboxbuck said:
I totally agree. Pretty much on every point you made. I do, however, think that the strategy deployed is situational by game / opponent and potentially within a game depending on the score. I don’t think that you’re suggesting otherwise, but just to put it out there.
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Agreed.

Problem is you can’t be all things all times. It’s hard to deviate from what you primarily do no matter what it is.

But in-game with the skill advantage I’d go faster at first build the lead, grab an “extra” possession before the half etc if my team could do it well. I’d consider the possibility of it failing and weigh the risk /reward.

In 2025 I don’t think Sayin could do it well. Kid just wasn’t ready to be that guy yet no matter what.
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2026 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, Arrogant Twatwaffles, Emasculated Cucks, Feckless Marmots, Dirty Cheaters "Mid"chigan

Gizmo said:
Why wouldn't kids play 4+ years at this point? More money from NIL than the NFL for the "good" ones, and everyone else isn't going to the NFL anyway.
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RBs are questionable cause there shelflife in the NFL is poor
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2026 tOSU Offense Discussion

sparcboxbuck
Jaxbuck said:
Going back to my fundamental model of an outcome (skill + random variance = outcome)

My issue is (and this is what's changed for me as a football observer over the years), I don't care how good the defense is, RV/"luck" is asymmetrical on the defensive side of the ball. When that skinny tail variance expresses itself on defense, the opponent scores. Springs slips.

As a general strategy (not talking about in game tactical uses of tempo) therefore, I would always optimize to play as few defensive snaps as possible if I had the better team. The surest path to victory in football is to have the per play points advantage because of your skill and to have more offensive plays relative to your opponent...not just absolute, volume more plays because you are actually increasing your odds of winning by limiting their chance at luck.

In general, every offensive snap is a chance for you to express skill and suppress luck. Every defensive snap is an elevated chance for the lesser skilled team to get lucky. It's like giving them more lottery tickets or playing Russian Roulette with more bullets, not fewer.

So anyway, you clearly understand it so that's my only actual point on the risk mitigation/constraint/game theory side of it.

My main argument is that people are confusing the undesirable outcome with the approach and this is the real mistake. Not once have I seen anyone who says "go faster" give equal mind share to the very real possibility that you fail and just end up punting faster.

It's a very common cognitive bias buy essentially it's if they just did this we would have won.
they get x = desired outcome anchored and give zero credence to the possibility of failure of x

It's why the Spinal Tap bit on "these go to 11" is so funny, it hits close to the mark on the truth of the human existence.

NT: "If we sped up, we'd have more chances"
Marty: "What if you sped up and just punted faster?"
NT (long pause): "If we sped up we'd have more chances"
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I totally agree. Pretty much on every point you made. I do, however, think that the strategy deployed is situational by game / opponent and potentially within a game depending on the score. I don’t think that you’re suggesting otherwise, but just to put it out there.
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