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sharkonwheels;1928551; said:Seriously...NCAA can <expletive> me.
Say...
Ain't ya'll got woodshds up in Columbus?
I know two cats that need a serious beating behind one...
COUGH*Small*Cough*Cough*Jenkins*Cough*
What's with former players constantly ratting on the bucks? Clarrett, now these two clowns...
Ain't they got any damn self-respect? Guess the way Small was always, um, let's say "not playing" explains all that, anyways...
Seriously... ya'll need like a vigilante "RatBuster Squad" out there...
If they rat, introduce them to Mr Slugger... Mr. Louisville Slugger...
See, here's the deal. The fact a player says he got a deal like nobody else could get, doesn't mean he got a deal like nobody else could've got.Deety;1928466; said:... looks like there still isn't any real evidence of improper car deals, at least not yet.
fourteenandoh;1928468; said:Wow, I hate to hijack a thread, but you are out of your mind. Great love of the game of baseball, Bears, Bulls, fishing, golf etc. You are crazy.
ORD_Buckeye;1928158; said:Back to my original point, it's more like this.
Having only a tiny portion of your populace put the 23+ year old football players in your town up on any kind of pedestal = Cosmopolitan.
Having a large portion of your populace put the 18 to 22 year old football players in your town on a pedestal while having the local media obsess about their program 24/7/365 = quite hickish.
Although, I must add that having the Dispatch (and other local media outlets) being bashed for not being appropriately all-in for JT and the program is refreshingly non-hickish of Columbus. Perhaps the city is getting all growsed up.
MaxBuck;1928569; said:See, here's the deal. The fact a player says he got a deal like nobody else could get, doesn't mean he got a deal like nobody else could've got.
"(People say) ?Oh you got a deal, it's because you're an athlete,'" Small said. "Playing for Ohio State definitely helps. But I know a lot of people that do nothing and get deals on their cars."
sharkonwheels;1928551; said:Seriously...NCAA can <expletive> me.
Say...
Ain't ya'll got woodshds up in Columbus?
I know two cats that need a serious beating behind one...
COUGH*Small*Cough*Cough*Jenkins*Cough*
What's with former players constantly ratting on the bucks? Clarrett, now these two clowns...
Ain't they got any damn self-respect? Guess the way Small was always, um, let's say "not playing" explains all that, anyways...
Seriously... ya'll need like a vigilante "RatBuster Squad" out there...
If they rat, introduce them to Mr Slugger... Mr. Louisville Slugger...
Bob Hunter commentary: Fawning fans share blame for the mess at Ohio State
Of all of the things former Ohio State receiver Ray Small told The Lantern on Wednesday, his closing comment was the most provocative.
"Everywhere you go while you're in the process of playing at Ohio State, you're going to get a deal every which way," he said.
If you're surprised by that, you're either hopelessly nave or you just got off the bus from Rabbit Hash. Ohio State football players have been treated like royalty for years.
That probably explains why, upon reading The Lantern story by Zach Meisel and James Oldham, I recalled what Pogo comic-strip creator Walt Kelly wrote for an Earth Day poster in 1970: "We have met the enemy and he is us."
Many fans will instantly reject this position; that may even explain why we get so many emails saying how unfair the NCAA rules are and arguing that what the six previously suspended players did is no big deal. But it is also worth a few seconds of introspection because in some ways this perfectly describes Ohio State's situation.
Football players are idolized in this community. A lot of us will do just about anything to get close to them, and if that involves a favor, so be it. Maybe that means giving them a free Coke or free burrito - it's no big deal, right? - or maybe it means giving them a sweet deal on a T-shirt, a pair of jogging shoes or a used car.
Having Ohio State football players seen in your barber shop, restaurant, store, car dealership and yes, even your tattoo parlor, is good for business. If a familiar player or two are seen there, the fans who idolize them will want to be there, too. And even if the players don't become regular "customers," telling your friends that you were talking to the star quarterback or linebacker inflates you in the eyes of others. These guys are local celebrities. If you "know" a player, you can get a lot of mileage with your friends, your love interests and even the guy sitting across from you in the boardroom.
That doesn't mean this mess is all the fans' fault. Players obviously are told not to take free stuff and discounts that are not available to the average person, so they know they are breaking the rules.
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BB73;1928680; said:Bob Hunter talks about fans being part of the problem. Without calling them hicks.
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BB73;1928680; said:Bob Hunter talks about fans being part of the problem. Without calling them hicks.
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Roundabout;1928697; said:I think this really gets to the heart of the problem, I think very few if any of college kids go demanding perks.... but they sure as hell arn't going to turn them down.
Don't think the problems will ever go away while fans are throwing perks at the players... It happens probably at all schools, but whats going to bite the school in the butt is the way it looks as the the coach didn't care/ helped with it. He walks this down the hall in April and this never even gets started.