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Game Thread tOSU at Nebraska, Sat October 8, 2011, 8 pm ET, ABC

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A friend posted this on his facebook (not an Ohio State fan):

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From the East Balcony:

-Hall and Hyde played phenomenal. The Oline run blocked well, but had its moments of inconsistency.

-This shouldn't shock anyone, but we don't scare anyone in the air. Stoney was covered by a safety with no help constantly. Also, I'm not sure Bollman understands the concept of intermediate and short routes. All routes were 12-15+ yards time after time.

-I think our defense played well overall. The option is dangerous and was going to come out at some point. Unfortunately, it all happened in one wave - on the road, it spelled disaster. Which brings me to the most obvious thing.

-Big Hank and Simon were once again monsters.

-Youth, youth, youth, youth youth, youth. We are a very young team, from the staff as far as HC experience to the number of frosh playing on both sides of the ball. As down as we are about the results so far this year, had we not had the ball literally taken out of a frosh offensive player's hands in both of the past two weeks, we are possibly at 2-0 in the B1G and a top 15 team right now (not that I think we should be there, but realistically where a 5-1 team would be ranked now) The shell shock factor was very obvious. These kids will grow up, fingers are crossed that it happens this season. And I for one look forward to a full off-season of strengthening those bis and forearms of our skill players. I think youth played a big part of that last drive where we couldn't stop the ball.


-Joe just doesn't have the skill-set to be our #1 or #2. After two series the entire stadium saw this. I'm glad he's a Buckeye and he didn't lose this game for us by himself, but if our other two QBs aren't an improvement, then we are going to be bowl eligible without a healthy Brax.

-Nebraska fans were nothing but 100% class from the time we pulled into Lincoln until we left. Fan base was everything advertised and more. Welcome to the B1G.
 
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Just got back from the long 7 hour drive home. We called it the trail of tears. If I had posted last night, I would have been banned. Its amazing what a bucket of beer and a good night's sleep will do for one's perspective. :biggrin:

As for the experience, it was great. Props to the Nebraska fan base for being the most welcoming and frendly fans I have ever encountered. This was true before, during and after the game. The Nebraska stadium is a shrine, it has the same feeling as our own, a feeling of history and legends and "if these walls could talk". The Nebraska fans sitting around us (Row 88 in Section 41) have the same kind of self depreciating humor that we buckeye fans have. They were extremely puzzled when the entire section sang "we don't give a damn for the whole state of meatchicken".

On the plus side, I think Braxton Miller came of age last night. Too bad he didn't get the result he deserved. I had the feeling that the defense's conditioning broke down in the fourth quarter. Plus, we did not have the speed to keep up with their little running back. I hope that Guiton gets a shot to play next week. We have nothing to lose at this point, and I seriously can't watch another game with Joe under center.

I would make that trip again in a heartbeat. It may be awhile, so we will need to exact out revenge on the basketball court.

Go Bucks. :osu: :oh:

Edit: Runzas has given me serious gas. :wink2:
 
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knapplc;2010219; said:
I'm waiting for an hour or so to turn it on.
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Hey guys, been at church and hanging with the fam most of the day, but I decided to come in this evening to see how everybody was doing and was going to ask if anybody posting went to the game.

Glad to see that knapplc hosted some of you guys with typical Nebraska hospitality. :biggrin:

I know the loss is a hard pill to swallow. Trust me when I say that most of us know exactly how you feel. The same thing happened to us last year in the Big 12 championship game. We watched a 17 point lead vanish into thin air as Bo went 0-2 in conference championship games for the 2nd straight year.

I used to coach little league football (seven years till the babies were born). We had some good teams, and some not so good teams. When times were tough for us, you always have to look at the positives in a loss. Here's the positives I see for you guys that should encourage you:

1. Braxton Miller is an unbelieveable talent that will only flourish under the right conditions. He was dealing us fits, guys. The defense was having problems stopping your offense up until he got hurt. From the posts I've seen on here, many are questioning his will to absorb punishment. He'll grow from that, trust me.

2. Your defense is unbelieveable. Other than a couple of missed tackles here and there, I can see your defense being one of the best in the country in future seasons.

3. The offensive line play was outstanding. When they had Miller in there, they blocked like crazy. The O line was dominating our defensive line and we couldn't get off the blocks to make plays. A good running game is the staple of most championship teams, and you guys still have a pretty good pair of backs back there.

4. Running back play was awesome. Hyde is special. Isn't he just a sophomore? He kinda reminded me of a younger Beanie Wells. He looked hard to tackle and one guy couldn't bring him down cleanly. A good running game is the best friend of a young signal caller.

All in all, we got away with one, for real. Nothing to hang your heads at on this one, guys. Sometimes, the football 'gods' smile on another team some days. But it's nothing to throw the towel in on.
 
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Thoughts on yesterday's matchup:

Pregame in Lincoln: Amazing experience, thanks BB73, Knapple, and others

Game reflection:
So what happened? Some people will point to the defensive side of the ball, saying that the players lost focus or weren?t prepared by their coaches well enough. Others will say that the gameplan didn?t have a Plan B(auserman), and was unwise to go away from the running game given the level of success that had been seen throughout the night. Still others hold that the unwillingness to go for the field goal showed a coaching lapse, and that all three of these components indicate that a change is necessary in the Ohio State Football leadership pantheon.

I believe that any or all of these things may be true, but want to point to another possibility. This team may not have been able to draw on the well of resilience because that well is dry. A young team, with young leadership (at least at the head coaching position), that has been asked week after week after week after week to deal with adversity? it?s perfectly logical that at some juncture they?d reach their breaking point and would not be able to respond as needed.

Personal note- I lost four games from the beginning of my football career (7th grade) to my graduation from highschool, and proceeded to play for a team that went 0-10 during my freshman year of college. I had to learn quickly how to respond to adversity, and I can tell you from experience that this was much easier said than done.

Even when you get an edge, even when you?re up on the scoreboard, all it takes is one thing to trigger the ?well, here we go again? mentality. A long pass called back for holding. A sure pick six dropped. A missed assignment on third down leading to the chains being moved against you? Sometimes, when you go to your deepest place, you don?t find what you need.

Again, this is just my attempt at armchair psychology, and I want to be clear about a couple of things. I?m not suggesting that this team experienced ?learned helplessness? on Saturday in the face of the futility that the off the field issues have created. I?m also not suggesting that the team is defeated and has given up- to the contrary, there?s a lot of fight in the veterans and a lot of fire in the young members of the squad.

All I?m wondering is if, just maybe, the comeback in Lincoln was due in part to the entire program being worn down not by Cornhuskers, but by everything that has been building and building and building.

The danger in this possibility is that ?us against the world? can very quickly turn into ?us against each other? if the patience and resilience necessary for success aren?t present. That the worst thing that can happen might not be NCAA sanctions, but instead doubts about teammates and other coaches. You don?t need scholarship reductions if you?re dealing with transfers and discord in house. That?s when programs start a collapse that can take years to dig out of?

I?ll leave Lincoln with my comments from when I arrived- when told that Nebraska was going to beat the Buckeyes, my response was ?No, they?re not? If OSU loses, it?s because they?ve beaten themselves.?

What remains to be seen, over the next six games, is if Ohio State has the resilience and attitude necessary to emerge victorious this season- if not on the scoreboards, in their character.

Because, as I?m sure they know, every day is a great day to be a Buckeye.
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MaliBuckeye;2010230; said:
Thoughts on yesterday's matchup:

Pregame in Lincoln: Amazing experience, thanks BB73, Knapple, and others

Game reflection:
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Damn good post. I will say that you guys have earned a fan in this Husker. I'll root for you guys all the time (cept the obvious :biggrin:).

I was reading around for word on Miller's injury, then I ran across this article:

http://www.the-ozone.net/football/2011/Nebraska/postgame/guiton.html

Buckeyes Almost Turned to Guiton, Still May
By Brandon Castel

LINCOLN, Neb. -- With four minutes left in Ohio State's game at Nebraska Saturday night, Kenny Guiton finally removed his headset.

After spending nearly all of the first six games as a token clipboard holder behind Braxton Miller and Joe Bauserman, Guiton began warming up on the sideline with receiver Philly Brown as the Buckeyes tried desperately to get one last stop on defense.

They had already blown a 21-point lead in the second half and the defense was gassed. The Buckeyes had gotten nothing out of Bauserman since he took over for Braxton Miller after he was helped off the field with an ankle injury, and they were desperate for any kind of a spark that might swing even the slightest bit of momentum back in their favor.

"We were thinking about that. It all depended on how much time was on the clock and what the situation was going to be," Ohio State Offensive Coordinator Jim Bollman said of putting Guiton in the game.

"Had we stopped them and got it back with about three minutes, he might have had a chance to do something with his feet. We were talking about it."

That was the problem. There was too much talk and not enough action.
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I read this and bout went apeshiat. Stuff like this pisses me off.

I mean, Fickell I can understand - he's a rookie head coach. STILL, the head coach, yes, but he's still a rookie.

From the posts I've read, Bollman has been around for a while, right?
 
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alexhortdog95;2010232; said:
I read this and bout went apeshiat. Stuff like this pisses me off.
I mean, Fickell I can understand - he's a rookie head coach. STILL, the head coach, yes, but he's still a rookie.
From the posts I've read, Bollman has been around for a while, right?
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There is an old story about a bus driver messing up and making Woody and the team late to the stadium on a road trip. Everyone thought Woody would go ballistic on the guy but he said he didn't blame an incompetent for being incompetent, he blamed the guy who hired him.

I don't blame Jim Bollman. He's the same guy he's been for the past 10 years. That's like entering Rita Rodriguez in a beauty contest and being pissed off she didn't win it for you.

I blame Jim Tressel for keeping Bollman around all these years. I blame Gene Smith for (allegedly) forcing Fickell to keep Bollman. I blame Fickell for not mitigating the damage by telling Bollman to go sit in the corner while someone capable ran the offense and instead handing the offense over for the incompetent to run carte blanche.

While Bollmans ineptitude is breathtaking, the fact he's in a position to still do damage after all these years is the bigger issue.
 
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Buckeyes Almost Turned to Guiton, Still May
By Brandon Castel

LINCOLN, Neb. ? With four minutes left in Ohio State?s game at Nebraska Saturday night, Kenny Guiton finally removed his headset.

After spending nearly all of the first six games as a token clipboard holder behind Braxton Miller and Joe Bauserman, Guiton began warming up on the sideline with receiver Philly Brown as the Buckeyes tried desperately to get one last stop on defense.

They had already blown a 21-point lead in the second half and the defense was gassed. The Buckeyes had gotten nothing out of Bauserman since he took over for Braxton Miller after he was helped off the field with an ankle injury, and they were desperate for any kind of a spark that might swing even the slightest bit of momentum back in their favor.

?We were thinking about that. It all depended on how much time was on the clock and what the situation was going to be,? Ohio State Offensive Coordinator Jim Bollman said of putting Guiton in the game.

?Had we stopped them and got it back with about three minutes, he might have had a chance to do something with his feet. We were talking about it.?

That was the problem. There was too much talk and not enough action.


Like I said last night, "Men of Action" my ass...
 
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Oh8ch;2010259; said:
Exactly. Bollman sounds like a "status quo" guy. Unwilling to make a change unless forced. Reflected in his play calling, personnel decisions and practice habits.
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Comes from the Woody Hayes school of "The guy that's there is there, the guy behind him doesn't move ahead of him." Not so good right now.
 
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