otisu said:

I don't think he was anyone's first choice. He was more of a shot and a prayer. At the time of his hire, OSU was on the hook for $2M of Holtmann's contract for four more years and if we didn't have the resources to cover that and provide competitive NIL, we weren't going to bring in any of the available big names. People got behind Diebler when he was hired hoping for a good story. I also think most agree that he should be gone after next season if things don't improve. The difference is not everyone chooses to rag on the guy while he's tying to make things better.

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buckeyemania11 said:

I know they aren't firing him now. And yea this season is going to play out.

My main argument is that he shoulda never gotten the job in the first place. Where is Diebler now if we didn't just hand him the job? He's not the head coach at another high major program, that's for sure. Maybe some low major program throws him a flier to be their coach at best or he's back at being an assistant at some other program. It just seems inexplicable that a place like Ohio State essentially made a low major type of move. The last 2 coaching situations here have been grossly flopped.

I guess we see things very differently. I don't think Diebler has grown much as an actual coach from year 1 to 2, I think we still see a lot of the same problems we had under Holtman. We are essentially in a "learn on the job" type situation hoping he maybe totally figures it out and turns the ship around in a couple of years, and if it doesn't the program is in worse shape than it was when he was hired.

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ORD_Buckeye said:

I've long been an advocate of combining the biathalon and ice dancing into one event.

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billmac91 said:

Ehhh…I disagree.

Brooks took the easy path back. He hates the mandatory schedule on LIV which is 14 weeks and all over the world.

I think Brooks is soft and took an easy path out.

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otisu said:

We need to let this season play out. The off-season will tell us a lot about where things stand with Diebler. Who he loses and who he brings in will be a strong indicator of where he stands with his players and what kind of resources he is being given to work with for next year.

Maybe it's because I've lowered my expectations from the Holtmann years, but some positives I see from Diebler:
- We don't see the total 2nd half collapses that we used to see under Holtmann.
- We see set plays coming out of breaks that are actually converted.
- This team handles the press better than what we've seen in the past.
- Good free shooting

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buckeyemania11 said:

You have to take into context that this isn't 25+ years ago where it was a normal thing for coaches to be given 4-5 or even more years. If you give a flailing guy too many years now you are just really hurting your program and setting it back further with each year.

Honestly has Diebler shown ANYTHING as an ACTUAL BASKETBALL COACH to give any real confidence and enthusiasm that he is going to be able to actually put things together and turn the ship around? I see a guy who is clearly in over his head. There's been no noticeable progression with him as a coach between year 1 and year 2.

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