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I was too lazy to read the whole thread, so hopefully this wasn't covered. Am I correct that the 2015 class will be the first without the scholarship limitations? If so, how does that change the dynamic of the team's approach to recruiting?
 
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BuckBackHome said:
I was too lazy to read the whole thread, so hopefully this wasn't covered. Am I correct that the 2015 class will be the first without the scholarship limitations? If so, how does that change the dynamic of the team's approach to recruiting?
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Correct. The coaches will be playing with a full deck, so to speak. I still expect this year's class to only number around 22-23.
 
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wadc45 said:
Correct. The coaches will be playing with a full deck, so to speak. I still expect this year's class to only number around 22-23.
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Only? Only 4 of Tressel's 11 recruiting classes had 22 or more players (the other 7 were between 15-20 players... and 3 of those times he had 15). If Urban has that many scholarships available next year, he'll be 4 of 4 of 22 or more. To me, 22-23 scholarships next year is fantastic.

'02 -- 24
'04 -- 26
'09 -- 25
'11 -- 23
 
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BuckTwenty said:
Only? Only 4 of Tressel's 11 recruiting classes had 22 or more players (the other 7 were between 15-20 players... and 3 of those times he had 15). If Urban has that many scholarships available next year, he'll be 4 of 4 of 22 or more. To me, 22-23 scholarships next year is fantastic.

'02 -- 24
'04 -- 26
'09 -- 25
'11 -- 23
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Probably because JT took more in-state projects...kids who even if they were recruited over would stay on the team. There was less attrition under JT. There are very few projects in Meyer's classes and he will absolutely recruit over someone and send them packing if they aren't cutting it. He can afford to take an extra couple each year because of this, IMO. Just a different philosophy.
 
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BuckTwenty said:
Only? Only 4 of Tressel's 11 recruiting classes had 22 or more players (the other 7 were between 15-20 players... and 3 of those times he had 15). If Urban has that many scholarships available next year, he'll be 4 of 4 of 22 or more. To me, 22-23 scholarships next year is fantastic.
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Yep. Folks need to keep in mind that, in a perfect world of no early-exits and no season-ending injuries, you can only sign an average of 21 players per year over a four-year span to fill the 85 available slots (well, one of those four years you can sign 22). Granted, inuries happen and getting top-notch recruits will lead to early exists for the NFL, but no one should be expecting us to sign 25+ recruits each class...
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
Yep. Folks need to keep in mind that, in a perfect world of no early-exits and no season-ending injuries, you can only sign an average of 21 players per year over a four-year span to fill the 85 available slots (well, one of those four years you can sign 22). Granted, inuries happen and getting top-notch recruits will lead to early exists for the NFL, but no one should be expecting us to sign 25+ recruits each class...
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Nick Saban disagrees
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
Yep. Folks need to keep in mind that, in a perfect world of no early-exits and no season-ending injuries, you can only sign an average of 21 players per year over a four-year span to fill the 85 available slots (well, one of those four years you can sign 22). Granted, inuries happen and getting top-notch recruits will lead to early exists for the NFL, but no one should be expecting us to sign 25+ recruits each class...
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exhawg said:
Nick Saban disagrees
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Until the NCAA gets off its lazy ass and does something about oversigning, we're playing by a different set of rules than Saban and the SEC
 
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stowfan said:
How does the 2015 instate talent look?
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http://ohiostate.247sports.com/Season/2015-Football/Offers

There's some really good talent in Ohio this year. It seems the staff has given out more instate offers than woth urban in last classes. Between Jerome baker, justin hilliard, Eric Glover Williams, Shaun Crawford, Nick Conner, LJ Scott, the Dowell twins, cj conrad, etc, ohio has a heck of a class for 2015. Half of the names mentioned have offers already. I expect even more pillaging of guys urban decides against by schools like UK and Tennessee as the other Big 10 coaches rather pick their noses than recruit. Its a pretty deep and talented in state class.
 
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Krenzelicious said:
An interesting way of looking at player rankings (ranking players based upon offers, not opinions):

Rank By Offers

* Note that J. Jones, Knox, and Taylor are our three mostly highly ranked 2014 players using this system. Raekwon is fourth.
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This method is very flawed. It assumes we know every offer. It also assumes that every school offers everyone they want instead of week they think they have a chance with. Also the difference between "commitable" and not is huge, but there's no distinction here. It's a great idea, but impossible to draw any conclusions from.
 
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Krenzelicious said:
An interesting way of looking at player rankings (ranking players based upon offers, not opinions):

Rank By Offers

* Note that J. Jones, Knox, and Taylor are our three mostly highly ranked 2014 players using this system. Raekwon is fourth.
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The default probelm with ranking kids by the number of offers is that many of the truly elite prospects won't get offers from podunk schools who know an offer is just a waste of time. The kid with the most offers (51) is Deion Hallmon, who is a 3-star CB, ranked #133 at that position by Scout, whereas Raekwon McMillan is a 5-star LB (and the top LB in the entire country) and has less than half the number of offers (23).
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
The default probelm with ranking kids by the number of offers is that many of the truly elite prospects won't get offers from podunk schools who know an offer is just a waste of time. The kid with the most offers (51) is Deion Hallmon, who is a 3-star CB, ranked #133 at that position by Scout, whereas Raekwon McMillan is a 5-star LB (and the top LB in the entire country) and has less than half the number of offers (23).
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Thereis also the issue of kids who commit early in the pprocess thereby stunting teir ofer list.
Sam Hubbard, Berger etc.
As mentioned before the advent of non-commitable offers queers the analysis, as does the fact kids can just make up offers as the school can't chimein.
 
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