Yahoo, Tattoos, and tOSU (1-year bowl ban, 82 scholly limit for 3 years)

[MaliBuckeye]

Again, we knew this... In the NCAA investigation following the initial revelation, he mentioned that he received a tip, but couldn't remember where it came from.

 

[BUCKYLE]

Well, there goes the so-called "taking one for the team" defense. Two things are now very clear:

1. Tressel didn't tell anybody in April 2010.

2. OSU failed to follow-up on Tressel's December 2010 statment.


Bad news for the Tressel defenders and for the university. Fun times.

Based on first appearance, this is just fucking wonderful.:(

Multiple unamed sources. OK.

 

[CHU]

Again, we knew this... In the NCAA investigation following the initial revelation, he mentioned that he received a tip, but couldn't remember where it came from.

Yeah, I know. I'm sure (at least hope) the NCAA knows about all of this as well (and probably knew a few months ago).

Somehow the handling of this entire situation reminds me of the 2001 Outback Bowl where I went to the restroom after the game. A Gamecocks fan said to me, "Well, you lost the game, but you'll get a new coach."

I somehow get that feeling with Gene Smith.

ESPN/CBS/NBC Sports will be making a bigger deal of this than it is in about 15 minutes.

 

[BB73]

This is recycled stuff, relax folks. From the response to the NOA.

Also, on December 16, 2010, the six student-athletes whose eligibility was affected
were interviewed by institutional representatives. Shortly after the conclusion of the
last student-athlete interview, Director of Athletics Gene Smith and Tressel met
briefly with those institutional officials who had conducted the interviews to ask
about the status of the information and its implications on the anticipated eligibility
restoration requests. During that conversation, University officials asked Tressel
about his knowledge of the information. More specifically, Senior Associate General
Counsel for Athletics Julie Vannatta asked Tressel if he had been contacted by
anyone about this matter or if he knew anything about it. Tressel replied that while
he had received a tip about general rumors pertaining to certain players, such
information was not specific and pertained to the players? off-field choices. The
University interpreted his responses to mean that the tip related to the social
decisions/choices being made by certain student-athletes. Tressel also mentioned
during this December conversation that he did not recall from whom he received the
tip and that he did not know that any items had been seized.
Nevertheless, the
conversation represented another opportunity when Tressel could have informed the
institution of his previous e-mails with Cicero.

So how can The Dispatch now say:

Former Ohio State football coach Jim Tressel told investigators that he first notified the university's top compliance staff he had a "tip" about issues related to the team's tattoo scandal in December 2010, nearly a month earlier than the university claimed.

 

[GomerBucks]

eh, this seems to be a regurgitation of bs that has been chewed on over and over again for what seems to be a lifetime now. If I remember correctly, 10tv is the channel that was practically un-watchable unless they were currently broadcasting a live game. I used to refer to 10 news as the ghetto news when I lived in Columbus.

 

[OH10]

Again, we knew this... In the NCAA investigation following the initial revelation, he mentioned that he received a tip, but couldn't remember where it came from.

How, on one hand is the university denying that Tressel made the statement, and on the other hand the NCAA already knows about it?

Seems fishy to me.

EDIT: Seeing BB73's post, I think I will step back from the ledge now. Thanks and fuck you 10TV!

 

[CHU]

This is recycled stuff, relax folks. From the NOA, which is from back in March:

But Paul Aker says it's new information :tongue2:

Is that the guy who knocked on Tressel's door the day he resigned (or was it ABC 6)?

I still wish I knew if it was legal for someone to answer a door brandishing a shotgun.

 

[Jaxbuck]

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[Tlangs]

of course there was a tip in december that this was going on. Otherwise we wouldn't have self reported and suspend guys....hello mcfly.


This is news IF the source says JT tipped compliance in APRIL 2010and nothing happened until December.

 

[JBaney45]

Let me sum up how this happened in real life

April 2010: Tressel receives tip about players selling [Mark May]..sits on it. When all these other schools are out buying players he wasn't going to go nuke his season (and possibly past seasons) over stupid trivial [Mark May]..NO coach would. He probably went and had a word with some players and that was the end of it.


Fast forward to December 2010: After already being selected to play in the Sugar Bowl it comes out that the players received [Mark May]. Tressel comes clean about the tip and I believe Ohio State's officials would have been fine going right to the NCAA with that..but it isn't in the universities, the big ten's, the ncaa's or the tv networks interest to nuke this game. So they concoct a plan to go with the story that no one knew about the violations and then they'd just hold off on the Tressel revelation until the game was played and the money was paid. Was someone really dense enough to believe that they just happened to be "investigating an unrelated legal matter" when they came across the Tressel emails? Tressel is still going to take the fall here, he played ineligible guys and thus openly broke NCAA rules so his ass is toast regardless. The NCAA lets tOSU avoid a LOIC or failure to monitor for their cooperation. Tressel gets fired but saves a few bridges by going along with this, they may have hoped they could get away with keeping him but the outside pressure was so much that they eventually had to let him fall in the sword

 

[Gatorubet]

Let me sum up how this happened in real life

You'd better pray that nobody can prove the scenario you just posited, or the NCAA will go all Curtis LeMay on your ass. Your version requires a faked "surprise" find of e-mails a month later to make it all work out, and Tress willingly taking the bullet without compensation for his part in this grand cabal. That is a bit too :tinfoil: for me to accept.

 

[bassbuckeye07]

Ten TV's last report about a 600 dollar car repair gat crushed by legit journalists............they keep putting out poop

 

[bassbuckeye07]

You'd better pray that nobody can prove the scenario you just posited, or the NCAA will go all Curtis LeMay on your ass. Your version requires a faked "surprise" find of e-mails a month later to make it all work out, and Tress willingly taking the bullet without compensation for his part in this grand cabal. That is a bit too :tinfoil: for me to accept.

I think he is saying the NCAA was in on it....just some colorful conversation...not to speak for j

 

[JBaney45]

I think he is saying the NCAA was in on it....just some colorful conversation...not to speak for j

^^ This

I mean it seemed that they really acted pretty inconsistently to allow the guys to play when they took extra benefits if there wasn't large outside pressures involved. So I'm not unwilling to take the extra step in concluding that they may have been bending even more then we originally thought. Think of how soft they were on Cam Newton..it seems pretty clear that the NCAA IS bending to outside forces at times.

If it was just Ohio State compliance/Gene Smith hiding the fact that Tressel told them..it doesn't make sense they'd then go unveil the emails a month later..they would have tried to keep it covered up as long as possible.


It's either that or Tressel was just lying (some more) to save his own skin and the NCAA didn't believe him. I mean Tressel made these statements to the NCAA back in Feb so this isn't anything that is new to them and we've already seen what that they didn't put LOIC or Failure to monitor in the notice of allegations

 

[Gatorubet]

I think he is saying the NCAA was in on it....just some colorful conversation...not to speak for j

Hey - huge pressure for the game to played full strength by everyone from our Sugar Bowl folks to your B10 Commish to the network....especially the network.

I just don't see it with the NCAA with a hand in it, as the two departments (eligibility who was involved, and infractions who was not) would not have been involved at that point.