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Official Super Bowl thread....

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Sure, there were a FEW bad calls in this game, and some probable/questionable ones, but not all of them would have made an impact on the outcome of the game, some calls like the stupid one on Hassleback for the tackle changed nothing.
You can call it tainted, but the Seahawks certainly weren't in control of this football game at all. They had only 1 TD the whole game, and it came after a huge INT return that already put them in the Red Zone. Steelers produced not 1, at least 2, and 3 TDs counting Ben's TD. You could throw that one out and they still win, but the tip of the ball did touch the goal line, which is all you need.
Seahawks can come back and win it next year. With the way the NFC played this year, they'll be favorites again I'm sure. You have to hand it to the Steelers, they were underdogs in basically EVERY playoff game, on the road for all of them too, and they dominated each game. It was Seattle's game to lose, and ultimately they blew some chances that cost them the game. I'm sure most of the people complaining aren't Seahawk fans by nature, but Bengals/Browns fans....or somebody that lost a bet :wink2:
Anyway, its good to see the Bus leaving the game with a championship. Hes a class act and deserves it, despite the crazy hype media adds in about his career. I've followed him since his college days at ND, I saw the beginning of the Bus and I've seen the end.
I'll still be a Steeler fan after this season, but I'll be pulling for Cinci to make it to a SB again next year after Carson went down.
 
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ulukinatme said:
Sure, there were a FEW bad calls in this game, and some probable/questionable ones, but not all of them would have made an impact on the outcome of the game, some calls like the stupid one on Hassleback for the tackle changed nothing.
You can call it tainted, but the Seahawks certainly weren't in control of this football game at all. They had only 1 TD the whole game, and it came after a huge INT return that already put them in the Red Zone. Steelers produced not 1, at least 2, and 3 TDs counting Ben's TD. You could throw that one out and they still win, but the tip of the ball did touch the goal line, which is all you need.
Seahawks can come back and win it next year. With the way the NFC played this year, they'll be favorites again I'm sure. You have to hand it to the Steelers, they were underdogs in basically EVERY playoff game, on the road for all of them too, and they dominated each game. It was Seattle's game to lose, and ultimately they blew some chances that cost them the game. I'm sure most of the people complaining aren't Seahawk fans by nature, but Bengals/Browns fans....or somebody that lost a bet :wink2:
Anyway, its good to see the Bus leaving the game with a championship. Hes a class act and deserves it, despite the crazy hype media adds in about his career. I've followed him since his college days at ND, I saw the beginning of the Bus and I've seen the end.
I'll still be a Steeler fan after this season, but I'll be pulling for Cinci to make it to a SB again next year after Carson went down.
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Not a Bengals or Browns fan, and I didn't lose a bet.

You can't honestly believe that the bad calls didn't have an impact on the score of this game, can you?

The officials erased 7 points on a bad call (D Jack's TD), and the chance for 7 more on another bad call (Locklear's holding call on the pass to the two).

The 'Hawks got jobbed
 
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The Hawks were never in control of this game, and even if it wasn't a hard push, the Seahawk's WR still pushed off in the end zone, so that call was correct.
I didn't say that there weren't a few bad calls, but they didn't all affect the outcome of the game. The Seahawks had the chance, and ultimately they didn't capitalize. Like I said, you could have taken away Ben's TD, in which the ball did touch the goal line...or you could have given the Seahawks another TD...either way they still lose. They made mistakes all over the place, the end of that last 1st half drive was a perfect example. Their offense was handed their ONLY touchdown by an interception.
 
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ulukinatme said:
The Hawks were never in control of this game, and even if it wasn't a hard push, the Seahawk's WR still pushed off in the end zone, so that call was correct.
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But I guess the hold during the route was perfectly ok? And it was more obvious than that supposed push off that didn't effect the play.

ulukinatme said:
I didn't say that there weren't a few bad calls, but they didn't all affect the outcome of the game. The Seahawks had the chance, and ultimately they didn't capitalize. Like I said, you could have taken away Ben's TD, in which the ball did touch the goal line...or you could have given the Seahawks another TD...either way they still lose. They made mistakes all over the place, the end of that last 1st half drive was a perfect example. Their offense was handed their ONLY touchdown by an interception.
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You can't capitalize if everytime you have a big play, some phantom call takes it away.

Ben's arm broke the plane, the ball did not.

Offsided on Pittsburgh, not holding on Seattle. Should have been 1st down at the two. Erased on a horrible call.

BRoth runs, Hines Wards holds. Right there with Death and Taxes. Not called.

Seattle got jobbed
 
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Believe what you will, many of the analysts and experts at ESPN have already written their SB articles and opinions, and the only one actually believing the refs cost Seattle the game is Michael Smith. The others place the blame squarely on Seattle's inability to execute. Seattle had 7 penalties all game, there were only 2 possible ones that could have been nixed...obviously the tackle by Hassleback, and the holding which is debatable. That still only gives the Seahawks a possible 7 points ( provided they actually get it in the endzone, they were 1/3 in the red zone ). If they score the TD, Pittsburgh still would get the ball halfway through the 4th quarter and run time off the clock. Seattle held the ball 5 minutes more than Pitt during the game as well, so they had the clock on their side.
Seattle couldn't stop a 3rd and 28 by Pittsburgh, not something a championship calibur team does. It led to the run by Ben...which was replayed and upheld.
Seattle's only TD was a present from their defense, they couldn't get into the endzone on their own without penalties other times.
Seattle couldn't stop the trick pass by Randel-El...despite similar plays used against Cinci in the playoffs and the Browns at the end of the season. Poor scouting on their part.
Seattle didn't get jobbed, they jobbed to themselves.
 
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ABJ

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Pittsburgh Steelers win one for the jaw

ALAN ROBINSON

Associated Press

<!-- begin body-content --> DETROIT - Bill Cowher's jutting jaw is one of the NFL's most recognizable sights. So is his sneer, his flying spittle and that nasty scowl that can send the biggest and toughest player scrambling to the end of the bench to avoid him.
Something else became familiar about the NFL's longest-tenured coach: the inability to win big games.
Maybe that's why the man known as the Jaw underwent a personality change to help the Pittsburgh Steelers win one for the thumb, a 21-10 win over Seattle on Sunday that gave the franchise the fifth Super Bowl title it has sought for more than a quarter-century.
"This may not hit me for a couple of days," said Cowher, who broke into tears in the closing seconds of the Steelers' first Super Bowl victory since January 1980.
Maybe it's because he's spent 14 years chasing it.
To win this title, Cowher no longer was conservative ol' Bill in the big games - the coach who, down two touchdowns to the Patriots in the fourth quarter of the AFC championship last season, went for a field goal.
Replacing him was a coach who twice went for it on fourth-and-short situations in the playoffs, who told his offensive coordinator to regularly reach into his gadget bag - such as receiver Antwaan Randle El's Super Bowl-clinching TD pass to Hines Ward.
Out went the coach whose modus operandi for years was to run, run, run the ball and never turn it over to his quarterback. Replacing him was the coach who handed the ball to 23-year-old Ben Roethlisberger before the playoffs and said, "We'll go as far as he takes us."
And that was to a Super Bowl championship - is that good enough?
For all his changes, though, Cowher is being credited for keeping his team together by staying the same even when the Steelers were 7-5 in December and one more loss away from missing the playoffs, much less sweeping them.
"We are a tough-minded, physical, hard-nosed team, and I think we reflect our coach's character," Jerome Bettis said. "That's why we're consistent year in and year out."
Wearing their lucky white road uniforms Sunday night even though they were designated as the home team, the Steelers finished off their unprecedented sweep of the top three seeded teams in the AFC - on the road, no less - and the top-seeded team in the NFC.
And the coach who got so much grief for being outcoached twice in AFC title games by the Patriots' Bill Belichick, for not having his teams prepared or inspired for title games clearly did the best coaching job of his career under the toughest circumstances.
And Cowher did so by invoking such diverse figures as Christopher Columbus and Bettis.
When the Steelers were 7-5, Cowher stood up at a team meeting and told his players that the journey looked hard and tough but could be done.
He cited Columbus' unknown journey to a new world in 1492, and how his players could chart a path never accomplished by an NFL team - a unique pep-talk blend of American history and NFL history. No team had won three road playoff games and the Super Bowl, much less the four games before them just to reach the playoffs.
"Guys kind of liked that," Cowher said. "There's a lot of people telling you that you can't do it, but that doesn't mean you don't go try. I told our guys that history is not going to determine our fate, but we could determine history."
Last month, Cowher's players began talking openly of winning a championship not just for The Bus, but for a coach who is No. 14 in NFL career victories but had been 1-5 in championship games before this season.
"This one will always be remembered," linebacker Joey Porter said. "It's never been done before what we did. We kept being told we couldn't do this, and that's what we needed."
By letting Big Ben take him to a Super Bowl, Cowher no longer faces unenviable comparisons to Chuck Noll, his predecessor who won those four Super Bowls - the first one in the 1974 season by putting the ball in the hands of a young quarterback named Bradshaw.
Just as Cowher told his players to learn from history, apparently he did, too.
"We wiped the slate clean. Each week was a unique set of circumstances," Cowher said. "We gained some confidence and we started to have a pretty good team."
Now, the Steelers have their fifth title, but their first under Cowher. That's one reason why owner Dan Rooney plans to display this Lombardi Trophy apart from the other four.
"It is going to be by itself," he said.
But even after winning the title that has long eluded him, Cowher isn't done yet with games. On Monday night, he plans to be in North Allegheny High School's gym to watch daughters Lauren and Lindsay play basketball for Fox Chapel.
Both got big hugs Sunday night, as did wife Kaye and daughter Meagan, a sophomore star at Princeton.
"I can't wait," Cowher said of watching his daughters' game.
Especially since he's waited so long for this.
 
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I think it's kind of funny that every time a team loses that we want to win, we blame the refs. This time is no different, evidenced by many posters here--a lot of people wanted the Steelers to lose, and now that they're Super Bowl champs, instead of giving them credit for beating the #1, #2, and #3 teams in their own conference as well as the #1 team from the other conference, people attempt to claim it was only due to the refs (EDIT: Some people, like NFBuck are taking the high road here and giving the Steelers credit they deserve).

I couldn't have cared less who won the Super Bowl last night. But I'll give the Steelers some credit for beating the top teams (as shown above) and for winning 8 in a row. There was a point in this season when people had written them off and it looked very unlikely that they would even make the playoffs. But you know what? They went out and got it done, and they deserve to be champs.

As for Seattle, they should look at themselves in the mirror before pointing at the refs. No way in the world should Hasselbeck be throwing the ball 49 times in a game when you've got the NFL MVP as a running back. And as for that MVP, he needs to have a little more than 95 yards on 20 carries. On the biggest stage, Alexander looked very mediocre in my opinion. The Seahawks have no one to blame but themselves for this loss--as poorly as Pittsburgh's offense played in the first half, there's no way in the world that Seattle should have been losing at the half. They consistently squandered good field position, and their offense consistently faltered just about the time they were to get into field goal range.

Bottom line: All week long, everyone was saying that the Steelers were the better team, and they showed that they were last night. Seattle's got a nice team (I thought their defense was solid), and they had a good season, but Pittsburgh was just better.
 
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I didn't want anybody to win, I couldn't have cared less, but what I DID care about was seeing a good game... and I didn't, it was a terrible game to watch for EVERYONE except Steelers fans, and that's what sucks about it.
 
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buckeyeboy said:
I think it's kind of funny that every time a team loses that we want to win, we blame the refs.
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One more time for the cheap seats. I don't give a flying fuck about the NFL on a regular basis. I watch the Superbowl and only the Superbowl every year. Just as I only watch the Daytona 500 and no other race, because its the freaking Daytona 500. My hometown.

Yes, Seattle made mistakes by dropping a few passes. But yet they still out played Pittsburgh for all but two plays. A 75 yard thing of beauty by Fast Willie Parker and a gadget play from 82 to 86.

Outside of those two plays, Seattle out played Pittsburgh. Yet everytime they threatened to score, a penalty flag was throw negating the play.

I always hear "You can call holding on everyplay". If this is true, then why was it only called against Seattle at critical times? Pittsburgh's holding on a few plays was borderline Sexual Assault. Never called.

Why was Offensive PI called when there was clearly defensive holding earlier in the play?

Why was Locklear called for holding on a play where Pittsburgh should have been flagged for offsides?

And again, the most bizarre call of them all. A 15 yarder on Hasselbeck for TACKLING THE BALL CARRIER!!!!!

And as mentioned by someone else earlier, the ruled non-catch by Stevens when he had he ball for three full steps before losing it out of bounds. Three full steps and it was waved off as incomplete.

The officiating was just too clearly in favor of the Stealers to be overlooked.
 
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It would suck to be a Steelers' fan and have to continuously defend this victory.

But can anyone here honestly say that Seattle deserved to win that game? You cannot drop that many passes. You cannot let a mediocre running back burst for 75 yards. You cannot let Big Ben scramble to one yard before the line of scrimmage, launch a prayer and let it be complete on third and long. You cannot give up playground gimmick TDs. You cannot miss two field goals. You cannot mismanage the clock at the end of the first half that bad.

If any team deserved to win this game, it was Pittsburgh. I wish the officiating had been better, and I've never seen a more baffling call than the penalty on Hasselback, but there's only one team in the NFL right now that has earned the right to call themselves NFL Champions - and that's the Pittsburgh "fucking" Steelers.
 
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