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Notre Dame (football only discussion)

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Merih;1801126; said:
Jim Tressel on Tuesday afternoon (just hours before the accident at Notre Dame):

"I think we're going to move practice inside today. I worry about the safety of our camera guys up there 50 feet in the air, I'm worried about that."

"You win with people", as Hayes famously coined. People includes everyone involved, and you have to think about everyones safety not just the players. If Jim Tressel, head coach of a Top Ten team that has BCS hopes and a litany of things they need to work on can still think about everyone involved then there's no excuse for any staff not to.
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This is why I don't bitch and moan when we lose one or two games a year......Not only do we have a great football team, but we have a leader with character that is genuinely a great person.
 
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And that's what we need to appreciate. Winning is easy to appreciate, but you can't take away the importance of character.

jenkinswoody;1801177; said:
This is why I don't bitch and moan when we lose one or two games a year......Not only do we have a great football team, but we have a leader with character that is genuinely a great person.
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AKAKBUCK;1801167; said:
This is one of those, "Everyone Chill the [censored] out moments"

A young person died needlessly, that's the tragedy here... let's sort out those at fault and go from there...

Have a nice day.:wink2:
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Actually lets not sort the fault out and let proper folks take care of it. (Which is what I think you mean to say anyway, but it seems like since this is the internet some folks feel free to rush to judgement when shutting the fuck up might be the better choice. )
 
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matcar;1801253; said:
Actually lets not sort the fault out and let proper folks take care of it. (Which is what I think you mean to say anyway, but it seems like since this is the internet some folks feel free to rush to judgement when shutting the fuck up might be the better choice. )
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HEY! Why let the facts get in the way of a perfectly good rant and rumor fest? :tongue2:
 
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Whitlock chimes in:
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefoo...st-fire-brian-kelly-over-student-death-102910
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In recent years, Notre Dame dismissed Bob Davie, Tyrone Willingham and Charlie Weis for failing to win enough games. The school canned George O'Leary for exaggerating on his resume.

Those "crimes" pale in comparison to allowing student managers to go up in 50-foot-tall lifts to film practice in hazardous wind conditions.
Mitigating circumstances do not matter. Notre Dame's video coordinator should not be held responsible. Declan Sullivan, who tweeted before and during practice the weather conditions were terrifying and life threatening, certainly isn't to blame.
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The head football coach has final say over everything that transpires on the practice field. Everything. That's why Ohio State's Jim Tressel moved the Buckeyes' practice inside on Tuesday when wind gusts made conditions unsafe.

"I don't know if we'll be inside or out," Tressel told Ohio reporters 24 hours before the Notre Dame tragedy. "It looks a little nasty. I worry about our cameramen, their well-being up there 50 feet in the air."
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Chicago sports radio played Swarbrick's comments today and then utterly ripped into him. To me he sounded like someone saying solely what an attorney (either his or the university's) had told him to say.

Nobody who was 75 miles away in Chicago on Wednesday would have described it as "unremarkable." On the radio it was being joked about as "Hurricane Ditka." Perhaps, South Bend was some isolated sea of tranquility but seeing as this weather front effected coaches hundreds of miles to the West (Ferentz) and Southeast (Tressel) to simultaneously move practice indoors, I have a hard time believing that.

Few answers from Notre Dame on student's fatal accident

University officials offered few answers Thursday when pressed about the accident and the decision to record the workout from an extended scissor lift. They sidestepped questions about Sullivan's Twitter feed, which indicated the junior from suburban Long Grove was terrified as gusts swirled about him during practice Wednesday.

His Tweet seemed at odds with the administration's account that weather conditions were "unremarkable" before the lift toppled over. National Weather Service data also appeared to contradict the conditions described by Notre Dame Athletic Director Jack Swarbrick.
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Zippercat;1801397; said:
HEY! Why let the facts get in the way of a perfectly good rant and rumor fest? :tongue2:
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Actually, the facts--from National Weather Service data, to actions by other major college football coaches in the region, to the experience of 9 million Chicagoans that afternoon--seem to be quickly and strongly lining up against the ND version of things.
 
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His Tweet seemed at odds with the administration's account that weather conditions were "unremarkable" before the lift toppled over. National Weather Service data also appeared to contradict the conditions described by Notre Dame Athletic Director Jack Swarbrick.
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Absolutely infuriating. I hope that prick is burned at the stake.
 
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And a pretty damn poor one it seems. "Unremarkable"???? What an idiotic thing to say. I'm glad he did, as I hope the parents are suing Notre Dame, and that ass-hat's statement will help their case. I can't imagine losing a son like that.

I do know that when I was 19 working construction I was talking into doing unsafe things ( like work without a safety line walking along a three inch ledge 60 feet above a cement floor while carrying a billowing sheet of visqueen in one hand and grabbing rebar with my free hand to move along the ledge) because I did not want to look like a wuss to the older workers.

I know how a kid can ignore the hazard. They all think they are bullet proof at that age. That is why the safety rules have to be set up by ND and the staff. Idiots!!!
 
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