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The Polls (AP, Coaches, & CFP, etc.)

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Gatorubet said:
And yet you ignore the two examples I posted. Georgia was dropped worse than TSUN. You need to post where other conferences with similar losses (similar ranked teams losing to similar teams) to make any of your comparisons valid. If ACC or Big-12 or B1G teams receive different treatment, then there must be some stat freak keeping a spread-sheet. Your cites only have relevancy if similar losses by other non-SEC conference teams result in non-similar drops. Hell, I can't find that info either. Not really opposing you so much as saying that I'd love to see something more scientific than your gut.

The problem is the SEC rep for good ball. So a loss to an in-conference foe is seen as a loss to a good team. THAT is the core of the ranking problem. You cure that by maybe having someone other than tOSU win the thing since today's players were born. You want conference respect in rankings (a loss to an SEC team not be worth less than a loss to a B1G team) - but claim that lack of conference success at the highest level has no role in perception. How you all convince yourself of that is quite puzzling to me.
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Never said Michigan shouldn’t have dropped further. And just because I hadn’t acknowledged that yet, doesn’t mean I’ve ignored it entirely. But again, you’ve given two examples. I gave you several examples, with plenty more out there of the pollsters widely ignoring results just to bolster a conference that largely beats the shit out of themselves.
 
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Systems_id said:
By this logic why should OU be in over OSU?
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The question is why shouldn't GA be in over both?

If you seriously think OU is better than EITHER GA or tOSU...... I don't. I won't.

But comparing GA to tOSU this year, we AGONIZED OVER MD..... and almost blew it to Ped State. At some point, we need to be thankful we didn't lose those two games...... or have you forgotten how close they were?
 
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BuckBuckTN said:
The question is why shouldn't GA be in over both?

If you seriously think OU is better than EITHER GA or tOSU...... I don't. I won't.

But comparing GA to tOSU this year, we AGONIZED OVER MD..... and almost blew it to Ped State. At some point, we need to be thankful we didn't lose those two games...... or have you forgotten how close they were?
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But we didn't lose those games so it doesn't matter. If Ohio State can't tout the fact they hammered a Top 4 Michigan game then you can't complain that they didn't beat certain teams by enough points. If margin of victory doesn't matter then margin of defeat shouldn't either.
 
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BuckBuckTN said:
One might check the eye test.

tOSU ALMOST lost to unranked MD..... SHOULD have lost to MD with a decent 2pt throw.

tOSU was WAY DOWN with 8min left to top 20 Ped State. A near miracle allowed us to pull it out.

tOSU almost let an unranked Nebraska take them in the 4th quarter.

tOSU got abused by nobody Purdue.

GA squeaked by playoff bound ND..... easily could have lost.

GA got abused by top 20 LSU, similar to ito loss to Purdue...... but not Purdue.

GA took overrated but ranked KY and FL without any problems.

GA gave Bama all it could handle and easily could have won the game.

When you look at it, tOSU could EASILY be 10-3 (both PSU and MD were VERY, VERY close to losses.)

We've looked great in the last couple of games but have we forgotten that MANY of us expected losses during the Ped State and MD games?
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Georgia never played Notre Dame. Saying that would imply that undefeated ND would have one loss (and miss the playoff). That was September of 2017.
 
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Systems_id said:
But we didn't lose those games so it doesn't matter. If Ohio State can't tout the fact they hammered a Top 4 Michigan game then you can't complain that they didn't beat certain teams by enough points. If margin of victory doesn't matter then margin of defeat shouldn't either.
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As I said, eye test.

If you think tOSU defense, play calling, etc has looked good...... uh......no.

Yeah, tOSU showed up BIG.... VERY BIG.... against ttun and looked good against NW, but lots of this season has been absolute agony.

Have you just forgotten how it -looked-..... eye test.
 
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BUCK3YE5 said:
This system is so bad it's difficult to fathom.

However, I wonder if the Big 10 has learned their lesson? As long as they are playing an extra conference game ever year they are fucking themselves while the SEC & ACC are cruising against FCS schools.

Its cost the conference a playoff spot 2 years in a row now. Time to wake the fuck up and make a change.
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Hello Dayton Flyers. Gene Smith is on line 1.
 
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Systems_id said:
Then what are you even arguing? Why are you even bringing up the eye test?
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I think GA at 5 makes sense, and frankly, possibly 4.

OU can suck it

But when you compare consistency thru the season, why must we forget..... Scarlett Glasses.... how terrible tOSU looked against MD and PSU? How much crap we took from Corn...... how many of us would not have been surprised to be 10-3.

GA has a strength of schedule rating above ours (and whether we like it or not, that's one of the criteria...... reality) and hasn't struggled with crap teams.

Eye test, again, is part of the reality of the system.

We can complain THE SYSTEM isn't fair, but by what I've seen of how they pick...... OU sucks, but tOSU can't edge out GA --- by the system in place. ---
 
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TooTallMenardo said:
But the criteria early on in the CFP’s lifecycle indicated SOS would be a decently large determining factor, and the Big Ten attempted to adapt. And now they suffer from being one of the few conferences to do so, while other conferences don’t do shit.
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Again, don't lose to 3-3 (at kickoff) teams by 30 points and everything else is moot.
 
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The "fix" was in starting last year to try and get 2 SEC teams in every year. The College Football Playoff has been politicized by ESPN to self serving purposes. The rest of college football has to figure out how to blow this rigged system up. The old BCS was actually better.
 
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