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Teams Ohio State Needs to Lose

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maximumblitz said:
Thanks for the wake up call.

They way I see it, the odds of getting into the playoff are so low, that we might want to take a "strategic direction" in the tSUN game, to inflict maximum destruction. In order to keep Brady Hoke up their helping tOSU, why not let tSUN win THE GAME? They would give him another year to further wreck the program, if that is even possible.

This would be analogous to "laying down on defense" to let the other team score quickly. It would be a "strategic loss". Just like a team intentionally losing the last few games of the season to get better draft picks.

tOSU would still win the East by virtue of the head2head at MSU, and go onto the conference championship.
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Apparently, you're very grumpy when you wake up.
 
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maximumblitz said:
why not let tSUN win THE GAME?
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TampaBuckeyes said:
The way I see it is there is only one team from each conference in. Winner of asu/ducks will be there baring a miracle. One sec team, which could be miss st or Bama. TCU or Baylor. Nebraska/wisky/us. And Forced Sex Uni. There are scenarios for each of them dropping a game. I think at this point the noles is the team everyone wants to drop but they just keep hanging on the win. If every other conference has a one loss champ (or FSU loses) then we only get in if the committee bumps us over b12 for championship game. Unlikely but possible. There's no room for 2 sec teams this year. And remember. It isn't that the top 4 get in. The committee only does a ranking for the sake of doing it. They use the rankings as a tool, but in the end they select the teams. Teams don't need to break into the top 4 like they had in the past. They just need to make a case for themselves. In the basketball one the 1-4 in last poll don't automatically get 1 seeds.
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No the top-4 ranking are the teams that go in. They don't hand select them. There's a number of articles covering how they did a mock setup for 2008 so the press could understand it. The ranking they come out with does decide who goes and the seeding for home/neutral/away -- not only that, but who participates in the other 4 associated bowls. The rankings matter out to about 12 + highest ranked outside the power 5 (if they're not in the top 12)

LordJeffBuck said:
Losing to a 4-5 Virginia Tech squad is hardly an example of Ohio State "taking care of their own business."


You were right, I was wrong. The coaching was far from "even". Meyer-Herman completely dominated Dantonio-Narduzzi. :urban2:
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I stand by the statement I made. Going in, Herman was definitely the underdog. Glad he took the final step and called an outstanding game.
If you were looking to quote somebody who was doom and gloom on Herman, you picked the wrong one.
 
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After rewatching the MSU game...I think we handily beat anyone in the Big 12 right now. The defense is atrocious in that conference and there is no way either of Baylor or TCU come remotely close to slowing our offense down...49 against one of the best defense in college football could easily turn into 70 against them. Even if I give them the benefit of the doubt and say they manage to hold us to 49, our defense is playing well enough to not let them score that much. I think the Big 12 has more quality teams overall but the top 2-3 teams I would take the B1G based on our defenses having a pulse, specifically us. I really think the SOS for the Big 12 has been grossly inflated based on everyone's boners to see 50+ points scored by each team in every game.
 
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kujirakira said:
No the top-4 ranking are the teams that go in. They don't hand select them. There's a number of articles covering how they did a mock setup for 2008 so the press could understand it. The ranking they come out with does decide who goes and the seeding for home/neutral/away -- not only that, but who participates in the other 4 associated bowls. The rankings matter out to about 12 + highest ranked outside the power 5 (if they're not in the top 12)



I stand by the statement I made. Going in, Herman was definitely the underdog. Glad he took the final step and called an outstanding game.
If you were looking to quote somebody who was doom and gloom on Herman, you picked the wrong one.
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What I'm saying is a committee get's to choose who the top 4 teams are. They are the Selection Committee and they Select the Top-4, and then select who goes to which of the big bowls. It's not a poll with 500 people, where it's really hard to jump people. It's 12 or so people in a room together (attempting to) have a rational conversation of who deserves it. They take things like winning your conference, play at the end of the year, injuries, etc. into play that a poll wouldn't do. They will likely try to dissect everyone's losses and everyone's good or close wins. Whereas the AP poll is a 'this team was 12 last week and they beat FCS cupcase, so they go up'.
I think if you go into the last week with MSU at 3, Bama/Ole Piss/Auburn at 4, TCU/Baylor at 5, and they all win their games, a poll would not be able to move them because they won. In a committee they can rationalize it and put TCU in the playoff. I guess you're right in that they would move TCU up to 4 and the SEC2 down to 5, but they have the ability to do that. It's a lot more flexible than a poll.
 
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maximumblitz said:
Thanks for the wake up call.

They way I see it, the odds of getting into the playoff are so low, that we might want to take a "strategic direction" in the tSUN game, to inflict maximum destruction. In order to keep Brady Hoke up their helping tOSU, why not let tSUN win THE GAME? They would give him another year to further wreck the program, if that is even possible.

This would be analogous to "laying down on defense" to let the other team score quickly. It would be a "strategic loss". Just like a team intentionally losing the last few games of the season to get better draft picks.

tOSU would still win the East by virtue of the head2head at MSU, and go onto the conference championship.
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What. The. Pumpkin! Are you aware we would all have to listen the traitorous Ohioans that root for that cesspool of a team? No thank you.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
Relative to the undefeated teams, yes. No one, however, has yet to provide me with a reasonable explanation of how it's not taking care of business relative to the gaggle of other 1-loss teams that will edge us out of the playoffs. You can debate the semantics of whose loss is better or worse, but at the end of the day it's not the quality of the loss that has us as the last 1-loss team in. Rather, it's the quality of our victories (i.e. the weak Big Ten) that has placed us in that position.

Is TCU giving up 61 points in a loss, taking care of business? Is ASU giving up 62 at home taking care of business? Is Oregon losing at home to what will probably be a 3-loss DickRod team taking care of business? The sad reality is that those teams had conferences and schedules where they could undo their losses. We don't, so I'm sick of people saying they don't care about the Big Ten because it doesn't matter because "as long as we win, we're in." Well, we've won to the same degree as every other 1-loss team out there, but we are looking to be coming out of the bathroom holding nothing but our dicks. We need a better Big Ten, and this season above all else should finally be proof of that.
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I don't agree.
 
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The latest Top 10 post Saturday:
  1. Mississippi St.
  2. Oregon
  3. Florida St.
  4. TCU
  5. Alabama
  6. Arizona St.
  7. .Baylor
  8. Ohio St.
  9. Auburn
  10. Mississippi

If I had to guess what they will do for Tuesday night:

  1. Bama
  2. Oregon
  3. MissState
  4. FSU
  5. Ohio State
  6. TCU
  7. Baylor
Maybe they won't make the move of OSU over B12 teams yet but I think it will happen.

We are big fans of Auburn, Oregon State (again), Ole Miss and, just to be safe, Kansas State from here on out.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
The latest Top 10 post Saturday:
  1. Mississippi St.
  2. Oregon
  3. Florida St.
  4. TCU
  5. Alabama
  6. Arizona St.
  7. .Baylor
  8. Ohio St.
  9. Auburn
  10. Mississippi

If I had to guess what they will do for Tuesday night:

  1. Bama
  2. Oregon
  3. MissState
  4. FSU
  5. Ohio State
  6. TCU
  7. Baylor
Maybe they won't make the move of OSU over B12 teams yet but I think it will happen.

We are big fans of Auburn, Oregon State (again), Ole Miss and, just to be safe, Kansas State from here on out.
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I can't see how they keep TCU above Baylor. All of TCU's "big wins" early in the season are no longer ranked. As of now, they've played one ranked team (Baylor) that hung 61 frickin' points on them. Texas seems to be in the process of unhoking themselves, so that game should be interesting.

So over the next two weeks, Ohio State has legitamate shots at the following happening dropping four more teams to two losses.

Texas over TCU
KSU over Baylor
Ole Miss over MSU
Auburn over Bama

Oregon and FSU are highly unlikely to be challenged until their conference championship games.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
I can't see how they keep TCU above Baylor. All of TCU's "big wins" early in the season are no longer ranked. As of now, they've played one ranked team (Baylor) that hung 61 frickin' points on them. Texas seems to be in the process of unhoking themselves, so that game should be interesting.

So over the next two weeks, Ohio State has legitamate shots at the following happening dropping four more teams to two losses.

Texas over TCU
KSU over Baylor
Ole Miss over MSU
Auburn over Bama

Oregon and FSU are highly unlikely to be challenged until their conference championship games.
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FSU is going to get it's biggest "challenge" from UF for whatever that is worth. Who would they play in ACC CG Duke?

Forgot to add ASU to the list of "root for" if they get Oregon in the PAC 12 CG game. Don't sleep on Oregon State in the Civil War. Oregon has some injuries.
 
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Does UCLA still have a shot to play Oregon in the CCG? They seem to be turning things around.

Looking at the standings it appears that they control their own destiny. They might have the best shot at beating the Ducks.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
FSU is going to get it's biggest "challenge" from UF for whatever that is worth. Who would they play in ACC CG Duke?

Forgot to add ASU to the list of "root for" if they get Oregon in the PAC 12 CG game. Don't sleep on Oregon State in the Civil War. Oregon has some injuries.
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ACC conference championship game would be against Ga. Tech right now.

I think we need at least 1 of Alabama and Mississippi to drop another game to feal comfortable with OSU being in front of one. Both play really bad OOC teams before playing Auburn and Ole Miss, respectively. The second loss probably doesn't matter. An SEC team will be in the playoffs.

I think the commitee will keep at least 1 single loss Big 12 team ahead of OSU. So for OSU to get in ahead of them, both will need to lose.Baylor plays OkSU, @TTU, then KSU. TCU has bye, @UT, ISU.

OSU could also use a loss by the Ducks who have Colorado, @OrSU, PAC 12 South winner (USC, right now).
 
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