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2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, Arrogant Twatwaffles, Emasculated Cucks, Feckless Marmots, Dirty Cheaters "Mid"chigan

It really doesn't come down to religion. It comes down to where you been and what relationships you have. Of course bags can help, but in the end a coach needs a solid base to grow from, and throwing money at elite recruits and portal transfers can fill a void, but they can't build that base. Whittingham's coaching career is centered in Utah and Idaho. From there, he may have grabbed some recruits from the western states, and leaned on the mormonism. That is his base.

What happens when he rolls into a high school in Columbus, someplace in GA, FL or VA and has no relationship there to roll from? It is that much harder. And even if you get a recruit, they may not be totally bought in, because they were literally bought.

The only saving grace for Whittingham is the current climate of paying for rosters, but that isn't a recipe for sustained success, which makes me think maybe Scum wants 2 good years from Whittingham to get a coach that can bring that potential sustained success. That is the current climate.
I’d just say “the brotherhood” at OSU is real…..even kids who transfer usually do so under very amicable circumstances. “The brotherhood” also really sells recruits, as they see how strong the culture is within the program.

Georgia has a “weird” driving issue amongst its team, but when you look at their roster retention, it’s pretty special. Georgia continually has the fewest transfer portal players that get snaps amongst P4 teams.

Dan Lanning wears his religion on his sleeve….

Just a few examples….you’re right, some kids do just “chase bags” but those haven’t really been the kids the truly elite programs have chased. Texas A&M fits that mold, and this was as close as they’ve gotten which was an awful performance in playoffs.
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2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, Arrogant Twatwaffles, Emasculated Cucks, Feckless Marmots, Dirty Cheaters "Mid"chigan

I don’t want this come across the wrong way at all, but I’m really curious to see how an openly devout Mormon, recruits nationally to a national powerhouse program. It’s one thing when you’re the Head Coach of Utah or BYU, and you have a pipeline of Mormon kids in that geographical area to pull from.

Whatever your opinion on religion, many coaches/programs build their culture and identity around Christianity….the Buckeyes being one of them….it really connects with a lot of recruits parents as well.

I’m not a very religious person so again, I’m not knocking the Mormon faith or Whittingham…..I just wonder when he’s sitting at a kitchen table trying to pull a kid to Michigan, and you’ve got Ryan Day, Dan Lanning, Kirby Smart all pitching “their culture” and it resonates a lot more because the Mormon faith is a bit foreign to a large portion of the United States. Just something to think about…

Ultimately, I really think he’s just being paid to get them through the next 3-4 years with as little off the field damage as possible so I don’t think Michigan really cares that much about national recruiting at moment anyways…
It really doesn't come down to religion. It comes down to where you been and what relationships you have. Of course bags can help, but in the end a coach needs a solid base to grow from, and throwing money at elite recruits and portal transfers can fill a void, but they can't build that base. Whittingham's coaching career is centered in Utah and Idaho. From there, he may have grabbed some recruits from the western states, and leaned on the mormonism. That is his base.

What happens when he rolls into a high school in Columbus, someplace in GA, FL or VA and has no relationship there to roll from? It is that much harder. And even if you get a recruit, they may not be totally bought in, because they were literally bought.

The only saving grace for Whittingham is the current climate of paying for rosters, but that isn't a recipe for sustained success, which makes me think maybe Scum wants 2 good years from Whittingham to get a coach that can bring that potential sustained success. That is the current climate.
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2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, Arrogant Twatwaffles, Emasculated Cucks, Feckless Marmots, Dirty Cheaters "Mid"chigan

I don’t want this come across the wrong way at all, but I’m really curious to see how an openly devout Mormon, recruits nationally to a national powerhouse program. It’s one thing when you’re the Head Coach of Utah or BYU, and you have a pipeline of Mormon kids in that geographical area to pull from.

Whatever your opinion on religion, many coaches/programs build their culture and identity around Christianity….the Buckeyes being one of them….it really connects with a lot of recruits parents as well.

I’m not a very religious person so again, I’m not knocking the Mormon faith or Whittingham…..I just wonder when he’s sitting at a kitchen table trying to pull a kid to Michigan, and you’ve got Ryan Day, Dan Lanning, Kirby Smart all pitching “their culture” and it resonates a lot more because the Mormon faith is a bit foreign to a large portion of the United States. Just something to think about…

Ultimately, I really think he’s just being paid to get them through the next 3-4 years with as little off the field damage as possible so I don’t think Michigan really cares that much about national recruiting at moment anyways…
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Ky"L"e Whittingham, scUM's Head Football Coach

I’m actually happy to see Wink Martingdale will be on his way out…

Say what you will about the Michigan program…but their defense has been very stout and it’s been a continuance of the Ravens system even when they bring new coordinators in.

Bringing in the BYU DC, who has been very successful throughout his career (all in the Mountain West/Utah area)….it breaks that NFL/Ravens cycle…which I’m personally happy about.

The kids that stay will have to learn an entirely new system which in many cases means 2-3 years of development for that scheme is essentially wasted.
I think Michigan's success on D in '23 and '24 was more due to Graham, Grant and other talent, than Wink. Same with any good years he had with the Ravens. This year's D was very avg.
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Look Who's Transferring Now (The Portal)

I’m not saying that the numbers aren’t correct, but I’m just saying that a number of these players are transferring in hopes the next school pays more and might provide more PT. And if the NFL was still the end game for so many, then they wouldn’t keep returning back to college in record numbers. There wouldn’t be so many 6th year seniors and players filing for extra years in college if they were so keen to go to the NFL. Diego Paivea is pleading for a 7th year in college rather than declare for the NFL. Years ago that’d be insane to think, and many would think that he should declare and not worry when he’ll get drafted. But we all know he’ll barely get drafted so returning to college would be more lucrative

https://www.espn.com/college-footba...ootball-2025-transfer-portal-experience-added

It’s because the NIL $$$ is guaranteed versus competing for a roster spot on a 53 man roster in NFL……as a 4th, 5th, 6th, etc pick…..you aren’t making very much EVEN if you somehow make the 53 man roster.

It’s really hard to make an active NFL roster which is why you see guys now maxing out college eligibility…..the NFL players and GM’s like it too bc the veteran players aren’t forced out quite as quickly and the kids are coming in more developed and mature. The GM’s can make way better decisions on 2nd contracts now as well….
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