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We have the worst loss off the 1 loss teams. That has nothing to do with our shitty conference and doesn't allow you to stick it to any "take care of business and we're in" people.
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The best thing that could happen for Ohio State would be gettin an 11-1 top 10 Nebraska team in the BIG title game..........
That being said, there is still the Goofers, Indiana and scUM to beat before hand
That being said, there is still the Goofers, Indiana and scUM to beat before hand
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Losing to a 4-5 Virginia Tech squad is hardly an example of Ohio State "taking care of their own business."
You were right, I was wrong. The coaching was far from "even". Meyer-Herman completely dominated Dantonio-Narduzzi.
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I had not even considered the idea that each SEC team could have 2 losses but honestly, that is not a far fetched scenario whatsoever looking at the matchups. My gut says the committee will put at least 1 SEC team in though, which inclines me to root for MSU to win out and eliminate the rest...however, I do not find that likely at all. However, I do think there will only be a single one-loss SEC team standing that makes it in and the rest get left out. So then my analysis goes like this with 3 spots open:
FSU: Do not discount Florida beating them, they are playing much better and their defense could shut FSU's offense down. Plus FSU has not lit the world on fire. Also do not discount a shot from Duke in the championship game. Miami may give them a shot this week with the rivalry aspect but I doubt it. I kind of doubt they lose another game but if they do, I think they are undoubtedly out with a weak conference and questionable play pretty much all season. Plus the late loss opens the door for a hot team at the end of the season to jump them (see our Buckeyes).
TCU: Pretty clear march in unless Texas pulls a miracle...it is a night game in Austin though for the battle of Texas, so they have plenty of incentive. Really a shame there is no championship game...but if they struggle, that could hold them out if a team dominates the rest of their games and in the championship (again, see our Buckeyes). Some teams like Baylor and KSU loosing would also help denigrate their SOS. However, I believe if they win out, they are in.
Baylor: This is a team I could see us jumping even if they beat Texas Tech, OK State, and KSU to win out. Yes they beat TCU (61-58) and throttled Oklahoma last week. However, their non-conference schedule was terrible and they lost to an ailing WVU team. And to that end, how good is the Big 12 anyways? There is zero difference and no team has any impressive non-conference victory to speak of (the closest thing would be TCU beating unranked Minnesota at home 30-7). And if they bring up WVU playing Bama tough or KSU playing Auburn tough...does the B1G get any credit for Wisconsin nearly beating LSU? To be clear though, we absolutely want them to drop another game and I think that could very well happen with the rest of their schedule.
Oregon/ASU: ASU's stomping of ND this late in the season will not be forgetten...if they win out, they will go over us. Same applies to Oregon. Really need AU to upset ASU and then ASU to beat Oregon in the championship. Oregon's only potential loss would be to a sub-par Oregon State...I only say that because the Civil War is a huge rivalry game and it is in Corvallis...that place is wild during that game. I still think this scenario is not incredibly likely though, so I am thinking one of ASU/Oregon get a spot and my money is on Oregon.
Auburn/Ole Miss: I don't think either jump us if we take care of business, unless all SEC schools have 2 losses and one of these teams win the SEC. That is operating under the assumption that the SEC will get an obligatory spot, which I hope is not true.
- Aside from the MSU/Bama game, very little clarity will likely be added after next Saturday unless a major upset occurs (maybe Miami over FSU). Really what we need this week is for Nebraska to beat Wisky and Sparty to mandhandle Maryland. And of course, we need to handily beat Minnesota. Of final note, don't look now but every media outlet seems to be dolloping the praise on us after our win Saturday night. Almost everything I have read gives a nod to the fact that this is a completely different team now and the adjustment to new personal facing VT, particularly replacing Braxton. If those factors are considered by the committee (and they should), then we should have a fighters chance of getting in if we handle our own business right.
FSU: Do not discount Florida beating them, they are playing much better and their defense could shut FSU's offense down. Plus FSU has not lit the world on fire. Also do not discount a shot from Duke in the championship game. Miami may give them a shot this week with the rivalry aspect but I doubt it. I kind of doubt they lose another game but if they do, I think they are undoubtedly out with a weak conference and questionable play pretty much all season. Plus the late loss opens the door for a hot team at the end of the season to jump them (see our Buckeyes).
TCU: Pretty clear march in unless Texas pulls a miracle...it is a night game in Austin though for the battle of Texas, so they have plenty of incentive. Really a shame there is no championship game...but if they struggle, that could hold them out if a team dominates the rest of their games and in the championship (again, see our Buckeyes). Some teams like Baylor and KSU loosing would also help denigrate their SOS. However, I believe if they win out, they are in.
Baylor: This is a team I could see us jumping even if they beat Texas Tech, OK State, and KSU to win out. Yes they beat TCU (61-58) and throttled Oklahoma last week. However, their non-conference schedule was terrible and they lost to an ailing WVU team. And to that end, how good is the Big 12 anyways? There is zero difference and no team has any impressive non-conference victory to speak of (the closest thing would be TCU beating unranked Minnesota at home 30-7). And if they bring up WVU playing Bama tough or KSU playing Auburn tough...does the B1G get any credit for Wisconsin nearly beating LSU? To be clear though, we absolutely want them to drop another game and I think that could very well happen with the rest of their schedule.
Oregon/ASU: ASU's stomping of ND this late in the season will not be forgetten...if they win out, they will go over us. Same applies to Oregon. Really need AU to upset ASU and then ASU to beat Oregon in the championship. Oregon's only potential loss would be to a sub-par Oregon State...I only say that because the Civil War is a huge rivalry game and it is in Corvallis...that place is wild during that game. I still think this scenario is not incredibly likely though, so I am thinking one of ASU/Oregon get a spot and my money is on Oregon.
Auburn/Ole Miss: I don't think either jump us if we take care of business, unless all SEC schools have 2 losses and one of these teams win the SEC. That is operating under the assumption that the SEC will get an obligatory spot, which I hope is not true.
- Aside from the MSU/Bama game, very little clarity will likely be added after next Saturday unless a major upset occurs (maybe Miami over FSU). Really what we need this week is for Nebraska to beat Wisky and Sparty to mandhandle Maryland. And of course, we need to handily beat Minnesota. Of final note, don't look now but every media outlet seems to be dolloping the praise on us after our win Saturday night. Almost everything I have read gives a nod to the fact that this is a completely different team now and the adjustment to new personal facing VT, particularly replacing Braxton. If those factors are considered by the committee (and they should), then we should have a fighters chance of getting in if we handle our own business right.
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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
Relative to the undefeated teams, yes. No one, however, has yet to provide me with a reasonable explanation of how it's not taking care of business relative to the gaggle of other 1-loss teams that will edge us out of the playoffs. You can debate the semantics of whose loss is better or worse, but at the end of the day it's not the quality of the loss that has us as the last 1-loss team in. Rather, it's the quality of our victories (i.e. the weak Big Ten) that has placed us in that position.
Is TCU giving up 61 points in a loss, taking care of business? Is ASU giving up 62 at home taking care of business? Is Oregon losing at home to what will probably be a 3-loss DickRod team taking care of business? The sad reality is that those teams had conferences and schedules where they could undo their losses. We don't, so I'm sick of people saying they don't care about the Big Ten because it doesn't matter because "as long as we win, we're in." Well, we've won to the same degree as every other 1-loss team out there, but we are looking to be coming out of the bathroom holding nothing but our dicks. We need a better Big Ten, and this season above all else should finally be proof of that.
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The fact remains: If Ohio State goes undefeated in 2014, then they are in the playoffs. Period. That's the ONLY way that Ohio State can control their own destiny. Ohio State has no ability to make the Big Ten conference stronger, so why bitch and moan about it all the time? And why blame Ohio State for the weakness of the Big Ten?
Taking care of business means beating the teams on your actual schedule - that's all Ohio State can do.
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HorticullyBuck
miniature giant space buckeye!
i cant see bama winning out... i'll bet all my vcash (is there any?) on that
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maximumblitz
Buckeye Samurai of Big League Blitzkreig
Hey WAKE UP!!!
Thanks for the wake up call.
They way I see it, the odds of getting into the playoff are so low, that we might want to take a "strategic direction" in the tSUN game, to inflict maximum destruction. In order to keep Brady Hoke up their helping tOSU, why not let tSUN win THE GAME? They would give him another year to further wreck the program, if that is even possible.
This would be analogous to "laying down on defense" to let the other team score quickly. It would be a "strategic loss". Just like a team intentionally losing the last few games of the season to get better draft picks.
tOSU would still win the East by virtue of the head2head at MSU, and go onto the conference championship.
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
1. SEC winner w/one loss or possibly none if MSU wins out (MSU/Alabama)
2. ACC winner w/no losses (Free Shoes)
3. PAC12 winner w/one loss (Oregon/ASU)
4. Big XII winner w/one loss (TCU/Baylor)
5. B1G winner (Ohio State)
6. SEC (loser of MSU/Alabama game)
Currently I see it this way (above). There are still a lot of games to play, we need Free Shoes to lose the ACC Championship game or another conference champion to have 2 losses.
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