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TooTallMenardo said:
That’s the issue. UGA wasn’t punished at all for losing by 20 to LSU. They dropped from 2 to 8.
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You beat *ichigan like Craig James beats hookers, and scUM dropped 3 spots. You beat Northwestern handily and that was a drop of one. Why is the Georgia example a sign of the rigged SEC, and the latter two examples seen as sound and prudent ranking? A night Game at Death Valley is considered one of the toughest venues in college football. I once suffered temporary hearing loss after a night game there. And at the time the loss was Georgia's first of the year after almost winning the whole enchilada the year before.

Georgia dropping 6 after its loss to LSU is far worse than scUM dropping 3 after its loss to tOSU why again? Not saying that the SEC does not get favorable treatment, but I am saying that you guys often seem to turn a blind eye to facts applied to other conference (including your own) - yet cite similar SEC treatment as proof of the BP SEC conspiracy theory du joure.
 
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Gatorubet said:
You beat *ichigan like Craig James beats hookers, and scUM dropped 3 spots. You beat Northwestern handily and that was a drop of one. Why is the Georgia example a sign of the rigged SEC, and the latter two examples seen as sound and prudent ranking? A night Game at Death Valley is considered one of the toughest venues in college football. I once suffered temporary hearing loss after a night game there. And at the time the loss was Georgia's first of the year after almost winning the whole enchilada the year before.

Georgia dropping 6 after its loss to LSU is far worse than scUM dropping 3 after its loss to tOSU why again? Not saying that the SEC does not get favorable treatment, but I am saying that you guys often seem to turn a blind eye to facts applied to other conference (including your own) - yet cite similar SEC treatment as proof of the BP SEC conspiracy theory du joure.
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Go back through this thread, its detailed multiple times where SEC teams dont drop as far from losing an jump more from winning. Hell, NW dropped 2 spots before playing us even in a win.
 
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Gatorubet said:
You beat *ichigan like Craig James beats hookers, and scUM dropped 3 spots. You beat Northwestern handily and that was a drop of one. Why is the Georgia example a sign of the rigged SEC, and the latter two examples seen as sound and prudent ranking? A night Game at Death Valley is considered one of the toughest venues in college football. I once suffered temporary hearing loss after a night game there. And at the time the loss was Georgia's first of the year after almost winning the whole enchilada the year before.

Georgia dropping 6 after its loss to LSU is far worse than scUM dropping 3 after its loss to tOSU why again? Not saying that the SEC does not get favorable treatment, but I am saying that you guys often seem to turn a blind eye to facts applied to other conference (including your own) - yet cite similar SEC treatment as proof of the BP SEC conspiracy theory du joure.
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That was just the most blatant example. No worries, I’ll dig deeper.

Kentucky handled by Georgia (but made to look like a respectable loss), drops 2 spots.

LSU gives up seventy fucking four points to A&M in a loss, drops 3 spots

Beloved Florida escapes garbage Vandy by 10, gains 2 spots

Beloved Florida gets smoked by garbage Mizzou, drops only 4 spots

Beloved Florida comes back a week later and scrapes by garbage South Carolina by 4, and still gains 2 spots

Any other team in the country struggles against trash opponents, and they’re punished and drop spots. Untouchable SEC struggles against trash opponents and gain spots left and right. I could go on with plenty more examples, but it isn’t necessary. If you can’t see that the SEC is held to a different standard because the only thing they do is pillow fight with each other, then I don’t know what to tell you. Maybe consistently schedule some decent non conference games, so the country can gauge the vaunted conferences superiority before they fistfuck Citadel in the middle of November, and maybe my tone will change.. Until then, continue riding Alabama’s dong and getting free pass after free pass.
 
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Gatorubet said:
You beat *ichigan like Craig James beats hookers, and scUM dropped 3 spots. You beat Northwestern handily and that was a drop of one. Why is the Georgia example a sign of the rigged SEC, and the latter two examples seen as sound and prudent ranking? A night Game at Death Valley is considered one of the toughest venues in college football. I once suffered temporary hearing loss after a night game there. And at the time the loss was Georgia's first of the year after almost winning the whole enchilada the year before.

Georgia dropping 6 after its loss to LSU is far worse than scUM dropping 3 after its loss to tOSU why again? Not saying that the SEC does not get favorable treatment, but I am saying that you guys often seem to turn a blind eye to facts applied to other conference (including your own) - yet cite similar SEC treatment as proof of the BP SEC conspiracy theory du joure.
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I don't know--I'm not sure I see any valid argument for ranking Georgia ahead of OSU. OSU was a conference champ to Georgia not being a conference champ, OSU had one loss (albeit an awful one) to Georgia's two losses, and OSU has a better slate of wins than Georgia (vs. #7 Michigan, @ #12 PSU and neutral-site against #22 Northwestern > vs. #9 Florida, @ #14 UK, vs. #23 Missou).
 
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buckeyesin07 said:
I don't know--I'm not sure I see any valid argument for ranking Georgia ahead of OSU. OSU was a conference champ to Georgia not being a conference champ, OSU had one loss (albeit an awful one) to Georgia's two losses, and OSU has a better slate of wins than Georgia (vs. #7 Michigan, @ #12 PSU and neutral-site against #22 Northwestern > vs. #9 Florida, @ #14 UK, vs. #23 Missou).
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And *gasp* dare I say Ohio State actually showed up against ranked opponents?! 3-0 against top 25, 2-0 against top 12 vs Georgia 3-2 against top 25 (since apparently Mizzou is a top 25 team :rofl:), 1-2 against top 12.
 
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TooTallMenardo said:
That was just the most blatant example. No worries, I’ll dig deeper.

Any other team in the country struggles against trash opponents, and they’re punished and drop spots. Untouchable SEC struggles against trash opponents and gain spots left and right.
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And yet you ignore the two examples I posted. Georgia was dropped worse than TSUN. You need to post where other conferences with similar losses (similar ranked teams losing to similar teams) to make any of your comparisons valid. If ACC or Big-12 or B1G teams receive different treatment, then there must be some stat freak keeping a spread-sheet. Your cites only have relevancy if similar losses by other non-SEC conference teams result in non-similar drops. Hell, I can't find that info either. Not really opposing you so much as saying that I'd love to see something more scientific than your gut.

The problem is the SEC rep for good ball. So a loss to an in-conference foe is seen as a loss to a good team. THAT is the core of the ranking problem. You cure that by maybe having someone other than tOSU win the thing since today's players were born. You want conference respect in rankings (a loss to an SEC team not be worth less than a loss to a B1G team) - but claim that lack of conference success at the highest level has no role in perception. How you all convince yourself of that is quite puzzling to me.
 
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BuckeyeSoldier said:
Go back through this thread, its detailed multiple times where SEC teams dont drop as far from losing an jump more from winning. Hell, NW dropped 2 spots before playing us even in a win.
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ain't nobody got time gif.

I hear you. But with all due respect, it's hard to believe that somebody did not do some kind of analysis on this yet. There might be a teeny-tiny chance of anti-SEC bias here, so an actual study would be cool.
 
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edwgrm said:
GA above OSU is a joke. The committee's rationale continues to bob around from year to year. In 2015 an OSU with one of the greatest collections of talent in CFB history, held back by a terrible offensive coordinator, but still only 1 close lose to a playoff team, misses out. But of course Alabama gets in last year without winning its conference.
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Like Ohio State did two years ago. I don't recall anyone being outraged by the "rationale" for that decision, probably because it worked to our benefit.

(I agree Georgia being above OSU this year is a joke.)
 
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Onebuckfan said:
The playoffs in 2014 were 4 places.now it’s diwn to with Clemson and Alabama having automatic bids.
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Baka will always get the benefit of the doubt because they’re the current kings of CFb. Clemson takes care of business during the season and rarely loses in conference, if OSU did the same then they would have a spot guaranteed every year. Clemson doesn’t consistently lose to teams like NC State and a Duke though like OSU does, not sure why OSU fans don’t get this. The SEC will ALWAYS get the benefit of the doubt, like it or not. So every other conference needs to go undefeated to make the CFP. It’s not rocket science
 
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One might check the eye test.

tOSU ALMOST lost to unranked MD..... SHOULD have lost to MD with a decent 2pt throw.

tOSU was WAY DOWN with 8min left to top 20 Ped State. A near miracle allowed us to pull it out.

tOSU almost let an unranked Nebraska take them in the 4th quarter.

tOSU got abused by nobody Purdue.

GA squeaked by playoff bound ND..... easily could have lost.

GA got abused by top 20 LSU, similar to ito loss to Purdue...... but not Purdue.

GA took overrated but ranked KY and FL without any problems.

GA gave Bama all it could handle and easily could have won the game.

When you look at it, tOSU could EASILY be 10-3 (both PSU and MD were VERY, VERY close to losses.)

We've looked great in the last couple of games but have we forgotten that MANY of us expected losses during the Ped State and MD games?
 
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BuckBuckTN said:
One might check the eye test.

tOSU ALMOST lost to unranked MD..... SHOULD have lost to MD with a decent 2pt throw.

tOSU was WAY DOWN with 8min left to top 20 Ped State. A near miracle allowed us to pull it out.

tOSU almost let an unranked Nebraska take them in the 4th quarter.

tOSU got abused by nobody Purdue.

GA squeaked by playoff bound ND..... easily could have lost.

GA got abused by top 20 LSU, similar to ito loss to Purdue...... but not Purdue.

GA took overrated but ranked KY and FL without any problems.

GA gave Bama all it could handle and easily could have won the game.

When you look at it, tOSU could EASILY be 10-3 (both PSU and MD were VERY, VERY close to losses.)

We've looked great in the last couple of games but have we forgotten that MANY of us expected losses during the Ped State and MD games?
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By this logic why should OU be in over OSU?
 
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