Yahoo, Tattoos, and tOSU (1-year bowl ban, 82 scholly limit for 3 years)

[Mike80]

I believe he lives in Ohio and said something on Twitter yesterday to the effect of "even if my kids get into OSU, I'm not giving that school a cent."

OK then, the school will happily take money from the thousands of others who would kill to be Buckeyes

Any idiot who tweets shit like this:

My hunch. Tressel to Pryor in January: "I hid your violations. You owe me. Come back in 2011." about 2 hours ago via TweetDeck

Isn't worth the hate.

 

[BB73]

There is certainly a good chance of it.

Remember that it was the SEC office that added the 8 game conference suspension to what Tennessee gave Bruce Pearl, and that the NCAA hasn't yet ruled on it. It could be even worse before it's over for Pearl.

And I know y'all don't like to hear it, but it is a very similar situation.

It wasn't so much the original sin, it was the coverup that made it exponentially worse.

So, there is a good chance that not only will the NCAA increase the penalties, but the B10 league office might do so as well - just to keep ahead of the B10/SEC perception of righteousness.

It ain't over, that's for sure.

Pearl committed the original violation, then orchestrated a coverup with his coaches and even tried to influence what the parents of recruits would say to the NCAA.

JT was informed that he had players that had probably committed NCAA violations, and didn't tell anybody. He committed an NCAA violation by not reporting it, and deserves to be penalized, but he wasn't trying to cover up his own cheating and asking others to help him in doing so.

Both situations involve not being forthcoming to the NCAA, but they are significantly different to me.

 

[SEREbuckeye]

There is certainly a good chance of it.

Remember that it was the SEC office that added the 8 game conference suspension to what Tennessee gave Bruce Pearl, and that the NCAA hasn't yet ruled on it. It could be even worse before it's over for Pearl.

And I know y'all don't like to hear it, but it is a very similar situation.

It wasn't so much the original sin, it was the coverup that made it exponentially worse.

So, there is a good chance that not only will the NCAA increase the penalties, but the B10 league office might do so as well - just to keep ahead of the B10/SEC perception of righteousness.

It ain't over, that's for sure.

But as Joe Shad keeps reporting, the difference between AJ Green and Bruce Pearl vs. Jim Tressel is simple: Tressel never lied to the NCAA.

Tressel may have mislead the media and others, but that doesn't mean a thing. He could say he's flying to the moon tomorrow and it doesn't mean jack. Again, as reported, Tressel never lied directly to the NCAA.

 

[matcar]

Pearl committed the original violation, then orchestrated a coverup with his coaches and even tried to influence what the parents of recruits would say to the NCAA.

JT was informed that he had players that had probably committed NCAA violations, and didn't tell anybody. He committed an NCAA violation by not reporting it, and deserves to be penalized, but he wasn't trying to cover up his own cheating and asking others to help him in doing so.

Both situations involve not being forthcoming to the NCAA, but they are significantly different to me.

The only problem I have with this is that it seems like JT actually mislead the NCAA in December rather than simply omitting something.

 

[AKAK]

It wasn't so much the original sin, it was the coverup that made it exponentially worse.

Not a shot at you Smoov, but I've been seeing this quite a bit, and I'm not sure I understand.

Wasn't the cover-up the crime here?

(Unless we're counting the lying about it later as the cover up of the failure to report, which is fine.)

But, as we've been talking about the Pearl situation or whatever, the point of that is they did "A" and then took steps "B & C" to cover it up. Tressel's "crime" was merely sticking to "A"-- which was to do nothing when he was obligated to.

No excuses for sticking to "A" obviously.

 

[Mike80]

Pearl committed the original violation, then orchestrated a coverup with his coaches and even tried to influence what the parents of recruits would say to the NCAA.

JT was informed that he had players that had probably committed NCAA violations, and didn't tell anybody. He committed an NCAA violation by not reporting it, and deserves to be penalized, but he wasn't trying to cover up his own cheating and asking others to help him in doing so.

Both situations involve not being forthcoming to the NCAA, but they are significantly different to me.

Same. Pearl's issues were much more systemic.

 

[OhioState001]

So who takes over the head coach spot for the first two games?

 

[Mike80]

So who takes over the head coach spot for the first two games?

Either Fickell or Bollman.

My guess is Bollman but we'll see.

 

[CentralMOBuck]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=schlabach_mark&id=6195223

Ohio State could have easily terminated Tressel under the terms of his contract.
Instead, OSU's message was clear: Keep beating Michigan and winning Big Ten championships, and we've got your back.
For the record, Michigan's football team hasn't beaten Ohio State in 2,663 days.
But the Wolverines won on Tuesday.
At least they had fired their cheating coach.

I didn't read the article, but skipped to the end and found that gem. I thought Michigan fired dick rod because he sucked? But lets continue to turn a blind eye to all the other programs that don't self report issues like this and sneak bye.

I'm not a espninsider subscriber, but I agree with the first three paragraphs I could read. I think the NCAA and college athletics are getting out of hand.
http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/blog?name=feldman_bruce&id=6196290&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncf%2fblog%3fname%3dfeldman_bruce%26id%3d6196290

 

[OhioState001]

Either Fickell or Bollman.

My guess is Bollman but we'll see.

Oh boy I can see the Bollman haters coming out in full force this year, it could get ugly

 

[SEREbuckeye]

Same. Pearl's issues were much more systemic.

Not the same, do you not understand the biggest fact?

Bruce Pearl - Directly lied to the NCAA

Jim Tressel - Mislead the media in an interview. Did NOT lie to the NCAA.

 

[buckeyesin07]

There is certainly a good chance of it.

Remember that it was the SEC office that added the 8 game conference suspension to what Tennessee gave Bruce Pearl, and that the NCAA hasn't yet ruled on it. It could be even worse before it's over for Pearl.

And I know y'all don't like to hear it, but it is a very similar situation.

It wasn't so much the original sin, it was the coverup that made it exponentially worse.

So, there is a good chance that not only will the NCAA increase the penalties, but the B10 league office might do so as well - just to keep ahead of the B10/SEC perception of righteousness.

It ain't over, that's for sure.

Smoov--serious question: what do you think should come out of this w/r/t punishment? What would you like to see? Just asking, because (and maybe I'm unknowingly reading this into your posts) it seems like there's a certain slant to your posts (e.g., the bolded above, your repeated use of the phrase "another" big problem for OSU, etc.).

 

[Mike80]

Oh boy I can see the Bollman haters coming out in full force this year, it could get ugly

Yep.

In fact, the other night I was reading Hineygate and it was already starting from a couple.

the thing is I think JT has known Bollman for longer and may trust him more to captain the ship.

Fickell will almost certainly have free reign on the defense however.

 

[Mike80]

Not the same, do you not understand the biggest fact?

Bruce Pearl - Directly lied to the NCAA

Jim Tressel - Mislead the media in an interview. Did NOT lie to the NCAA.

Shit I forgot to highlight the part I was agreeing with. EDIT: I highlighted it in my original quotation. That's what I get for doing 7 things at once.

I meant that my feeling are very similar to BB73's....that's what I meant.

I already went through pointing out how JT's issues are different than Pearls about 2 hours ago - it only FELT like 4 hours ago.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Sorry if it's posted, Ray Ratto adds to the media's smug self-righteous indignation:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...te-doesnt-much-give-a-damn-about-your-outrage

While I know that there are media members out there who just don't like Ohio State and I know one major outleat has a vendetta against Ohio State (the whole conference really because of the btn). What we are seeing today is 100% condemnation of JT and Ohio State over the handling of this. Not everyone wakes up with an axe to grind against ohio state.

This is not directed directly at you BL; To dismiss every negative article as the work of a hater is starting to border on baghdad bob territory.