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HC Ryan Day (B1G Coach of Year, B1G Champion, National Champion)

i agree that sayin looked uncomfortable. at some point it was clear that Day told him to get the f*ck out of the pocket if it's collapsing. he did better throwing on the run but that takes away a lot of options that he's had all year.

imagine sayin was double-pumping because he got paranoid after the pick he threw, not for some other real reason. he would've done that against tsun as well, but tsun wasn't able to pressure him. so i think sayin needs to work that twitchiness out somehow. thought it would've been worked out during practice, though, against our 1's on the defense.

I saw one play for absolute certain that he pulled it down to avoid what was going to be a clear pick. Imo, he was reading things properly and then they were changing faster than he has ever seen. He (probably) did a good job not to throw a few more picks. I really think people will see this in a different light when the X & O guys do their thing.

I still say the issues last night were 1a) Game plan and adjustment 1b) Interior OL got whipped. Sayin's performance is down around 9th or 10th thing.
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HC Ryan Day (B1G Coach of Year, B1G Champion, National Champion)

You can't just change who you are even if you think it's a good idea, which I don't think it would be.

Every outcome is based on skill + luck. When you are confident in your superior skill, you want to suppress luck because that's the only thing that can help your opponent.

If I have a big advantage per play, I want fewer plays.

If I have a small advantage per play, I want more plays.
Yes, I don’t disagree with any of this and I still think that when matched up against a better than usual opponent, that is the time to overwhelm and end them early. What’s the point of having better talent if you don’t use it when you need it. Playing the same efficiency game as always lowers your margin for error. Going forward against CFP-level teams, I hope we come out hard and put it out of reach for them early. Then, we can sleeper hold them.
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2025 College Football Playoffs Discussion (12 Team Format)

Cotton. I had heard that Ohio state would prefer the cotton not considering opponent. Hopefully Miami can win it.
Yes. Pulling for Miami but if there’s one defensive line that can hurt us it’s Miami.

That’s what it’ll take to beat this OSU team.
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HC Ryan Day (B1G Coach of Year, B1G Champion, National Champion)

I'll be interested to see what the film break down guys show. I saw it a little but it's hard on tv.

Mostly going by how many times I saw Sayin double pump/pull it down.

Usually they kill zones. Last night they couldn't. It's a mix of all of it imo, Sayin was exposed a bit but a veteran DC and a very veteran defense did what most teams just can't do so I'm just not all that worried about it. Sayin has shown an ability to learn and he competed last night, his numbers were great.

He, along with the entire team, just got beat by the slimmest of margins at a few critical inflection points in the game. It's the style both coaches play, someone had to win it, someone had to lose it.
i agree that sayin looked uncomfortable. at some point it was clear that Day told him to get the f*ck out of the pocket if it's collapsing. he did better throwing on the run but that takes away a lot of options that he's had all year.

imagine sayin was double-pumping because he got paranoid after the pick he threw, not for some other real reason. he would've done that against tsun as well, but tsun wasn't able to pressure him. so i think sayin needs to work that twitchiness out somehow. thought it would've been worked out during practice, though, against our 1's on the defense.
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B1G CCG: #1 tOSU vs #2 Indiana in Indy, Sat. Dec 6th, 8 ET on FOX

I really really wish people would stop comparing last night to the TCUN 2024 game. It's a VERY lazy take that doesn't come close to the actual reality.

For starters, Indiana this year is far superior to that TCUN team. Ohio State found ways to lose both games, but last night was a lot more about Indiana making plays when it needed to, and 2024 against the cheaters was about Ohio State trying to be something they weren't that year. Also, while the offensive game plan last night was less than optimal, it was NOT beating its head into the wall repeatedly like in 2024. Further, while there were some struggles in the first half, it was VERY clear the offense transformed into something else in the 2nd half, and I attribute a lot of that to Sayin settling down and seeing the game more as his speed. The running game did find some room to operate (remember sacks come out of the rushing totals) and was effective in the 2nd half.

If I wanted to pick an analogue to a previous loss, I'd say it's a lot more like Oregon from 2024 or maybe Sparty from 2013. The struggles on 3rd down really stick with me, a lot of them were short and weren't converted - oddly enough the longest 3rd down they converted was the last play of the game.

Anyway, last night was nothing like TCUN 2024 in basically every aspect except the final score.
Guilty as charged. IU played hard for sure. I just have a feeling Day was holding stuff back like last year, and will turn it up a notch in the playoffs. That is where I am drawing correlations.
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HC Ryan Day (B1G Coach of Year, B1G Champion, National Champion)

I hate everything. That we can't a yard when we need it. It's just baffling to me. I dont have a problem with Day choosing to kick a field goal in theory. But does anyone want Fielding taking big kicks? And that INDIANA beat us fair and square lol
Fielding hadn't missed all year from 20-29 yards. The first 4th down wasn't a "big kick" since it was still early enough to not be a game deciding kick. Less pressure. The O-line wasn't playing great so there was less of a chance to get 1 yard that to get the field goal.
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HC Ryan Day (B1G Coach of Year, B1G Champion, National Champion)

Slow pace of play is great when you’re leading but Day played himself into no margin for error with that 8 minute drive in the 4th.

And then we had the error (missed FG). For how great that 12 minute drive was in The Game, that one also stalled out. Fielding just made that one, and it didn’t have much difference because the Bucks were safely ahead (and in total control).

Credit to IU limiting explosive plays - either with pressure or Sayin not progressing enough to find guys. It seems like there’s still a way to play bend-don’t-break defense against this team until we get into short yardage/field positions and shoot ourselves.

You can't just change who you are even if you think it's a good idea, which I don't think it would be.

Every outcome is based on skill + luck. When you are confident in your superior skill, you want to suppress luck because that's the only thing that can help your opponent.

If I have a big advantage per play, I want fewer plays.

If I have a small advantage per play, I want more plays.
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HC Ryan Day (B1G Coach of Year, B1G Champion, National Champion)

Slow pace of play is great when you’re leading but Day played himself into no margin for error with that 8 minute drive in the 4th.

And then we had the error (missed FG). For how great that 12 minute drive was in The Game, that one also stalled out. Fielding just made that one, and it didn’t have much difference because the Bucks were safely ahead (and in total control).

Credit to IU limiting explosive plays - either with pressure or Sayin not progressing enough to find guys. It seems like there’s still a way to play bend-don’t-break defense against this team until we get into short yardage/field positions and shoot ourselves.
Agree. I understand why you're doing it in the regular season to limit wear and tear etc. But Day said when it's time go they would...and then they didn't. He's obsessed with winning games with running the ball for some reason. If you asked any opponent if they want Ohio State to play fast and have Sayin get the ball out fast and throw the ball every play to Smith and Tate, I doubt they would say yes
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2025 College Football Playoffs Discussion (12 Team Format)

My first blush is they put all three teams that profile as bad match ups for us (IU, Oregon and maybe TT) on the other side of the bracket.

Full stop.

Miami, TAMU, Ole Miss and UGA are all weak in one area or another that doesn't give them a lot of ways to beat OSU this year.
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