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Mo Clarett vs Beanie Wells

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Who is Better on Field RB

  • Mo Clarett

    Votes: 66 30.4%

  • Beanie Wells

    Votes: 151 69.6%
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bucklifer;988808; said:
Clarett was more naturally talented. It's alreadt been said in this thread and I agree: Clarett was the most naturally talented RB Ohio State has ever had. Too bad they overused him, which led to his stinger injury. It's also too bad his mom and everyone else were in his ear to go to the NFL.
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Pretty much wrong and wrong here. MoC had huge talent, but dont try and compare him to the most "naturally" talented backs we've had here. "Naturally" talented would to me, anyway, imply physical traits that distinguish one from the rest of the pack, as well as physical health. Clarett was pretty much hurt in one way or another from his sophomore year in High School to his time here. You wanna talk about "Naturally" talented, then lets talk about, and in no specific order:

Archie Griffin: A tiny human being. Archie came to TOSU at about 5'7" and about 165 pounds. If you've ever seen him up close, you know what I'm talking about. But, this "little man" had the most obscene thighs that you'll ever see on a man his size. Couple that with the "cat" effect. Ever pick up a cat and throw it up in the air? You can twist it and all kinds of stuff and it always lands on its feet. This was Archie personified.

Keith Byars: The most dominant year for a RB in CFB that I ever saw was Keith in 1984. An Absolute physical specimen that could run over linebackers, and out run safeties. Go and shake hands with Keith, if you ever get the chance. This guy can not only palm a basketball, he can palm an exersize ball. The health issue that I brought up gets wasted here, because if it wern't for a "Hail-Mary" and a fluke broken foot in camp in 1985, Keith would have been only the second man to ever win 2 Heisman Trophies.

Robert Smith: Until Ted Ginn, the "fastest" football player that I have ever seen. From his freshman debut against Texas tech to the day he left here, Robert's "natural" physical ability was unparralled. Take away a guy named Chris Nelloms, who was arguably the greatest Track athlete ever in Ohio, and Robert wins countless state titles in the sprints. Forget about Nelloms, and you have one of the most intelligent players we've ever had here, who had one hell of a career in the NFL.

That's just my 2 cents.

Peace.
 
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MD Buckeye;988790; said:
I agree with you there, but if he wouldn't of made that strip when tOSU turned it over, I think the game would've been over. Either way....We won. :biggrin:
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shoulda woulda coulda yet... not so much. clarrett doesn't get the strip and miami gets the ball on the 35 or whatever. dorsey drops back to pass, smith crushes him as he is throwing and pick 6 to gamble. game over we win. see, i can play the hypothetical game too. :biggrin:

no one play in and of itself dictates the outcome of a game. you can't invalidate the play of others because of one play. people still pin losses on gamble and springs for "slips" that allowed a single td. :rolleyes: oh and last i checked, it was krenzel not clarrett who was named player of the game.

clarrett has the strip
doss has picks
wilhelm ko'd dorsey
our entire d line made their o line call em daddy
jenkins hands the cb his jock on 4th adn 14 in ot
krenzel.. gee he didn't do much that game...

the fact is, clarrett was a cog in the machine. but he accomplished nothing on his own. without him we likely don't make the nc game let alone win it. but there are 24+ other guys i could say that about as well.
 
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shoulda woulda coulda yet... not so much. clarrett doesn't get the strip and miami gets the ball on the 35 or whatever.
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If Clarett didn't shed the block and stop Taylor, let alone strip the ball, Taylor runs that all the way back for 6.
 
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WoodyWorshiper;988925; said:
Pretty much wrong and wrong here. MoC had huge talent, but dont try and compare him to the most "naturally" talented backs we've had here. "Naturally" talented would to me, anyway, imply physical traits that distinguish one from the rest of the pack, as well as physical health. Clarett was pretty much hurt in one way or another from his sophomore year in High School to his time here. You wanna talk about "Naturally" talented, then lets talk about, and in no specific order:

Archie Griffin: A tiny human being. Archie came to TOSU at about 5'7" and about 165 pounds. If you've ever seen him up close, you know what I'm talking about. But, this "little man" had the most obscene thighs that you'll ever see on a man his size. Couple that with the "cat" effect. Ever pick up a cat and throw it up in the air? You can twist it and all kinds of stuff and it always lands on its feet. This was Archie personified.

Keith Byars: The most dominant year for a RB in CFB that I ever saw was Keith in 1984. An Absolute physical specimen that could run over linebackers, and out run safeties. Go and shake hands with Keith, if you ever get the chance. This guy can not only palm a basketball, he can palm an exersize ball. The health issue that I brought up gets wasted here, because if it wern't for a "Hail-Mary" and a fluke broken foot in camp in 1985, Keith would have been only the second man to ever win 2 Heisman Trophies.

Robert Smith: Until Ted Ginn, the "fastest" football player that I have ever seen. From his freshman debut against Texas tech to the day he left here, Robert's "natural" physical ability was unparralled. Take away a guy named Chris Nelloms, who was arguably the greatest Track athlete ever in Ohio, and Robert wins countless state titles in the sprints. Forget about Nelloms, and you have one of the most intelligent players we've ever had here, who had one hell of a career in the NFL.

That's just my 2 cents.

Peace.
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Fantastic post. All I can add is that in terms of having the ideal measurables for a RB, I've seen few college backs like Eddie George. Size, height and speed all in one combination. Each of the backs that WW mentioned had incredible attributes in one or two areas -- Smith's speed, Archie's elusiveness, Byars' strength. Eddie had a balanced package that was truly rare and exceptional.

What made 13 an instant impact player is that he was very developed for a Freshman. He didn't need to put on weight, he already had good vision and instincts, and he had a very strong competitive streak. In terms of natural talent, I would actually say he was limited compared to most of those other guys. Mental issues aside, I don't think he would have been a great NFL back. A good one, possibly, but not on the level of Byars, Smith or George. Had MoC been able to stay in the league, I think that Pittman would ultimately have had the better pro career of the two.

On the topic of this thread, I think that Chris Wells has a far, far higher upside. He's the most talented back we've had here since Eddie.
 
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WoodyWorshiper;988925; said:
Robert Smith: Until Ted Ginn, the "fastest" football player that I have ever seen. From his freshman debut against Texas tech to the day he left here, Robert's "natural" physical ability was unparralled. Take away a guy named Chris Nelloms, who was arguably the greatest Track athlete ever in Ohio, and Robert wins countless state titles in the sprints. Forget about Nelloms, and you have one of the most intelligent players we've ever had here, who had one hell of a career in the NFL.

That's just my 2 cents.

Peace.
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joey galloway was faster and not sure if he finished his HISTORY DEGREE YET. He switched over to that a couple years ago and He never went to MED SCHOOL to become a DOCTOR like most announcers use to say causing fans to think that. I was in classes with him before, he went pro.
 
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Based on Beanie's performance against Michigan today I'd say this debate is over (IMHO) as far as regular seasons go.

Beanie has played hurt all season and put up nearly 1500 yards rushing. He will end up among the best ever to play at Ohio State and he'll put up career numbers, not one year numbers to prove it.

:oh:
 
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Beanie vs Clarrett...the showdown.

Let's just assume that Maurice was an upstanding member of society, not a complete moron, and played for more than one year. WHO WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE AS YOUR #1 TAILBACK. Beanie or Clarrett?? They both have power...Beanie has the speed, Mo had the vision...who would you choose?
 
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GoodLifeSean;1093747; said:
Based on Beanie's ability to suck it up and play with the pain, I'll take him. I feel like Clarett had the potential but not the toughness.
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Ever had a stinger? Very painful. Not necessarily disagreeing but when your whole arm is basically paralyzed it is tough to play. Much rather have a sprained or strained ankle. That being said... I'd still rather have Beanie. I love a RB that can't be arm tackled.
 
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