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2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, Arrogant Twatwaffles, Emasculated Cucks, Feckless Marmots, Dirty Cheaters "Mid"chigan

billmac91
osuvictory1 said:
It really doesn't come down to religion. It comes down to where you been and what relationships you have. Of course bags can help, but in the end a coach needs a solid base to grow from, and throwing money at elite recruits and portal transfers can fill a void, but they can't build that base. Whittingham's coaching career is centered in Utah and Idaho. From there, he may have grabbed some recruits from the western states, and leaned on the mormonism. That is his base.

What happens when he rolls into a high school in Columbus, someplace in GA, FL or VA and has no relationship there to roll from? It is that much harder. And even if you get a recruit, they may not be totally bought in, because they were literally bought.

The only saving grace for Whittingham is the current climate of paying for rosters, but that isn't a recipe for sustained success, which makes me think maybe Scum wants 2 good years from Whittingham to get a coach that can bring that potential sustained success. That is the current climate.
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I’d just say “the brotherhood” at OSU is real…..even kids who transfer usually do so under very amicable circumstances. “The brotherhood” also really sells recruits, as they see how strong the culture is within the program.

Georgia has a “weird” driving issue amongst its team, but when you look at their roster retention, it’s pretty special. Georgia continually has the fewest transfer portal players that get snaps amongst P4 teams.

Dan Lanning wears his religion on his sleeve….

Just a few examples….you’re right, some kids do just “chase bags” but those haven’t really been the kids the truly elite programs have chased. Texas A&M fits that mold, and this was as close as they’ve gotten which was an awful performance in playoffs.
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2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, Arrogant Twatwaffles, Emasculated Cucks, Feckless Marmots, Dirty Cheaters "Mid"chigan

osuvictory1
billmac91 said:
I don’t want this come across the wrong way at all, but I’m really curious to see how an openly devout Mormon, recruits nationally to a national powerhouse program. It’s one thing when you’re the Head Coach of Utah or BYU, and you have a pipeline of Mormon kids in that geographical area to pull from.

Whatever your opinion on religion, many coaches/programs build their culture and identity around Christianity….the Buckeyes being one of them….it really connects with a lot of recruits parents as well.

I’m not a very religious person so again, I’m not knocking the Mormon faith or Whittingham…..I just wonder when he’s sitting at a kitchen table trying to pull a kid to Michigan, and you’ve got Ryan Day, Dan Lanning, Kirby Smart all pitching “their culture” and it resonates a lot more because the Mormon faith is a bit foreign to a large portion of the United States. Just something to think about…

Ultimately, I really think he’s just being paid to get them through the next 3-4 years with as little off the field damage as possible so I don’t think Michigan really cares that much about national recruiting at moment anyways…
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It really doesn't come down to religion. It comes down to where you been and what relationships you have. Of course bags can help, but in the end a coach needs a solid base to grow from, and throwing money at elite recruits and portal transfers can fill a void, but they can't build that base. Whittingham's coaching career is centered in Utah and Idaho. From there, he may have grabbed some recruits from the western states, and leaned on the mormonism. That is his base.

What happens when he rolls into a high school in Columbus, someplace in GA, FL or VA and has no relationship there to roll from? It is that much harder. And even if you get a recruit, they may not be totally bought in, because they were literally bought.

The only saving grace for Whittingham is the current climate of paying for rosters, but that isn't a recipe for sustained success, which makes me think maybe Scum wants 2 good years from Whittingham to get a coach that can bring that potential sustained success. That is the current climate.
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2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, Arrogant Twatwaffles, Emasculated Cucks, Feckless Marmots, Dirty Cheaters "Mid"chigan

billmac91
I don’t want this come across the wrong way at all, but I’m really curious to see how an openly devout Mormon, recruits nationally to a national powerhouse program. It’s one thing when you’re the Head Coach of Utah or BYU, and you have a pipeline of Mormon kids in that geographical area to pull from.

Whatever your opinion on religion, many coaches/programs build their culture and identity around Christianity….the Buckeyes being one of them….it really connects with a lot of recruits parents as well.

I’m not a very religious person so again, I’m not knocking the Mormon faith or Whittingham…..I just wonder when he’s sitting at a kitchen table trying to pull a kid to Michigan, and you’ve got Ryan Day, Dan Lanning, Kirby Smart all pitching “their culture” and it resonates a lot more because the Mormon faith is a bit foreign to a large portion of the United States. Just something to think about…

Ultimately, I really think he’s just being paid to get them through the next 3-4 years with as little off the field damage as possible so I don’t think Michigan really cares that much about national recruiting at moment anyways…
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Ky"L"e Whittingham, scUM's Head Football Coach

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billmac91 said:
I’m actually happy to see Wink Martingdale will be on his way out…

Say what you will about the Michigan program…but their defense has been very stout and it’s been a continuance of the Ravens system even when they bring new coordinators in.

Bringing in the BYU DC, who has been very successful throughout his career (all in the Mountain West/Utah area)….it breaks that NFL/Ravens cycle…which I’m personally happy about.

The kids that stay will have to learn an entirely new system which in many cases means 2-3 years of development for that scheme is essentially wasted.
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I think Michigan's success on D in '23 and '24 was more due to Graham, Grant and other talent, than Wink. Same with any good years he had with the Ravens. This year's D was very avg.
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Look Who's Transferring Now (The Portal)

billmac91
pnuts34 said:
I’m not saying that the numbers aren’t correct, but I’m just saying that a number of these players are transferring in hopes the next school pays more and might provide more PT. And if the NFL was still the end game for so many, then they wouldn’t keep returning back to college in record numbers. There wouldn’t be so many 6th year seniors and players filing for extra years in college if they were so keen to go to the NFL. Diego Paivea is pleading for a 7th year in college rather than declare for the NFL. Years ago that’d be insane to think, and many would think that he should declare and not worry when he’ll get drafted. But we all know he’ll barely get drafted so returning to college would be more lucrative

https://www.espn.com/college-footba...ootball-2025-transfer-portal-experience-added
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It’s because the NIL $$$ is guaranteed versus competing for a roster spot on a 53 man roster in NFL……as a 4th, 5th, 6th, etc pick…..you aren’t making very much EVEN if you somehow make the 53 man roster.

It’s really hard to make an active NFL roster which is why you see guys now maxing out college eligibility…..the NFL players and GM’s like it too bc the veteran players aren’t forced out quite as quickly and the kids are coming in more developed and mature. The GM’s can make way better decisions on 2nd contracts now as well….
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2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, Arrogant Twatwaffles, Emasculated Cucks, Feckless Marmots, Dirty Cheaters "Mid"chigan

osuvictory1 said:
Judging from 2025, Underwood has 2 choices. 1. Stay and collect a bag and maybe get drafted. Or 2. get less money and go to a program and sit behind somebody for a season like Dante Moore and really learn.
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Go to LSU get bag aand also possibly start?
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2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, Arrogant Twatwaffles, Emasculated Cucks, Feckless Marmots, Dirty Cheaters "Mid"chigan

osuvictory1
Mike80 said:
Doubt it. He's the guaranteed starter despite throwing like Edward Scissorhands. That's not going to happen anywhere else for at least a year.
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Is he a guaranteed starter though? Whittingham's offense is reliant on a dual threat, with a emphasis on the running part of the dual.

Whittingham is playing with house money. Why does he give a shit if a over hyped kid bolts. Scum is in a vulnerable position.
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osuvictory1
Mike80 said:
Doubt it. He's the guaranteed starter despite throwing like Edward Scissorhands. That's not going to happen anywhere else for at least a year.
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The only reason he stays is to collect the rest, which in all fairness is life changing money. Ok, looking at what he did this year, just take the money kid and hope for the best. You can get one more year in transfer to Central Michigan.
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QB Kirk ‘Nightmare On’ Herbstreit (Frosted Quips, False Narratives Clown, Afraid of THE Lunatic Fringe)

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So you know a guy doesn’t like dogs and your instinct is to bring your dog over and force him to interact with it. And then you act like you’re some sort of hero for it? Fuck that. Either Kirk took it into his hands to force someone to be around an animal they don’t like which is fucked up or this is all scripted bullshit and it’s just fucking pathetic. Either way, it’s more nothing more than middle school “look at me” behavior by an insecure little fucker.
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Tom Izzo (HC Michigan St. Spartans)

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Tom Izzo Rips NCAA Over Former NBA Draft Pick Committing to Baylor

Tom Izzo spoke out against the NCAA after former NBA draft pick James Nnaji’s commitment to Baylor
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Tom Izzo Rips NCAA Over Former NBA Draft Pick Committing to Baylor​

James Nnaji the 31st pick in the 2023 NBA draft, recently committed to play for Scott Drew and Baylor.

In the ever-changing landscape of college sports, another seismic shift came recently with the news of former NBA draft pick James Nnaji’s commitment to Baylor. Nnaji, the 31st pick in the 2023 NBA draft, has played in Europe since he was drafted and the Knicks currently own his draft rights.

He has never appeared in an NBA game, but taking the college route sparks an immediate question about the harsh reality of college sports in the modern age. Michigan State coach Tom Izzo hasn’t been afraid to criticize the NCAA in its new age of NIL, most recently for the decision to grant eligibility to multiple former NBA G League players to play college basketball. The legendary Spartans coach always sticks up for the integrity of the game and especially its players. He was asked about Nnaji’s commitment and provided some candid thoughts for the NCAA to chew on.

“Now we’re taking guys that were drafted in the NBA and everything,” Izzo said via Spartans Illustrated. “I said it to you a month and a half ago, come on Magic [Johnson] and Gary [Harris], let’s go baby. Let’s do it, why not? If that’s what we’re going through, shame on the NCAA. Shame on the coaches too, but shame on the NCAA. Because coaches are going to do what they got to do I guess, but the NCAA is the one.

“Those people on those committees that are making those decisions to allow something so ridiculous and not think of the kid. Everybody talks about me thinking about my program as selfish, no. Get that straight for all of you, I’m thinking of what is best for my son if he was in that position. And I just don’t agree with it.”

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'This s*** is crazy' — Baylor's addition of James Nnaji further blurs line between pro and college hoops

The combination of schools looking for players outside the traditional recruiting realm and judges eroding the NCAA’s ability to enforce eligibility rules has led everyone here, whether they like it or not.
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'This s*** is crazy' — Baylor's addition of James Nnaji further blurs line between pro and college hoops​

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It’s rare for a college basketball story to enter the mainstream sports conversation on Christmas Eve, but Baylor’s announcement that it had added center James Nnaji — the 31st pick in the 2023 NBA Draft — was enough of a “What are we doing here?” moment for it to break through.

Though college sports is now professional in almost every sense — including players who have signed pro contracts in Europe and the NBA G League finding their way to college basketball this year — the Nnaji development feels like new territory. This isn’t someone who slipped through the cracks or got bad advice, turned pro out of high school and ran into a career dead end. Nnaji, who has been playing in Europe, was one draft slot away from being a first-round pick with a guaranteed NBA contract. He played in the NBA Summer League and has even been part of a trade.

“Santa Claus is delivering mid season acquisitions…this s*** is crazy!!” UConn coach Dan Hurley wrote on X shortly after the news became public.

Is this really the type of player who should be part of college basketball? Who knows, maybe Arizona can get LeBron James on the bench for its Final Four push if he wants to play with his son Bryce.... :lol:

That would be absurd, of course — and, to be clear, expressly against NCAA rules since these pro-to-college cases must take place within five years of high school — but you can be forgiven if it seems like anything goes these days.

And guess what? As more college programs pursue mid-year additions, some have even checked in with G League players on two-way contracts who have appeared in actual NBA games. That seems inevitable at some point, too, given where this trend seems to be headed.

But don’t blame Baylor or any program for pursuing those players.

While you’d be hard-pressed to find anyone in college sports who thinks this is a good development, schools are merely doing what the NCAA has given them the green light to do as it waits and hopes for some kind of antitrust protection from Congress that would allow for the actual enforcement of the rulebook rather than a mishmash of eligibility rulings.
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Just sayin': Who knew that you could get drafted by the NBA, play professionally in Europe, and then still be eligible to play college basketball? He's listed (below) on Baylor's roster as a Freshman:

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