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South Florida - USF (Official Thread)

The wisdom of crowds isn’t always wisdom, but when it comes to Tim Beck it is.
Yeah. What's the saying? In this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes and Tim Beck fucking things up. (-B. Franklin)

Man, take that to the Romper Room. There are kids in here!
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South Florida - USF (Official Thread)

Tim Beck was an awful hire and that falls on Hartline. Not sure how or why that’s who he landed on.

I will say Dabo had an incredible run as HC and was VERY limited on X’s and O’s. He spent several years as a WR coach at Clemson and took the job after they finally moved on from Tommy Bowden. Obviously Clemson is in a terrible spot now, but I always viewed Hartline as a CEO style coach that recruits very well. But if you’re a CEO style coach, you need to hit on Coordinators and position group coaches. I like the roster Hartline pulled together but his coaching staff is lacking IMO.
Yeah Dabo had two coordinators for a while that are now head coaches in major D1 football. Then had to move on from them and it’s been a shit show since.

Hartline needs excellent coordinators and he doesn’t have that at least on offense. Going to be playing catch up after this year because of it.
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2026 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, Arrogant Twatwaffles, Emasculated Cucks, Feckless Marmots, Dirty Cheaters "Mid"chigan

Underwhelming had the 2nd lowest QB rating (31) of all the QB's who played on Saturday.

Anyone still refusing to call him a bust is beyond delusional. He looks like the exact same QB as he did on day 1. Your supposed "all world" QB should not still be a 1 read QB with all the same glaring mechanical issues he had the day he stepped on campus in year 2 after a whole year of starting experience.
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South Florida - USF (Official Thread)

Tim Beck was an awful hire and that falls on Hartline. Not sure how or why that’s who he landed on.

I will say Dabo had an incredible run as HC and was VERY limited on X’s and O’s. He spent several years as a WR coach at Clemson and took the job after they finally moved on from Tommy Bowden. Obviously Clemson is in a terrible spot now, but I always viewed Hartline as a CEO style coach that recruits very well. But if you’re a CEO style coach, you need to hit on Coordinators and position group coaches. I like the roster Hartline pulled together but his coaching staff is lacking IMO.
The wisdom of crowds isn’t always wisdom, but when it comes to Tim Beck it is.
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South Florida - USF (Official Thread)

Tim Beck was an awful hire and that falls on Hartline. Not sure how or why that’s who he landed on.

I will say Dabo had an incredible run as HC and was VERY limited on X’s and O’s. He spent several years as a WR coach at Clemson and took the job after they finally moved on from Tommy Bowden. Obviously Clemson is in a terrible spot now, but I always viewed Hartline as a CEO style coach that recruits very well. But if you’re a CEO style coach, you need to hit on Coordinators and position group coaches. I like the roster Hartline pulled together but his coaching staff is lacking IMO.
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2026 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, Arrogant Twatwaffles, Emasculated Cucks, Feckless Marmots, Dirty Cheaters "Mid"chigan

We can sync satellites in space to our phones so well we are comfortable traveling by it in real time.

But, we can't sync clocks in a football stadium.

Got it.
Leaders and the best don’t ya know …
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2026 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, Arrogant Twatwaffles, Emasculated Cucks, Feckless Marmots, Dirty Cheaters "Mid"chigan

It may seem over the top, but that ridiculous situation is going to indirectly impact Ohio State at Texas.

It will be a Big 10 crew.

They’re going to be extremely cautious to not look biased.

What should have been a small (or maybe large?) advantage has turned into a massive disadvantage.

We’d be better off with neutral referees at this point.

The Big 10 has ruined its reputation….and for what??? A very mediocre Michigan team. Just an embarrassing situation all around.

I agree with the sentiment but thinking about it have B1G refs ever actually favored Ohio State anyways?

It is a crime that the B1G sabotaged their own reputation for a team that was probably gonna lose at least 4 games this year anyways. They are lucky scUM hit the 2nd chance imagine how extra embarrassing it would been if they pulled that and Underbust hocked the ball out of the back of the end zone again
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Clemson Tigers (official thread)

I think without NIL and the Portal, Clemson still has a very strong program, imo. Swinney shot his foot off by being unwilling to take in transfers and offer much in NIL. He's basically made himself fight battles with one arm tied behind his back. There was a time where Clemson raided GA, and had NC and SC locked down. When their NIL offer is the least of almost any major program, you see why they're losing players left and right.

I say sanctimonious because Swinney knows what he needs, but refuses to change. He can still target talent in the holes he needs, but he can no longer land those 4 and 5stars. For '25 and '26 alone Clemson has been out recruited by: UNC, Rutgers, Duke, Nebraska, Free Shoes and Wisconsin just to name a few. I don't think a HC who was considered top 3 in the sport at one time, now all of the sudden doesn't know how to build a roster. His refusal to change with the times, because he wants to play like he has a higher morality is the main reason why this decline was so inevitable.
See this is where I differ - I think he believes his strategy is right and isn't able to adapt to what's going on. I think he lacks the imagination to do it - unlike a Ryan Day who adapts on a yearly basis.

I also think this is guy they've struggled so much once Venebles left too. He hasn't been able to adapt to what he has and instead is continually chasing trying to find the next Venebles to run the defense.
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Bryce "L" Underwood (QB2 for ttun, for now)

Well, I wouldn't want to be seen on the wrong side of the ball, but if I were a TCUN fan, I'd be reminding them of how much they have invested in this young man and encouraging them not to give up on him. I mean, he's an emotionally balanced future Heisman winner. Ain't nobody else gonna get them to that next national championship. It's time to double down on Bryce and roll into Columbus with a Michigan Man at QB!
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Clemson Tigers (official thread)

I think it is honestly.

Even the most sanctimonious will bend to reality eventually. I think he lacks the ability to conceptualize what his roster needs until it's far too late to catch up to everyone else.

Let's also remember, Clemson was at all-time high with him. They were eventually going to crash back down to Earth and return to their historical norm.
I think without NIL and the Portal, Clemson still has a very strong program, imo. Swinney shot his foot off by being unwilling to take in transfers and offer much in NIL. He's basically made himself fight battles with one arm tied behind his back. There was a time where Clemson raided GA, and had NC and SC locked down. When their NIL offer is the least of almost any major program, you see why they're losing players left and right.

I say sanctimonious because Swinney knows what he needs, but refuses to change. He can still target talent in the holes he needs, but he can no longer land those 4 and 5stars. For '25 and '26 alone Clemson has been out recruited by: UNC, Rutgers, Duke, Nebraska, Free Shoes and Wisconsin just to name a few. I don't think a HC who was considered top 3 in the sport at one time, now all of the sudden doesn't know how to build a roster. His refusal to change with the times, because he wants to play like he has a higher morality is the main reason why this decline was so inevitable.
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Clemson Tigers (official thread)

I think it is honestly.

Even the most sanctimonious will bend to reality eventually. I think he lacks the ability to conceptualize what his roster needs until it's far too late to catch up to everyone else.

Let's also remember, Clemson was at all-time high with him. They were eventually going to crash back down to Earth and return to their historical norm.

Their historical norm-
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